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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: andyatkinson on January 12, 2010, 06:50:07 pm

Title: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: andyatkinson on January 12, 2010, 06:50:07 pm
I am pretty much all wfp and before that have 8 years experience trad (so prob should know the answer to this!) been doin bit of trad today, insides and when heating is on you can see all the semi circles and sharp diaganol lines left by squeegee, my technique is spot on never leave anything on the glass but its only when heating is on, have a house i do inside once a month and always have new rubber and it still shows up!
any ideas please??
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: Window Washers on January 12, 2010, 06:52:16 pm
I am pretty much all wfp and before that have 8 years experience trad (so prob should know the answer to this!) been doin bit of trad today, insides and when heating is on you can see all the semi circles and sharp diaganol lines left by squeegee, my technique is spot on never leave anything on the glass but its only when heating is on, have a house i do inside once a month and always have new rubber and it still shows up!
any ideas please??
use a spray bottle with pure water only in it ;)

spray on water clean applicator scrub window blade off, still have problems scrum then spray pure on glass and blade off leave no fairy behind this way  ;D
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: Frankybadboy on January 12, 2010, 06:52:39 pm
whats it like when i dried out.
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: andyatkinson on January 12, 2010, 07:09:19 pm
thanks both, the one i do monthly notices it and has mentioned twice, as they must stay when dry, is it fairy residue ian? this has puzzled me for yonks
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: Nathanael Jones on January 12, 2010, 07:25:00 pm
Fairy does leave a residue which shows up badly if there is condensation. Try GG3 (or even W5 from Lidl) and you'll notice a huge difference.
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: andyatkinson on January 12, 2010, 07:42:17 pm
brilliant thanks, i have to do tommorow and no lidl local, what if i buy a really crap supermarket cheapest liquid and use only a little bit?
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: gewindows on January 12, 2010, 07:44:39 pm
Id also suggest GG3 or GG4 depending on what water you have (hard or soft).

Where you are Andy I think you get away with soft. Right? so GG3 would do the biz.

Also are they or any others in the house smokers?

I reckon humidity can affect the effectiveness of how good a job is done trad. I used to always struggle on a house that was located under a lot of pine trees but only when there was moisture in the air (foggy, misty days or scotch misty) Otherwise it was as easy as any other but on those days a real real struggle for no apparent reason.

Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: andyatkinson on January 12, 2010, 07:48:19 pm
good lord the science of window cleaning, ross on wye- semi soft a little bit hard ;D,
and yes a smoker forgot that crucial bit
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: gewindows on January 12, 2010, 07:49:31 pm
Do YOU notice it when you go back the next time but it seems okay on the day?
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: cleewindows on January 12, 2010, 07:52:41 pm
gg4 or squeegee off!
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: andyatkinson on January 12, 2010, 07:52:41 pm
i thought she was mental and was about to point this out to her and then the sun shone and i was amazed diagonal lines and semi circles everywhere!
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: jonnyald on January 12, 2010, 07:58:56 pm
i too think lidls w5 is the very best . (but not the concentrated w5 ),    best is the biggerbottles ordinary w5 ,the weak thin  stuff


 it might pay you to give a quick polish with a dry scrim over the whole glass, thatll catch any  streaks and  only add 5 seconds to a window tops
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: gewindows on January 12, 2010, 07:59:56 pm
Its the smoke definately Andy.

Not a great deal you can do about it. Give them a double mop and squeegee off if you want but it leaves (I think) something like a static charge on the glass which attracts the the grime.

Its the way of the world.

I used to do an old birds insides (ooer missus) and she smoked. Her son lived with her. When she was alive you'd go to clean and could see the lines where your squeegee had been on the previous visit on the inside patio doors.

Now she died and her son still has the patio doors insides done but he doesnt smoke. No lines.
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: G Griffin on January 12, 2010, 08:03:09 pm
I was going to ask if they smoke. They can be a nightmare  :-\.  
 I`d tell them to stop smoking or pointing the streaks out  ;D.
  Look what it does to fingers, teeth etc.
  Sorry can`t be more help.
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: gewindows on January 12, 2010, 08:06:55 pm
That'll be another £30 for the trolley mate.


NEXT!

 
 ;)
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: andyatkinson on January 12, 2010, 08:10:29 pm
i cant believe im buying a trolley off paul merton in a wetsuit, ive been telling everyone! no famous friends! ;)
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: andyatkinson on January 12, 2010, 08:11:15 pm
thanks all for your replies
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: gewindows on January 12, 2010, 08:28:17 pm
i cant believe im buying a trolley off paul merton in a wetsuit, ive been telling everyone! no famous friends! ;)

You can have my autograph  ;)
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: Londoner on January 12, 2010, 09:37:00 pm
i too think lidls w5 is the very best . (but not the concentrated w5 ),    best is the biggerbottles ordinary w5 ,the weak thin  stuff


 it might pay you to give a quick polish with a dry scrim over the whole glass, thatll catch any  streaks and  only add 5 seconds to a window tops

Don't use a dry scrim it will leave fibres on the glass, use a clean scrim but just dampen it slightly with pure water.
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: Rob.Hall on January 12, 2010, 09:54:43 pm
Try this.

GG3 or 4 depending on hard/soft water mixed with squegy off.

Go over window with applicator then blade off.

Do same again but this time make sure you give the blade a quick clean before useing again.

I had a problem with a smokers windows and found that the yellow residue was bonding to the rubber so a quick dunk in the bucket and a wipe off before blading the window the second time worked wonders.
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: dazmond on January 13, 2010, 11:12:17 pm
itll be the smoking thats the problem.the tar sticks horribly to the glass!i used to do a pub insides and they were a nightmare to clean in full glare of the sun.but if we are bein honest theres usually the odd faint line or smudge on the outsides when we ve cleaned them.trad is not perfect just as wfp isnt either! ::)but you would probably get better results with a spray detergent and microfibre fot the insides.

i dont do any insides if i can help it!the price usually puts them off as i usually charge double or half again as i find them more hassle!

regards

dazmond
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: d.ward on January 13, 2010, 11:22:28 pm
did you work today daz?
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: G Griffin on January 13, 2010, 11:31:56 pm
I would avoid inside cleans for smokers. Either that or they accept a less than perfect job. I mean, look how it stains other things.
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: jonnyald on January 13, 2010, 11:38:10 pm
read somewhere that the yellowy f*g goop is REALLY TOXIC . i might invest in some latex gloves ,then it could help justify a higher price- specialist


hey why is the word fAg       illegal on here . f/ag
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: G Griffin on January 13, 2010, 11:45:02 pm
read somewhere that the yellowy f*g goop is REALLY TOXIC . i might invest in some latex gloves ,then it could help justify a higher price- specialist


hey why is the word f*g       illegal on here . f/ag

  Some people refer to homosexuals as f*gs
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: Londoner on January 14, 2010, 07:09:07 am
read somewhere that the yellowy f*g goop is REALLY TOXIC . i might invest in some latex gloves ,then it could help justify a higher price- specialist


hey why is the word f*g       illegal on here . f/ag

  Some people refer to homosexuals as f*gs
Is that because people put them in their mouth and suck?
Title: Re: One for the Trad Boys
Post by: Nathanael Jones on January 14, 2010, 07:55:10 am
If its smoke thats the problem, add a couple of splashes of household ammonia to your water,.. it cuts through the nicotine staining much better. It is harsh on your skin though, so don't be tempted to use it on every job!