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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: s.w.c on December 23, 2009, 06:11:42 pm
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for anyone wanting to make a cheap modular pole check these out, the largest 12.5m should make a good height. and cheap if you look closely at there prices, copare 11m price to the gangster poles.
http://www.tacklesaver.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000002.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww.tacklesaver.co.uk%2facatalog%2fspecialoffers.html&WD=signal&PN=copy_of_Signal_Poles.html%23a1_211129#a1_211129
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i thought the first response would be from a tight arse welsh git, an i was right taffy is the winner,
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nah mate, you should be different and buy a SLX, stand out from the crowd ::) ::) ::)
good find though , nice price for the 11 M
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nah mate, you should be different and buy a SLX, stand out from the crowd ::) ::) ::)
good find though , nice price for the 11 M
you cant beat Matt on cheap, hes the master ::) :-*
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i have had the mk11 slx for some time.
i just like playing around with modulars and i thought there cheap to mess about with.
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How many sections do you have to take off the top to be able to get a goosneck on ? And what sort of length will that give ?
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How many sections do you have to take off the top to be able to get a goosneck on ? And what sort of length will that give ?
its normally around 3 ( ish )
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nah mate, you should be different and buy a SLX, stand out from the crowd ::) ::) ::)
good find though , nice price for the 11 M
you cant beat Matt on cheap, hes the master ::) :-*
the thing is, and it seems hard for people to understand
its not that they are cheap, ( afterall i used a unger ali pole for years and it would last another 5 years )
its the lightness ( i had a neck injury and after i started using the lighter pole, it stopped inside a few days )
its light and its easy to use and easier to add sections on
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Matt... How easy are modulars to use on domestics ?
Am really interested in the fishing pole, but the fact its modular puts me off a little, probably cos i have never used a modular before.
How do you control the hose ? Im guessing that it has to go on the outside of the pole.
When you say you can easily add sections on... How do you find sections to increase the length ? Is it att case of buying the same pole again ?
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Matt... How easy are modulars to use on domestics ?
Am really interested in the fishing pole, but the fact its modular puts me off a little, probably cos i have never used a modular before.
How do you control the hose ? Im guessing that it has to go on the outside of the pole.
Not matt but another fan of modular.
I started using the sl2 on domestics over a year ago and i haven't gone back to telescopic since. Modular poles are very quick to use and on most domestics you only need 2 sections. Very rarely more than 4. It took me a few weeks though to get use to having sections laying about.
Where modular poles gain over telescopic are their lightness. A child could clean downstairs with a single section and sl brush.
After a while, you will be as quick with a modular as with a telescopic pole. But with much less weight than even the lightest telescopic poles.
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Matt... How easy are modulars to use on domestics ?
Am really interested in the fishing pole, but the fact its modular puts me off a little, probably cos i have never used a modular before.
How do you control the hose ? Im guessing that it has to go on the outside of the pole.
When you say you can easily add sections on... How do you find sections to increase the length ? Is it att case of buying the same pole again ?
i was skeptical for months, i had the fishing pole in my garage for a long long time, i was suffering from a neck pain, it went on for months, then Jeff B mentioned the fishing pole again, so i got it out and thought " i am going to hate this " , the thought of ditching the telescopic pole filled me with dread, i dont like change
so i thought on the issue of carrying around the sections of poles, you will need 5 for a domestic ground and 1st floor house, BUT i have glued the base and next section together, the middle and next section also glued, then a short 3 ft brush section
thus you have 2 sections of poles and a short pole with the brush on the end
its very hard to forget a section if its done as above
back to your question, yes the pipe is outside the pole, its not a issue
the last 2 sections will normally turn end for end and you can add them to your pole, so just buy a extra pole for another 6ft of reach, you will also have some spares incase the pole gets dammaged
i allways said if i get 3 months out of the pole its paid for itself at 20 ish quid
BUT its not 2 and 1/2 years old and still going well, it did once blow over and break, but i just slid the section inside each other and whacked some glue on
you get used to not leaving the pole against the wall, you leave it over a fence panel so it cannot blow anywhere
mark dew has mentioned the lightness, my 6 yr old daughter can clean my whole house, up and downstairs, yes its that light
a pole to do domestic houses can cost you 20 something quid, i say to anybody, give it a whirl with a open mind, i guarantee the lightness will surprise you
i now await the " it would never work " , " get a proper pole " , " the customer will think you look like a cowboy using a fishing pole " ( like they really care ::) ) , " i have a 500 quid pole for fishing " , and the best reply ( when i first did the DIY pole site ) " i dont like it "
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These fishing poles are great; they seem too good to be true for the price; but try them, they really are that good.
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You have convinced me ! Have wanted att carbon pole for ages, but not really been able to justify it till i figured out how much this isnt going to cost me.
And the bit about kids cleaning. My lad will be 9 next year.. Sure he would want to earn some extra cash to feed his habbit. We bought him a DSi for xmas and he will want game after game. Plus will keep him busy in the holidays ;D
Start em young i say ! I was out washing cars at his age till i could get a paper round.
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You have convinced me ! Have wanted att carbon pole for ages, but not really been able to justify it till i figured out how much this isnt going to cost me.
And the bit about kids cleaning. My lad will be 9 next year.. Sure he would want to earn some extra cash to feed his habbit. We bought him a DSi for xmas and he will want game after game. Plus will keep him busy in the holidays ;D
Start em young i say ! I was out washing cars at his age till i could get a paper round.
nothing to lose to be honest, 20 something quid delivered isnt going to break the bank
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Am going to go for the 11M one Matt. Looks like a good price and will be able to use it on my higher jobs instead of this 20 ton fibre glass thing ive got. If i need higher, ill just grab another and add sections like you suggested :)
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£47 delivered for the 11M one, great price
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Am going to go for the 11M one Matt. Looks like a good price and will be able to use it on my higher jobs instead of this 20 ton fibre glass thing ive got. If i need higher, ill just grab another and add sections like you suggested :)
keep in mind, its only the last 2 ( sometimes 3 ) sections that can be used at the base
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Yeah i know Matt,
Thanks for the advice ;D Ill come hunting for you when i get it ;)
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i notice that the 12.5 M comes with Complete with 2 spare top kits
e.mail / phone them and explain you dont need them, they might knock a fiver off ( it'll pay for your postage ;))
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does anyone know what working height in feet you can get out of a 11m and 12m?
I use a Zensorflex with another fishing pole added on for my 3/4 story clean and the lightness is great - really recommend it. Will need replacing soon so this one looks good.
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does anyone know what working height in feet you can get out of a 11m and 12m?
I use a Zensorflex with another fishing pole added on for my 3/4 story clean and the lightness is great - really recommend it. Will need replacing soon so this one looks good.
Depends on the max packed lengths of each section, an F16 is approx 5ft 8" as is many other full carbons, so with an 11m you lose the top three sections that should make it an 8 metre useable pole.
At 8m , Zensorflex type is glass fibre and a shorter compact sectioned pole of 1m sections which fits accross the back seat of a car when packed.So with this shorter pole you lose the top two sections which leaves you with a pole of approx 5.8.The Zensor with the no 1&2 discarded and the No3 section cut down to take a piece of Unger No1 is 5.8m. Its a bit waggly but is very strong because its all glassfibre.
If SWC is reccomending 11m pole thats good enough for me hes an expert. 8)
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11m should give you 24ft too 26ft, the gangster pole gave me a 24.4ft pole, i got a shimano 12.5m pole it gave me 28.7ft, so they should do nicely.
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jeff i found some spare for your f16
http://www.fishingspares.co.uk/index.php?cPath=1_49_201_184
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Thanks :) Mine of information. :) :)
The F16 is 5 years old now and still going strong, made a diy post about making the tips stronger.
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it goes upto a no 12 section :P
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I found the gangster as an in between the Zensor and the f16, price and stiffness. the gangster is not that stiff though, If SWC has found a strongish stiffer and longer pole than the Gangster then he will have done everyon e service.
ESPECIALLY if the 12.5 section will fit onto the base sections of say an F16/M16 or another makes pole 8) so that the base of the signal will fit on say a 13.5m section of an F16. Then all you need to go higher is a parallel section for the f16 to go to 70ft plus ay a price of £60 per extension section ( as mentioned in SWC s link for spares)
Now that makes it ...err ...um
£90 for the Signal 12.5
£60 for a 13.5m section and
£60 for each extension
which makes err..tara.......
£450 for a 65fter ???
If you get my drift
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I have a modular fishing pole (thanks Jeff & Matt for the ideas & help a couple of yrs ago) and use it on my 3 & 4 storey high comemrcial jobs and it's great. Yes a bit wippy but saves my neck.
I used to do those jobs with the green unger metal pole and ache for days afterwards :P
Not got onto using a modular for houses yet as I have quiet a few that need weird means of access for certain windows that I know would snap a fishing pole. You know like odd angles holding the pole or over a conservatory or flat roof that sort of thing.
But great for the high stuff :-)
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so fishing poles will snap over conny rooves/porches etc? I was considering something if a couple of jobs come off,I got a 25" slx,but will not reach for these jobs i quoted,at a guess i would need 35-40" pole,any recommendations,no good if it snaps over awkward angles though ???
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F16 aint snapped in my 5 years daily use, will go 30ft ish horizontal. But at low angles all the poles are very difficult to use. Whats your current pole for 35ft work ?
Quite like the new Ionics poles but are quite a lot heavier.
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Ive use fishing poles for a few years never had on snap over a con roof, Ive drove over a section or two, even stood on a few, if there looked after you will have no probs, why don't you buy extra section for your slx, i have Ive now got a slx 35, as well as a slx22
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Hi SWC sorry to change topic, did you ever try a Gangster/Signal to be able to compare, I noticed that the signal was carbon modulus so its seems similar to the gangster, thicker softer walls ?
Would buy one to try but hey I got too many poles already.
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Ive use fishing poles for a few years never had on snap over a con roof, Ive drove over a section or two, even stood on a few, if there looked after you will have no probs, why don't you buy extra section for your slx, i have Ive now got a slx 35, as well as a slx22
I have thought about that,but they are £100 a section aren't they? how much extra reach does each section get you?I thought it might be cheaper to go down the DIY fishing pole route
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i think the section were about 90 quid each , without measuring on you should get 5 ft extra reach each section, i cant see how your slx25 cant reach over cons Ive got a 22 an that reaches
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its not for over cons,its for some higher jobs i quoted for,dorma windows in big old mansion type building,some velux's on another place,just quotes at mo,but think i will need longer pole for odd job in the future
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35ft should be fine, sorry jeff i didn't read your properly not i ain't tried it yet its still in the garage but looks the same feels the same its the signal 12.5 and it wont be used as water fed pole as i need it for baiting up pole for my fishing , it will be cut down to almost the same size but its gonna take a screw thread of a old landing net so i can fit the baiting spoon on the end, now thinking about it theses poles im gonna give link to are what im copying but i think these will do for wfp as there cut to 12.5, and get the facelift crew bit from cleantech then bingo wfp.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ANGLING-INTELLIGENCE-12M-BAITING-POLE-PACK_W0QQitemZ150399403569QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportingGoods_FishingAcces_RL?hash=item230480c631
http://www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=307
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Thanks for that ;)
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I used one for quite a while. If you search my instructions are on here.
I would recommend no more that a 14 feet length for domestic. So time you've added the brush and two sections the pole is 14ft. Obviously you can still add sections to take it higher.
The reason I say 14, is that although 16 will reach everything over conservatories and extension and any 1 story window, it is often too long and you bash the base. Carry a short extender section for the houses you need it on.
I think gluing the brush and 1st section will be a good idea. If your domestic pole can be just 2 sections for your average window it will be very fast to use. Even having 3 sections to plug together was a pain. 2 would be easy to snap together and you'd be away.
Mine died when it was crush in the van door when the wind blew it on it.
As to snapping whilst cleaning, it aint going to happen. I've snapped normal poles but the fishing pole felt very strong laterally.