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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: pingu on January 09, 2010, 05:14:03 pm

Title: IBC Stand..
Post by: pingu on January 09, 2010, 05:14:03 pm
I am planning to build a stand for 2x1000 L IBC's to be raised off the ground by 5ft....

Now I would like to build this out of wood...so anyone what would be the best deisgn to safely hold that weight?

I really do not have any clue as to how to achieve this safely ..so any guru's out there that can help?

Thanks in advance Dave.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: joe.b on January 09, 2010, 05:19:52 pm
how about a couple of pallets stacked, you can get them in wood or plastic
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: pingu on January 09, 2010, 05:20:47 pm
I really want to raise them 5ft from ground level...hope this helps...thanks Dave.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 05:29:55 pm
remember if raising them high make sure they are well secure. I have saw full IBC's of chemicals fall over and they make some mess. Try and buy some old pallet racking online. These are very strong and sturdy

http://www.abcracking.com/pages/palletracking.html

this is what you want and get some timber to go across it. Normally nothing goes across it at all and it's fine
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Post by: P @ F on January 09, 2010, 05:30:47 pm
2 Forklift trucks would be a winner

Rich P @ F
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Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 05:34:23 pm
visit that sites ebay shop and go onto the 2nd page you will get something. They do deliver just read further down. Basically you need 4 legs and 4 beams to make a stand i reckon. Easy to assemble. I'm sure the dexion stuff all just clips together. Anchor it to the ground using anchor bolts. Easy peasy
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: pingu on January 09, 2010, 05:37:25 pm
Trouble is that I am in The Netherlands and despite this not being that far the U.K shipping rates ar horrendous.

Would anyone now how to build a stand to carry this load safely?

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 05:39:14 pm
search online for them you will get it no bother. Either that or visit a warehouse asking where you can buy some 2nd hand shelving. Loads of places sell it
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 05:41:54 pm
http://www.bayequipmentco.com/Pallet_Racks.html

Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: Ian W on January 09, 2010, 05:45:25 pm
Considering they will weigh a tonne each when full, I am not sure whether I would want to use wood.

Why not ask your ibc supplier if they have any suitable racks? It might be a safer proposition.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: pingu on January 09, 2010, 05:46:55 pm
Trouble is that I am in The Netherlands and the shipping rates are horrendous.

Would anyone now how to build a stand to carry this load safely?

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 05:47:53 pm
remember 1 liter of water = 1kg.

DO NOT USE WOOD
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: michael papworth on January 09, 2010, 05:47:59 pm
You're talking about a weight of over two tons being held up five feet off the ground. That's about the weight of a Land Rover.

I'm very much with JSMC here. Personally, I wouldn't recommend any sort of home-build for that sort of weight.

You could consider three brick-built pylons with a backing wall. Look like an E in plan view.
(http://www.educoach.org.uk/wall.gif)

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Post by: BDCS on January 09, 2010, 05:48:58 pm
A stack of pallets would be best
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Post by: matt on January 09, 2010, 05:49:14 pm
4 " fence posts as uprights

6 X 2 " along the top edge and bottom edge all around

then a X of 6 X 2" from top to bottom corners on each side ( this will be the bracing to stop is falling over )

i have done a highly technical drawing in paint ( i really should get a CAD program  ;D )

http://jump.fm/JDFGF


Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 05:52:44 pm
buyt that racking which i suggested. this is what is used in warehouses all over the world. It also can take a good load on them I'm sure each rack can take 2500kg  on the dexion racking. I had a warehouse with checmicals all stored on that racking which i was in charge of. Only problems i had was forklifts hitting racking now and then but the racking is very strong. We had wood across ours also 2 inch thick timbers as some of the driver found it hard to balance it out without the wood
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 05:53:58 pm
You're talking about a weight of over two tons being held up five feet off the ground. That's about the weight of a Land Rover.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend a home-build for that sort of weight.

You could consider three brick-built pylons with a backing wall. Look like an E in plan view.
(http://www.educoach.org.uk/wall.gif)



yeah we built a large bund but the front was clsed off also and we used precon blocks for it.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: matt on January 09, 2010, 05:54:04 pm
oh and do that for each IBC, , not put 2 on it
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Post by: matt on January 09, 2010, 05:56:33 pm
oh and before any1 starts saying the wood way wouldnt work

i built the same design for 2 fuel tanks that held 1000 L each ( but they were metal ) and they are still up 15 years on

Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: pingu on January 09, 2010, 05:58:49 pm
Thanks Matt....and for all the other answers... ;D
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 05:59:14 pm
racking be best. easy to assemble and also can be moved easily. Timber once built thats it basically.

get the racking you know it makes sense
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: matt on January 09, 2010, 06:07:25 pm
racking be best. easy to assemble and also can be moved easily. Timber once built thats it basically.

get the racking you know it makes sense


oh dont get me wrong, the metal racking on piers are the better bet, but wood can work

you could fit "shiplap" or "T&G" board around it all and have a shed


oh and i forget to add, fix it all together with galv bolts with large washers

Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: pingu on January 09, 2010, 06:34:23 pm
Just a quickie are ibc's designed so that they can be stacked when full...sorry if this is a silly question.

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: JSMC on January 09, 2010, 06:38:25 pm
Just a quickie are ibc's designed so that they can be stacked when full...sorry if this is a silly question.

Cheers
Dave.

yeah you can stack ibc's but only go with one on top i'd say
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: matt on January 09, 2010, 06:46:09 pm
you can buy IBC's that come in a metal frame, these stack easy enough

AND

might be cheaper to buy 4 of them, as the wood will be pricey, you can even cut a hole as a door in the bottom 1 to store stuff in
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: ian1972 on January 09, 2010, 06:46:52 pm
i think it b better to use breeze block easy to lay and strong
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Post by: Ian W on January 09, 2010, 08:13:08 pm
The ibc's we use aren't designed to be stacked when full. Hazardous practice IMO.
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Post by: traps7 on January 09, 2010, 09:08:20 pm
Or make some shuttering and fill with concrete if you not very good at blockwork. Might have to do it in a few stages though.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: tacky on January 09, 2010, 10:25:12 pm
concete blocks laid flat .( dry lay them if u want to ) then buid to height req ,when u lay them flat dont forget to bond them .dont put one block same way as one below it if u know what i mean.
Title: Re: IBC Stand..
Post by: jeff1 on January 10, 2010, 12:58:08 am
Trouble is that I am in The Netherlands and despite this not being that far the U.K shipping rates ar horrendous.

Would anyone now how to build a stand to carry this load safely?

Cheers
Dave.

Go to a fabricator and have a simple one knocked up, let them know what weight is involved and it shouldn't cost you a fortune either.
The frame work should incude a strong base for the tank to sit on the base can be made from some strong timbers fitted to the steel frame.