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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Gavin Reardon on June 17, 2005, 08:45:37 pm
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Hi All
I have just got home form the show, and it was really good anyone looking to do allergy work its a must the seminars were really helpful and loads to do and see
Regards Gavin
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Any pictures from the show ???
Was it very busy on the stand?
Answer fast Gavin.....................
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Is it darn sarf ageen??
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Olympia in Kensington.
Hoping to pop in on Sunday, before i get taken out for pub lunch on fathers day. ;D
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Was Derren Brown there,to assist the Unbelievers?
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If i wanted to li .............SORRY MIKE :-X
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Oooooo aye all kids ell bi rarnd wint the??
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Hi All
Sorry ive been in town all night ;D
The show was that busy I needed a few beers after ???
The Allerg-STOP stand is very good and doing a great job of telling people about why they should get there carpets and upholstery cleaned.
I went to lots or the seminars and I picked up lots of useful ideas, and things which will help me sell Allergy control.
Regards Gavin
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Gavin,
I understood every word of that. Maybe you should get tanked up first thing in the morning and more people will understand what you are saying ;D
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Was at the show today (Saturday) and the guys were very busy.
We all handed out lots of the leaflets and people were very interested.
To ALL the knockers... Please stay away.
Big Regards Kevin
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Bet you wouldn't say that to our Lasses Knockers :o :o :o ::) ::) ::) :o :o :o
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Hello KeVin. Are you a member of allerg stop yet?
NIck
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Hey Tricky Nicky
Your new pic looks just like your old one.
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Hi All
I forgot to say one thing that did get on nerves at the show, and that was Asthma Uk, in one of there seminars they were telling people to remove all rugs, rip up all there carpets and put hard floors down, and also take down curtains and put up blinds >:( :(
How old is this info???
Are they trying to put us out of a job!!
Regards Gavin
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Gavin
Logic should tell you why these people are saying these things 8) 8) 8)
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John
Well it does not ??? ???
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Keep thinking why, if you do not come up with the answer within 7 days I'll tell you.
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John
I don't give a **** ;)
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Then don't worry about it.
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John
Thanks for call, I understand what your mean but like I said thats four years ago! and things should have moved on by now, shame it has not!!
SHAME ON ASTHMA UK :( >:( :o ???
Regards Gavin ;)
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Wot yer got t remember us lads upt north have all us Pidgeon Dust to contend wi as well as them ther mites S***.
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We could all ask Asthma UK, WHY they are telling people this.
See their web site for contacts.
Perhaps we already know the answer though!
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Hi Guys,
I've had a quick look at the Asthma UK website which seems to be balanced and not promoting anything in particular , although I may have missed something ;)
Where it says remove carpets , it also says treat soft furnishings with an acaricide , which is defined as a chemical which kills mites.
I know Allergstop does not actually kill the mites but is it classed as an acaricide.
Presumably Promite is an acaricide.
Can anyone enlighten me?
Cheers,
Doug
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All you A-Stop boys should print this off and go and give it to Asthma UK. That'll show 'em.
www.healthyflooring.net (http://www.healthyflooring.net)
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Nice One Gary.
You never sent a reply to my PM message to your G/F !!
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Check my website out interesting video about carpets takes a long time to load but worth it.
http://www.freewebs.com/allerg-stop/index.htm
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Wait to see Asthma UK next time round............they have been enlightened at the show :o
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Hi Doug,
Allerg-Stop mattress spray & carpet / upholstery cleaner kill the mites with long term effect plus disinfects the the cleaned surfaces
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The comments from Derek Walker stimulated my memory
Attended a meeting several years ago where we were introduced to an amazing product, which kills d/m, and prevents reinfestation by remaining in the fabric, or on the surface, where newly laid eggs are penetrated and killed
I think the product also killed all bacteria.
Unfortunately,the UK licence changed hands and the new owner was only interested in selling to distributors , prepared to make a large investment.
r m
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Derek,
I didn't thing AS actually killed the mites, does'nt it modify the mite droppings?
Cheers,
Doug
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Doug
The sole killing of the mites is never sufficient to efficiently combat the allergy-release. Only Allerg-STOP® ensures the elimination* of mite excrement. At the same time additives kill the mites with long-term effect and actively sanitising.
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Is this Alerg Stop product the only product available in the Uk that elimates everything.
What other products are acaricides that are available.
Remember probably still is available seeing a dust mite spray in Tescos think it was about £15
Only seemed to protect for two weeks.
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Hi Doug
Allerg-Stop breaks down the protein structures which cause the allergic reaction, so that the human body no longer regards it as an enemy. At the same time it kills the mites and disinfects the surface above MRSA level.
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To the best of my knowledge, it's the enzyme within the d /m's digestive system that actually causes the problem.
So......
Kill the dustmites, which I know Promite will do, possibly others, also, but I have no first hand knowledge of this,
Thoroughly clean with your personal choice of product.
Apply an acaricide type product which is known to remain active for 6-12 months
Advise the client about the importance of air flow throughout the house..........
Advise client about the importance of proper and regular vacuuming, ideally with water filtration, which is far superior to any dry fotm of filtration and is not expensive. .....An opportunity to sell an ethical and genuine, health improvement product.
Advise client about regular professional cleaning to maintain their healthier environment.
OK let the arrows fly...........but, that is the reality unless you know better.
this is the approach I take and probably quite a few others, except for water filtration, which some of you might have no knowledge of and out of respect for the Host I won't suggest any particular supplier, but there is a machine made for a British supplier, to their spec' which you can buy for less than two hundred pounds
Bye
r m
Apply a
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I thought there was a machine called Polti which has water filteration.
But I only noticed it on The Allergy Show Website the other day and have no idea of cost.
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Therapist,
If,as you suggest, the enzyme in the digestive sytem is the cause of allergens.............killing the mite is not the end of it.!!
People have a reaction to the effects from mite droppings. ............that has been through the system and accounts for more mass than the mites themselves.
If you have a product that can break down the proteins from mite and feaces, then you are on to a winner..............OH, sorry that product is the one i use ::)
Best of luck with your chosen product ........and may meet on an A/S course in the near future. :-X
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http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~aair/mites.htm
Interesting website if you have a look around.
Mark
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There are many products around which kill dust mites, Sebo even do one of their own. One of the best ways to kill them is direct sunlight or washing at over 60 degrees. This might not get rid of the excrement, but a dead dustmite don't poo much.
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The droppings are obviously a direct product resulting from enzymatic action within the gut of the dustmite
By suggesting its the droppings that cause the problem is not wide of the mark, as the droppings will obviously contain traces of enzymes.
It changes nothing in terms of the basics.
POOR VENTILATION / POOR CLEANING /equates to infestation
Good ventilation / Effective cleaning equates to a healthier ( for humans ) environment.
Ian
there is an excellent commercial quality water filtration vac available from Dennis Rawlins which really does what another manufacturer claims, ( full suction all of the time ) but doesn't.
Chris S
Whether it's the enzymes , or the dropping, or the legs, they simply require removal
That's the easy bit, we are after all cleaners
Must go
have a nice day
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Therapist,
If only it were as simple as REMOVAL.
Some areas such as mattresses require cleaning so as not to water mark or damage and total removal would prove difficult.
The problem needs to be addressed by breaking it down.
I remember my kids coming home with letter from school about nits, cannot simply be washed out. They needed treating first to kill and eggs manually removed :o
If only things were so simple ;)
ps. Must go as i have 3 orders to send out for a certain product :-X
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OK Chris
I think we agree, that effective cleaning is essential and avoiding marking,or damaging , is pretty important
So, another option..........
I have a powerfull, industrial vacuum, with water filtration, which traps everything that it sucks up.
My machine has Hot Solvent capability which is great for Mattresses / Curtains / Rugs.......
If I can then treat these items, after cleaning with something that will kill any bugs which I might have missed and.........protect the items against spills and.........remain active for 12 months or more, to kill emerging bugs.
Oh, nearly forgot........advise my client about the importance of 'airing' the house, vacuuming the carpets, mattresses, drapes regularly and calling me out every six months for a maintenance clean.
Am I not giving a fabulous service which will promote heathier living and control the cause and the triggers which cause Asthma and Airborne Allergies, because this is what I do and have been doing for several years.
r m
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You are ;D
Hopefully your marvelous service will include a spray for the customers use, to continue the fight against airborne allergens.
Seems we may be on the same side after all ;)
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its strange for me to stay but i have heard reports from a customer who says its good ron
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Ron,
What you are saying is true as far as dust mites are concerned
Airing the house would not be any use for someone who suffers from hayfever / pollen, they would normally be advised to keep their windows closed., especially in the summer months.
Also as a matter of interest, a survey showed that even people who did not have pets in their house, still had pet allergens in their carpets
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I don't intend to be a party to pettyness, so this is my final comment on this thread.
I have already stated the ' tried and tested ' method, ie.......plenty of air flowing through the building.
Ref' your comments about the spray to combat airborne allergens. Read the above paragraph and consider, what results from the daily use of a water filtration vacuum.
r m
Derek
Think you're confusing Rob with Ron. I'm the former and I'm very aware of the problems caused by allergens having witnessed my father suffer for years and my brother die at 34 from an Asthma attack, which, incidentally, was brought on by a build up of stress, following a confrontation at work.
R M
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im ron therapist and you have knowledge that i dont ron
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To Doug and Therapist, why don't you stop query the latest gospel,why not join and become an evangalical convert for the Allergy cause?The benefits are great,anyone with a snotty nose, during the pollen season,is now your repeat customer.
BTW there is no need to have a fancy medical qualifacation,you wanna make money,a sales seminar and good looking stickers on your van will suffice.
To all yous with the chip on the shoulder.......knock knock.
S Stirrer.
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Cleanmac,
This has become a good thread because of reasoned debate.
People are far more likely to be convinced by this than by Ya Boo type comments.
You will probably find a lot of CC's following the AS debate with interest.
Cheers,
Doug
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I know you're Ron,Ron.. and I make no claims to having greater knowledge than anyone else.
It's what we do with the knowledge, we have that's important.
I could introduce another method of bug control, into the thread, but I'm not attempting to knock any particular product. Niether am I attempting to endorse any particular product.
Yes I've mentioned a couple of products which I use, with success, allied to lifestyle changes.
There are other causes of Asthma and Allergies than what's in the air and yes I'm aware that by controlling, or partially controlling air quality some people will benefit.
I am also very aware of the business opportunity for some, through taking on and promoting healthy home type products. There's nothing new in that and I could be accused of doing the same with water filtration.
What a forum like this should be used for, is the discussion of c /c's experiences and discoveries.
We should always be open to new ideas, methods,opportunities, but we don't have to ram them down other peoples throats.
If you do, you will find resistence and argument and you might lose.
HAPPY DAYS
Rob m...........( not Ron )
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Rob
The B & N are next to each other on the key board, it was a slip of the key stroke.
What you are saying is correct, there are many triggers for allergies and as you have stated stress is one of them. I was speaking to a client today who has a stress related allergic reaction. He has just been through a court case and various other family difficulties, which has brought on asthma attacks. At all other times he is okay.
I am only interested in reasoned debate.
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Evening Derek
Hope that's what I contribute to
Robbbbbbb M