Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: krave on December 13, 2009, 12:28:35 am
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Sorry again for the abundance of messages and threads.
I have my swivel adapter and am doing what is recommended, and this may sound stupid.....
But do I have the plastic goosenech able to go back and forward and the swivle left to right? Or is the swivel to make it lean back and forward easily?
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what swivel do you have
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Just the one from gardiners. Think it only goes on one axis
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it should go side to side only
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Sort of got that after reading twice ;D swivel to the left then to the right. angle adapter to adjust horizontal attack of the brush
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if it is the ball valve which i think it is, put a long pin through it to stop it falling of
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I found the swivels broke easily so gave up with them.
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Here is how I have it at the moment. Was going to put the pin through it, But wanted to make sue I had it the right way before drilling etc!!
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And the curious cat.
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Yes that's it, handy when they work but a pain when they snap between the ball and screw connector
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like the girl thingy where did you get that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Can someone explain the difference between using one of these and just swivelling it on the angle adaptor without the swivel please?
Turning it on the angle adaptor enables you to use it at any contorted angle to the side of where you are working, which is what a swivel is for isnt it?
Matt
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Cheers people. Am modding it tonight as Macmac advised.
like the girl thingy where did you get that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry not understanding?
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Can someone explain the difference between using one of these and just swivelling it on the angle adaptor without the swivel please?
Turning it on the angle adaptor enables you to use it at any contorted angle to the side of where you are working, which is what a swivel is for isnt it?
Matt
It happens in situ' by twisting the pole, like a wagtail if you've used one. You can manually adjust the angle adaptor for virtical angle of the brush but the swivel allows sideways angles in real time while brush still has full contact with glass. Apart from the obvious situations like over conservatories, parked cars etc. it's also very handy for low work too like patio doors where glass goes to floor or very tight acsess as you can work from the side instead of having to be flush on to the window & retain full contact with glass. Also windows that are not square. Does that help?
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Yea, cheers Mac.
More uses than obvious.
Cheers.
Might have to try one.
Matt
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Matt
The angle adaptor is ‘fixed’ (temporarily) at whatever angle you select – to enable the brush to sit flush on the window (whether the pole is near vertical or near horizontal (standing close to the wall or standing far away from the wall.
The ‘swivel connector’ is free to swivel at all times (enabling the brush ends to move forwards and backwards at any time.
This will only sound complicated and confusing, in print.
But, in practice, it means that you can clean windows over side obstructions (e.g. conservatories, outhouses, etc) when the swivel will allow a rectangular brush to ‘twist’ so that, while still sitting flush on the window, the brush edges/sides will be parallel with the frame (i.e. the square corners of the brush will ‘marry up’ with the square corners of the frame).
Believe me. They are great. Like WFP – once you’ve used them, you wouldn’t be without them!
Mike
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Believe me. They are great. Like WFP – once you’ve used them, you wouldn’t be without them!
Mike
I'll second that, it's up there with the slx, minibore hose, varistream etc. But, as said, you do need to "pin" them or they'll just pop out. ;)
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Believe me. They are great. Like WFP – once you’ve used them, you wouldn’t be without them!
Mike
I'll second that, it's up there with the slx, minibore hose, varistream etc. But, as said, you do need to "pin" them or they'll just pop out. ;)
I went with microbore, Due to it apparantly being lighter and giving better flow.
What is it you find to be good about minibore, If your putting it so high up?
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Believe me. They are great. Like WFP – once you’ve used them, you wouldn’t be without them!
Mike
I'll second that, it's up there with the slx, minibore hose, varistream etc. But, as said, you do need to "pin" them or they'll just pop out. ;)
I went with microbore, Due to it apparantly being lighter and giving better flow.
What is it you find to be good about minibore, If your putting it so high up?
These are big steps forward in wfp IMO.
I chose 8mm hose for 2 reasons
1. There seems to be many people have flow/pump/ trouble with 6mm hose
2. 8mm hose puts less strain on the pump which in turn uses less power from the battery & I run my pump box direct from van battery with no probs. Never had a problem with flow/pump or battery.
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Just bought one Im sure you're all right.
TIA
Matt
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Just bought one Im sure you're all right.
TIA
Matt
It's one of those things that after a short time you wonder how you ever managed without it. I have to have a stock of them as I have work now that would be just a nightmare without one so I can't afford to be without one. ;)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, them swivels are absolute rubbish. Buy a floor mop swivel and adapt it to fit your brush.
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well i dont think there rubish, ive used them for about two years now, its just a difference of opinion, but the fact the swivel idea is a good one.
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Ionics have just brought out there version of the swivel called the sideswipe and as per usual ridiculous price ::)
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sorry :-* i thought you said swingers ;D
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sorry :-* i thought you said swingers ;D
wrong forum bob
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how do you pin them macmac?
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how do you pin them macmac?
Drill a hole directly through the centre & insert a nail/pin. this stops the ball poppin' out of the socket. ;)
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cheers macmac,I will get one on order with a few connector spares
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how do you pin them macmac?
Drill a hole directly through the centre & insert a nail/pin. this stops the ball poppin' out of the socket. ;)
Mines just arrived today.
Why would you want to pin it, I cant understand that, surely if you do that you prevent it from swivelling!! ??? ???
Also, am I right in thinking that the movement is meant to be from side to side rather than up or down?
Matt
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how do you pin them macmac?
Drill a hole directly through the centre & insert a nail/pin. this stops the ball poppin' out of the socket. ;)
Mines just arrived today.
Why would you want to pin it, I cant understand that, surely if you do that you prevent it from swivelling!! ??? ???
Also, am I right in thinking that the movement is meant to be from side to side rather than up or down?
Matt
Matt,the ball joint can pop out and it is best to drill a hole through it and pop a bolt through with a nylock nut on but dont over tighten it so it still moves side to side
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So looking at it I guess you'd drill down through from top to bottom so it can still swivel from side to side?
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So looking at it I guess you'd drill down through from top to bottom so it can still swivel from side to side?
Yep you got it,full brownie points to ya Matt ;D
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I got my Gold arrow as a cub scout you know ;)
You can tell cant ya ;D
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I got my Gold arrow as a cub scout you know ;)
You can tell cant ya ;D
And now you are a "swiveler" so go get swiveling ;D
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how much ?
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So looking at it I guess you'd drill down through from top to bottom so it can still swivel from side to side?
Yep, now go & swivel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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Mac what stops the swivel from spinning round when you don't want it to?
Matt
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Mac what stops the swivel from spinning round when you don't want it to?
Matt
When the brush is on the glass, you controll it by twisting (or not) the pole. When the brush isn't on the glass, nothing but this isn't a problem, you get used to manipulating the brush no matter the situation. ;)
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I used it briefly today.
It became apparent that it isnt likely to be useful when cleaning the outsides of gutters and I had difficulty doing the downstairs sills from the side.
Is this the case Mac in your experience?
Matt
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I used it briefly today.
It became apparent that it isnt likely to be useful when cleaning the outsides of gutters and I had difficulty doing the downstairs sills from the side.
Is this the case Mac in your experience?
Matt
I find gutters easier, I only wipe off sills with a cloth if needed.
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Well, live 'n learn as they say, I shall keep on practising with it, it wasn't a good day to be trying something new out in all honesty, bloody miserable, cold, snow, wet 'orrible Mr Mainwaring it was.
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It takes a few days to get used to it Matt, it feels less rigid to start with for one thing if you're used to a fixed neck. Give it time, I'm sure you'll like it. ;)
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Well, live 'n learn as they say, I shall keep on practising with it, it wasn't a good day to be trying something new out in all honesty, bloody miserable, cold, snow, wet 'orrible Mr Mainwaring it was.
Bit off subject mate, whats it like Wfp'ing in snow, any tips? Didt work today, And need to really tomorrow....
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Well, live 'n learn as they say, I shall keep on practising with it, it wasn't a good day to be trying something new out in all honesty, bloody miserable, cold, snow, wet 'orrible Mr Mainwaring it was.
My tip is stay at home. ;)
Bit off subject mate, whats it like Wfp'ing in snow, any tips? Didt work today, And need to really tomorrow....
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It takes a few days to get used to it Matt, it feels less rigid to start with for one thing if you're used to a fixed neck. Give it time, I'm sure you'll like it. ;)
I really noticed that less rigid business today.
Bad day though again in all honesty re: weather, one of those days were I wanted to just crack on big time, do my money and go home.
So I took the swivel off, Ive decided to be able to give it a fair trial not to use it again til the weather is better to work in. Cant be being fair to it in all honesty when its cold like this.
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I know what you mean, when time's limited you don't want to waste even a minute on something you don't trust yet. Best thing really Matt, you'll have more time for it then. ;)