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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ccmids on December 18, 2009, 12:58:53 pm

Title: RO insulation
Post by: ccmids on December 18, 2009, 12:58:53 pm
just got some silver backed foil insulation for the RO in my van, thought i would wrap it with a blanket first then go round with the silver stuff .
is this any good has anyone done this ?
then i was going to throw a blanket over the hose reel , and leave a low watt heater on all night .
cant think of what els to do to stop the freez.

The next van i get i will have the hole thing done with that expanding foam then line walls out with the ply lineing and the roof , but thats not for about 2 years.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: Xline Systems on December 18, 2009, 01:16:22 pm
stick a heater in the back matey. not worth the risk. we get through loads of ro's in the winter due to freezing
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: ccmids on December 18, 2009, 01:18:32 pm
what s the best heater , ive got a 60 watt tube type thing , dont seem to throw out much heat though.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: Xline Systems on December 18, 2009, 01:20:15 pm
any heater. though i would not reccomend an open flame one. we use oil filled rads on the lowest setting.
remember its only got to stay above 0
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: ccmids on December 18, 2009, 01:21:46 pm
what is the watts on them ,and how much
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: Xline Systems on December 18, 2009, 01:26:25 pm
ours are 1500 watt but way over the top. we get them from argos.yours should be fine mate. ours is left on the lowest setting. its only gotta be 1degree to stop it from freezing. i also know somebody that uses under floor heating cable and wraps it around his filter system.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: matt on December 18, 2009, 01:43:10 pm
ARGOS


Value Mini 800w Oil Filled Radiator.
415/1388

£24.99


http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4151388/c_1/1|category_root|Home+and+furniture|14417894/c_2/3|15701253|Heaters+and+radiators|14417957/c_3/4|cat_14417957|Oil+filled+radiators|14417968.htm


(http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/56-4151388A71UC520366M.jpg)

every town has a argos ;)
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: borg on December 18, 2009, 03:38:33 pm
ARGOS


Value Mini 800w Oil Filled Radiator.
415/1388

£24.99


http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4151388/c_1/1|category_root|Home+and+furniture|14417894/c_2/3|15701253|Heaters+and+radiators|14417957/c_3/4|cat_14417957|Oil+filled+radiators|14417968.htm


(http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/56-4151388A71UC520366M.jpg)

every town has a argos ;)
not evry town
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: ccmids on December 19, 2009, 09:20:45 am
had Tubular Heater 60watt on all night and temp is still below freez ,are the oil filled heaters safe for in the back of my van.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: R W C™ on December 19, 2009, 04:04:53 pm
ARGOS


Value Mini 800w Oil Filled Radiator.
415/1388

£24.99


http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4151388/c_1/1|category_root|Home+and+furniture|14417894/c_2/3|15701253|Heaters+and+radiators|14417957/c_3/4|cat_14417957|Oil+filled+radiators|14417968.htm


(http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/56-4151388A71UC520366M.jpg)

every town has a argos ;)

Matt I dont know if it was you that could tell how much a tubular heater costs a ahour but if it was how much would one of these cost as just ordered one to collect in a minute from argos.

Chris
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: matt on December 19, 2009, 04:15:06 pm
ARGOS


Value Mini 800w Oil Filled Radiator.
415/1388

£24.99


http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4151388/c_1/1|category_root|Home+and+furniture|14417894/c_2/3|15701253|Heaters+and+radiators|14417957/c_3/4|cat_14417957|Oil+filled+radiators|14417968.htm


(http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/56-4151388A71UC520366M.jpg)

every town has a argos ;)

Matt I dont know if it was you that could tell how much a tubular heater costs a ahour but if it was how much would one of these cost as just ordered one to collect in a minute from argos.

Chris

nope it wasnt me , sorry

though i do know when i researched heaters the oil filled heaters were the cheapest to run ( i say that with the expectaion that someone will come along and prove me wrong, but the research i did, pointed at the oil filled heaters being the cheapest, they were very cheap per hour )

Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: R W C™ on December 19, 2009, 04:32:33 pm
Nope sorry Matt it wasnt you that I thought was the clever one  ;) it wass GOLD and it was even on a thread I started so should of found it earlier lol
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=86439.20

So Gold if your reading this how much would one of them ones from argos cost to heat

Chris
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: paul saunders on December 19, 2009, 04:50:11 pm
About 9p per hour if it's the 800wat radiator, if it's the 2kw heater then it will cost about 22p per hour.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: ccmids on December 19, 2009, 04:54:49 pm
Ive bought one today it 800watt just trying it out now :) hope it dose not over heat it says on the
book ,not to use a extention lead ,but i have to for the van is about 9 / 10 feet from the shed.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: paul saunders on December 19, 2009, 05:41:06 pm
If it's an extension on a reel,fully unwind it and you should be ok.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: ccmids on December 19, 2009, 05:44:21 pm
should i fully unwind it then , why what could happen ,is that what they meen, the extention will over heat.
i thought they ment the heater , forgive me for sounding thick by the way .
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: matt on December 19, 2009, 05:45:51 pm
If it's an extension on a reel,fully unwind it and you should be ok.

indeed

if you are that concearned get a heavy duty extension

BUT

allways unwind the cable from the reel, as thats what gets hot

though the 800 W shouldnt use that much juice
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: paul saunders on December 19, 2009, 05:47:30 pm
if you don't fully unwind it the cable could over heat and melt the insulation, which could cause a fire. That is why they say not to use an extension lead. "they're just covering their backs"
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: matt on December 19, 2009, 05:49:40 pm
should i fully unwind it then , why what could happen ,is that what they meen, the extention will over heat.
i thought they ment the heater , forgive me for sounding thick by the way .

they are concerned that the power drain will make the extension cable get too hot

as its only a 800 W its not likely to happen

BUT YES unwind the cable from the reel

i once worked in a bit of a mini workshop doing joinery, we used to have loads of power tools running, once the power went, i went and checked the RCD board and it was being fed by a extension lead from the guys house  :o :o :o i was amazed and got on my high horse about it, you could feel the cable getting warm  BUT this was running lights, hoover ( for extraction system ) planner, chop saw, radio

Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: ccmids on December 19, 2009, 05:50:20 pm
cheers  ive just unwound it , think tomrow ill cut the right length from shed to van.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: matt on December 19, 2009, 05:54:14 pm
if you are running it outside

its allways wise to get a RCD circut breaker, they are only about 5 - 7 quid these days
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: ccmids on December 20, 2009, 01:27:57 pm
got the rcd and left on all night , turned off this morning at 11 am just had to put it back on at 1pm temp dropped fast. looks like ill have to leave on all night again and all day monday.
Title: Re: RO insulation
Post by: matt on December 20, 2009, 05:16:24 pm
got the rcd and left on all night , turned off this morning at 11 am just had to put it back on at 1pm temp dropped fast. looks like ill have to leave on all night again and all day monday.

the amount of money it costs to run , i would leave it on all the time till the weather improves