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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ian Mason on January 28, 2010, 12:24:05 am
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Hi all,
The majority of you seem really helpful towards one & other. You offer great advice, & some much needed constructive critisism in places, lol.
However, I have noticed that 1 or 2 on here appear bitter towards others methods of cleaning?
I notice that some WFPers have a gripe against tradders for example, & I wondered if this was a kind of turf war location thing, or is it a price & accessibilty thing?
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Hi all,
The majority of you seem really helpful towards one & other. You offer great advice, & some much needed constructive critisism in places, lol.
However, I have noticed that 1 or 2 on here appear bitter towards others methods of cleaning?
I notice that some WFPers have a gripe against tradders for example, & I wondered if this was a kind of turf war location thing, or is it a price & accessibilty thing?
not at all it is just trad people cant afford wfp so they have a go at us who do the job correctly :P
(that should put the cat amounst the pigeons) :-X
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make yr own mind up most wfpers seem to
think trad guys r below em earn less dolelys etc
i think they forget most ov us started as trad guys no turf war
ere in wrexham its all ,mine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hi all,
The majority of you seem really helpful towards one & other. You offer great advice, & some much needed constructive critisism in places, lol.
However, I have noticed that 1 or 2 on here appear bitter towards others methods of cleaning?
I notice that some WFPers have a gripe against tradders for example, & I wondered if this was a kind of turf war location thing, or is it a price & accessibilty thing?
not at all it is just trad people cant afford wfp so they have a go at us who do the job correctly :P
(that should put the cat amounst the pigeons) :-X
so didnt you start as trad window washers ???? its comments like that
im on about smug prat
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make yr own mind up most wfpers seem to
think trad guys r below em earn less dolelys etc
i think they forget most ov us started as trad guys no turf war
ere in wrexham its all ,mine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
are you showing off now your wfp Lammy ;D
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not at all ,m8 25yrs in game every type ov wc ing done
was helped out by a fellow wc ere in wrexham who
showed me id bin shown wfp wrongly also il never
do all my work wfp as i quite njoy the trad
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Hi all,
The majority of you seem really helpful towards one & other. You offer great advice, & some much needed constructive critisism in places, lol.
However, I have noticed that 1 or 2 on here appear bitter towards others methods of cleaning?
I notice that some WFPers have a gripe against tradders for example, & I wondered if this was a kind of turf war location thing, or is it a price & accessibilty thing?
not at all it is just trad people cant afford wfp so they have a go at us who do the job correctly :P
(that should put the cat amounst the pigeons) :-X
so didnt you start as trad window washers ???? its comments like that
im on about smug prat
smug prat was a little harsh, I was joking as in having a laugh i'm not smug at all ;D
Yes I started off trad, I still do trad, we are all the same, wfp is safer, but thats another argument.. would I treat a trad guy any different not at all I do rib dazmond a little as he seems to like it ;D
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Hi all,
The majority of you seem really helpful towards one & other. You offer great advice, & some much needed constructive critisism in places, lol.
However, I have noticed that 1 or 2 on here appear bitter towards others methods of cleaning?
I notice that some WFPers have a gripe against tradders for example, & I wondered if this was a kind of turf war location thing, or is it a price & accessibilty thing?
not at all it is just trad people cant afford wfp so they have a go at us who do the job correctly :P
(that should put the cat amounst the pigeons) :-X
so didnt you start as trad window washers ???? its comments like that
im on about smug prat
smug prat was a little harsh, I was joking as in having a laugh i'm not smug at all ;D
Yes I started off trad, I still do trad, we are all the same, wfp is safer, but thats another argument.. would I treat a trad guy any different not at all I do rib dazmond a little as he seems to like it ;D
if was harsh i apologize but see where im coming from ???? y knock trad most wfp men struggle wiv sqeegee n applicator
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Hi all,
The majority of you seem really helpful towards one & other. You offer great advice, & some much needed constructive critisism in places, lol.
However, I have noticed that 1 or 2 on here appear bitter towards others methods of cleaning?
I notice that some WFPers have a gripe against tradders for example, & I wondered if this was a kind of turf war location thing, or is it a price & accessibilty thing?
not at all it is just trad people cant afford wfp so they have a go at us who do the job correctly :P
(that should put the cat amounst the pigeons) :-X
so didnt you start as trad window washers ???? its comments like that
im on about smug prat
smug prat was a little harsh, I was joking as in having a laugh i'm not smug at all ;D
Yes I started off trad, I still do trad, we are all the same, wfp is safer, but thats another argument.. would I treat a trad guy any different not at all I do rib dazmond a little as he seems to like it ;D
if was harsh i apologize but see where im coming from ???? y knock trad most wfp men struggle wiv sqeegee n applicator
I think a window cleaner should be able to use all the tools available, trad and wfp, you need both as they are tools of our trade.
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Hi again,
On the flipside, I have read 1 or 2 advising that WFP is the way forward, but then you wonder if they are really using the trad method?
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Hi again,
On the flipside, I have read 1 or 2 advising that WFP is the way forward, but then you wonder if they are really using the trad method?
I use both you will see pics on here if you want to have a look for them. I am also qualified in trad and wfp, next i'm going to learn english :)
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im not sayin all but some think wfp is the be all n end all
im also not sayin there aint sum guys still out there no insure n the like but not all trad men r horse riding cowboys deffinatly wfp as its place n will always av
the safety side speaks volumes alonebut trad will always av a place ask wfp newbies to clean insides ;D ;D ;D
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Hi again,
On the flipside, I have read 1 or 2 advising that WFP is the way forward, but then you wonder if they are really using the trad method?
I use both you will see pics on here if you want to have a look for them. I am also qualified in trad and wfp, next i'm going to learn english :)
me 2 was just reading ,my last post ;D
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Hi again,
On the flipside, I have read 1 or 2 advising that WFP is the way forward, but then you wonder if they are really using the trad method?
Some can`t use a wfp and some can`t trad but they are both very useful.
Matt, a lot of ignorant people are opinionated.
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Hi again,
On the flipside, I have read 1 or 2 advising that WFP is the way forward, but then you wonder if they are really using the trad method?
Some can`t use a wfp and some can`t trad but they are both very useful.
Matt, a lot of ignorant people are opinionated.
thats true ;D
Matt doint let that guy wind you up. ;) aint worth the stress
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Hi again,
On the flipside, I have read 1 or 2 advising that WFP is the way forward, but then you wonder if they are really using the trad method?
Some can`t use a wfp and some can`t trad but they are both very useful.
Matt, a lot of ignorant people are opinionated.
100 per cent right i,m finding out wfp is not as easy as it looks if i had hair id
b pulling it out sum gud results sum not so gud pratice makes perfect 8)
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Hi again,
On the flipside, I have read 1 or 2 advising that WFP is the way forward, but then you wonder if they are really using the trad method?
Some can`t use a wfp and some can`t trad but they are both very useful.
Matt, a lot of ignorant people are opinionated.
100 per cent right i,m finding out wfp is not as easy as it looks if i had hair id
b pulling it out sum gud results sum not so gud pratice makes perfect 8)
you wait in six month the weight starts pilling on, wfp'er keep that hush hush
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lol ope not im too big now as i said if was harsh i apologize
n ,mean that im not a wind up or know it all know nothing just
a wc trying his best but avin wfp is an other extension to my business
thing with me is i av a gud cross section of wc friends with the
knowledge to help over come ma short coming with wfp even after 25yrs
im still learning i also take critism i strive to learn sum thing new every day
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lol ope not im too big now as i said if was harsh i apologize
n ,mean that im not a wind up or know it all know nothing just
a wc trying his best but avin wfp is an other extension to my business
thing with me is i av a gud cross section of wc friends with the
knowledge to help over come ma short coming with wfp even after 25yrs
im still learning i also take critism i strive to learn sum thing new every day
Same as I love to learn, as never ending ;D
Forget about >:( calling me a smug prat I have forgotten :-X about it :o ::) ;D
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no worries hey i,m back on trad in ,morning nice lil office block ov iron
framed slats to do ;D ;D pleasure was all mine spk soon 8)
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theres been a few trad windys i know of who slated me about getting a wfp."its crap!" "its too bloody expensive!" "it does a crap job!"
IM STILL GETTING ONE TO TRY IT OUT FOR MYSELF! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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theres been a few trad windys i know of who slated me about getting a wfp."its crap!" "its too bloody expensive!" "it does a crap job!"
IM STILL GETTING ONE TO TRY IT OUT FOR MYSELF! ;D ;D ;D ;D
had one like that someone i have known for years he has now gone wfp and i helped him out with a few probs he had and showed him how to go on , there is only me and 2 other guys wfp in our area apart from big coommercial firms from outside area
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I am a window cleaner. I believe that if you want to take up window cleaning as a profession the very first thing you should do is learn the squeegee.
If you then ignore the advantages of wfp then you are a silly billy.
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theres been a few trad windys i know of who slated me about getting a wfp."its crap!" "its too bloody expensive!" "it does a crap job!"
IM STILL GETTING ONE TO TRY IT OUT FOR MYSELF! ;D ;D ;D ;D
i said same m8 was shown wrongly aby a firm fr widnes
bin trad 25yrs now got a set up fr a m8 whos all wfp im finding it hard lol
u get one gud for sum windows but im still tradding let ,me no ow
u get on ,m8
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i want to know how u get on lammy!i wont be getting a system for a while as im saving up first and im going straight for a ford connect with a 400lt tank and carbon fibre SLX pole. no messing!
be good to start a thread LAMMYS FIRST MONTH WFP!
and give us trad windys a weekly update how your getting on! ;) ;)
best wishes
dazmond
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i want to know how u get on lammy!i wont be getting a system for a while as im saving up first and im going straight for a ford connect with a 400lt tank and carbon fibre SLX pole. no messing!
be good to start a thread LAMMYS FIRST MONTH WFP!
and give us trad windys a weekly update how your getting on! ;) ;)
best wishes
dazmond
;D as iv said was helped out by a m8 who was getting a better
set up so brought his v cheap im not daft i see the advantages ov wfp
but its first cleans m8 headache city ,might be too critical ov my self
but cant get used to leaving windows wet ;D ;D i do like it on leads though ;D ;D
does excellent job on frames will let u no its tirering though remember ow
you ached wen u first started windows like that but worse ;D ;D ;D ;D
though i,m sleeping better 2 8) oh yes ,makes yr face sting too
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training is the key to good wfp ing , anyone wants to spend a day with me for £100 ill teach them all they need to know -- lammy will back me up , im a good teacher ...
Im the guy that sold him his gear - i dont even get the old tools out ever - everything gets poled , never get any complaints .
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training is the key to good wfp ing , anyone wants to spend a day with me for £100 ill teach them all they need to know -- lammy will back me up , im a good teacher ...
Im the guy that sold him his gear - i dont even get the old tools out ever - everything gets poled , never get any complaints .
yes il agree wiv john excellent advice patient and very helpful glad
to call him a friend
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I use both methods,some windows are crap WFP and are better trad,it's swings and roundabouts,thats why I use both methods of cleaning ;)
I think trad is an art,alot of newbies go straight for the pole method and when asked to do a internal clean have'nt got a clue where to start,70% of my work is WFP but will never hang up the mop and blade :)
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I use both methods,some windows are crap WFP and are better trad,it's swings and roundabouts,thats why I use both methods of cleaning ;)
I think trad is an art,alot of newbies go straight for the pole method and when asked to do a internal clean have'nt got a clue where to start,70% of my work is WFP but will never hang up the mop and blade :)
exceptional reply slash n dats wot im going to do
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Shop fronts,bungallows can be done just as quick trade than it is WFP and thats without the Wagtail,I once seen a guy doing a shop front in Leatherhead's high street,the window was about 6 x 8 feet,I sat eating my sandwich from Greggs bakery and timed him pulling up and packing up,by the time this guy got his hose reel out etc. the window could be done 10 times over trad way,ah well ,he obviously did'nt know how to use a mop and blade ;D ;D ;)
I think it's essential to use trad as well as WFP ;)
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If you know how to use a bog brush you should have no problem with wfp. :D
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not at all ,m8 25yrs in game every type ov wc ing done
was helped out by a fellow wc ere in wrexham who
showed me id bin shown wfp wrongly also il never
do all my work wfp as i quite njoy the trad
if you dont mind me asking lammy, what were you doing wrong with the wfp?
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WINDOW CLEANING IS JUST A WAY OF TURNING WATER INTO MONEY
How you choose to do it is up to you. It makes no difference to me. I prefer to use WFP, what others do is their business.
Why some people get so worked up about it is beyond me. However the safety issued is valid IMO. I am not keen on leaving the occasional head shaped dent in people's patios
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not at all ,m8 25yrs in game every type ov wc ing done
was helped out by a fellow wc ere in wrexham who
showed me id bin shown wfp wrongly also il never
do all my work wfp as i quite njoy the trad
if you dont mind me asking lammy, what were you doing wrong with the wfp?
worked 4 a firm fr widnes who used to jus fil their tank via di vessel instead of tank into di via pump etc still find it hard to get perfect results esp 1st cleans also cant get used to leaving them wet lol
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not at all ,m8 25yrs in game every type ov wc ing done
was helped out by a fellow wc ere in wrexham who
showed me id bin shown wfp wrongly also il never
do all my work wfp as i quite njoy the trad
if you dont mind me asking lammy, what were you doing wrong with the wfp?
worked 4 a firm fr widnes who used to jus fil their tank via di vessel instead of tank into di via pump etc still find it hard to get perfect results esp 1st cleans also cant get used to leaving them wet lol
What is wrong with filling tank via di ?
IMO tank di pump is wrong, only water in my tank is 000 or I would be checking my tds meter all the time.
I have no di at all in my vans and works very well :-\
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i agree too ewan gud point as iv said jus want to get proffient
wiv wfp first learn fr my mistakes etc anything bigger than say yr
average largeish house id take along fully expeirenced wfp er
gain expeirence that way
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For me it's not a trad or WFP issue, both can do a good job.
It is very much a ladders and no ladders issue, and getting the job done a bit quicker.
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I am a window cleaner. I believe that if you want to take up window cleaning as a profession the very first thing you should do is learn the squeegee.
If you then ignore the advantages of wfp then you are a silly billy.
I think this comment says it all. You need to have both skills.
Both trad and wfp are tools you have to use them correctly or you will do a poor job
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dis an other thing freezing ere n snow in wrexham jus ad to take system out
wrap pump water all inside van aaaarrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh