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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JSMC on February 01, 2010, 10:04:31 pm
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thinking of getitng something for certain jobs as it will be very handy what you recommend?
diy trolley or backpack.
tds here is 28ppm so basically fill at home and away i go. already have van mount
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For stand alone jobs the backpack is ideal, I use the big trolley for compact estates.
here are both of mine.
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=89649.0
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what works out cheaper? backpack or diy trolley
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i recomend the backpack, much cheaper than a trolley
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bes tplace to buy em
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between willamsons pumps, and redhatdiving on ebay, think they are now £120
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WcW about £105
Heres a pic of one of my Blue Peter jobs. My van had broke down, so i did the loal ones with this (about a mile away on the day)
The trolley cost me £20 +vat plus the cost of a few bungees... the rest you can figure out
(http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo356/bongoville/utf-8BSU1HMDAyMDIuanBn.jpg)
(http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo356/bongoville/utf-8BL01lZGlhIENhcmQvQmxhY2tCZXJye.jpg)
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between willamsons pumps, and redhatdiving on ebay, think they are now £120
Be careful of the redhatdiving one mate. I bought one last week. It's a shurflo imitation from China. Ok,I've had it 4 or 5 days and it aint broken yet BUT I am nervous about it. I've ordered a backup(or 2) from Bonbon pebbles(ebay) 2 delivered for £280, but they ARE shurflo's. I've been using him for about 4 years and i can't fault the guy or the product ;)
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jouks
williamson pumps shurflo is £147.
Is that real McCoy.
varitechs shurflo £235 :o
i have wcw back pack is good but no flow control, you can use hozle lock connector with valve control, but pants as doesn't relly slow flow as it just shut of pump rather than slow flow.
i belive shurlo has 4 speed controller.
only thing i don't like on shurflo doesn't have handle, wcw bkpk has built in handle, really like this.
Anything you can do to make a handle on shurflo as wouldn't wear on my back
cheers lee
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yes it is genuine, only thing is double check tank size, one is 18ltr other is 15ltr if its £147 for the 18 that is a good price, mine cost 2 years ago £250 :o i just made my own handle from web strabing using a plastic tube so as it turns with the hand,
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jouks
williamson pumps shurflo is £147.
Is that real McCoy.
varitechs shurflo £235 :o
i have wcw back pack is good but no flow control, you can use hozle lock connector with valve control, but pants as doesn't relly slow flow as it just shut of pump rather than slow flow.
i belive shurlo has 4 speed controller.
only thing i don't like on shurflo doesn't have handle, wcw bkpk has built in handle, really like this.
Anything you can do to make a handle on shurflo as wouldn't wear on my back
cheers lee
make a return for the pack so some of water goes directly
back to back pack rather than up your pole hose,i did this with
my shurflo when the pcb broke down for the second time
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williams is plus vat plus delivery. Takes the final price up quite a bit :(
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I don`t think Williamsons are stocking the Shurflo anymore. Or won`t be in the future. Some problem with the US suppliers.
But soon they will be selling a WCW one with a variable speed setting. At present the one they stock is very similar (if not the same) to WCW b`pack one with just one flow setting.
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thanks guys
g.griffin thats intresting news about copy of wcw bkpk with control flow ;)
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Lee, they are on the Williamsons website now but not in stock yet. Apart from the colour it looks identical to the WCW one.
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WcW about £105
Heres a pic of one of my Blue Peter jobs. My van had broke down, so i did the loal ones with this (about a mile away on the day)
The trolley cost me £20 +vat plus the cost of a few bungees... the rest you can figure out
(http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo356/bongoville/utf-8BSU1HMDAyMDIuanBn.jpg)
(http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo356/bongoville/utf-8BL01lZGlhIENhcmQvQmxhY2tCZXJye.jpg)
That looks good
How many houses do you get done per full backpack?
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thanks mate was just gonna say is this it?
http://www.williamson-shop.co.uk/wfp-bksc-1-backpack-sprayer-3272-p.asp
i think i might be having one of these in the next month or so.
thats my only gripe with wcw no flow control tried hozle-lock connector with tap on but don't
work.
nice find their ;)
is the flow controller that thing that looks like a dial on base.
many thanks lee
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I can get 2 x 3bed semis done with a full wcw backpack. Takes some practice to use such little water. I used to use two backpacks per 3 bed semi when I first started out. Its all about where you put the backpack.
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I can get 2 x 3bed semis done with a full wcw backpack. Takes some practice to use such little water. I used to use two backpacks per 3 bed semi when I first started out. Its all about where you put the backpack.
Do you do the whole house WFP?
I was thinking of doing bottoms trad and backpack for tops
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jouks
williamson pumps shurflo is £147.
Is that real McCoy.
varitechs shurflo £235 :o
i have wcw back pack is good but no flow control, you can use hozle lock connector with valve control, but pants as doesn't relly slow flow as it just shut of pump rather than slow flow.
i belive shurlo has 4 speed controller.
only thing i don't like on shurflo doesn't have handle, wcw bkpk has built in handle, really like this.
Anything you can do to make a handle on shurflo as wouldn't wear on my back
cheers lee
make a return for the pack so some of water goes directly
back to back pack rather than up your pole hose,i did this with
my shurflo when the pcb broke down for the second time
just cut the out going pipe, fit a Y joint and run 1 tail of the Y up the pole and the other tail fit a small tap valve and run it back into the tank, zip tie the pipe tight to each other and it does get caught on anything
open the tap a little to put a little back into the tank, thus the flow will slow down to the pole
job done
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thanks mate was just gonna say is this it?
http://www.williamson-shop.co.uk/wfp-bksc-1-backpack-sprayer-3272-p.asp
i think i might be having one of these in the next month or so.
thats my only gripe with wcw no flow control tried hozle-lock connector with tap on but don't
work.
nice find their ;)
is the flow controller that thing that looks like a dial on base.
many thanks lee
I don`t know if it`s the flow controller. If it is the one with the flow controller then they don`t stock them yet. They will have them in in 10-12 weeks I believe.
Currently, they only have the ones with one setting, like the one you have.
I`ll post on here if I hear when they get them in.
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that would be great G. Griffin :)
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craig21t,
that's intresting, i thought about adding a light dimmer switch, but don't think this would be upto the job would it?
also worries me when charging up backpack as don't want to set the house on fire :o
matt good idea ;) just worried it will look a bit messy, especially if i do it ;D
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I can get 2 x 3bed semis done with a full wcw backpack. Takes some practice to use such little water. I used to use two backpacks per 3 bed semi when I first started out. Its all about where you put the backpack.
Do you do the whole house WFP?
I was thinking of doing bottoms trad and backpack for tops
Yeah that's full houses. Being able to use the amount of water I do per house has come with experience. In my first 6 months all I used was the backpack until I could afford a van mount.
You get to know the houses on your round. What works and what doesn't. I found it helped having 20m of extra pole hose. That way you don't have to keep moving the backpack. Its about positioning it in the right place to get the most amount of windows.
Example... 3 bed semi... Windows at front, side and back. I would try to get the backpack sitting at the middle of the side I I had enough hose to reach round. That way you don't have to move the backpack. Failing that I would put it on the front/side corner and get them both done, then 1 move to the back.
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matt good idea ;) just worried it will look a bit messy, especially if i do it ;D
if you are concearned about that, slide some garden hose over the pipe to start, then slide it out of the way, then slide it back over the work you have done, it will hide the pipe doubled back on itself
though saying that, just use some mini zip ties and it will look fine
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thanks Matt. :)
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I fitted one of the maplin controllers to my surflow backpack when the PC board packed in bought a small plastic box to fit it and an on off switch total of £20 works a lot better can turn the flow up and down like a varistream
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Adixon.
is controller
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=30310&TabID=1&QV=Y
as craig posted.
I would like to do as you've done.
also where did you get plastic box? take it this is to keep switch from damp.
thanks lee
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yes thats the one the box was from maplins they sell all different sizes
I just unscrewed the lid take the numpty off the controller drilled a hole for the dial to go through and then screw the nut back on to the dial and push the plastic numpty back on drilled another hole to insert the on off switch that has two spades on the back
the controller comes with instructions on wiring but there is only four ports that you screw some wire into one positive to the switch one coming off the switch to connect to the battery one minus to the battery and then a pos and neg to the pump
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adixon
thanks for that will deffo be doing that soon.
that would be prob solved for wcw bkpk.
tahks again :) lee
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you might be able to fit the controller through the base of the backpack i dont know how much space is insde dont need much
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thanks
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controller in the box
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I did as Jeff said but fitted all the changes inside the box at the bottom only the flow control is visible on the outside of backpack. Under the yellow tank is a moulding nipple if you drill in the middle of this you can put the feed back onto this nipple and fasten with a clamp. I have found I use tie wires for all pipe connections works well and never a leak. What I do is heat the pipes with a cigarette lighter to make them flexible and force the piles over fittings or joints and the tie wire while the pipes still hot. Works very well and a cheap. To stop the tie wire slipping I add a little epoxy glue to the zip area of the tie wire.