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Title: Black hands ?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on December 11, 2009, 09:31:32 pm
I seem to rember someone on a very recent topic, saying they had black hands from using a c/f pole, has anyone else noticed their hands going black ?
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: Window Washers on December 11, 2009, 09:34:51 pm
I seem to rember someone on a very recent topic, saying they had black hands from using a c/f pole, has anyone else noticed their hands going black ?
I have a black left hand  and right hand is starting to go black aswell :(
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on December 11, 2009, 09:37:34 pm
Gloves ;)
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: G Griffin on December 11, 2009, 09:37:48 pm
Is that your carbon handprint then?
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: Clive McDonald on December 11, 2009, 09:44:07 pm
car wax
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: [GQC] Tim on December 12, 2009, 01:21:22 am
I seem to rember someone on a very recent topic, saying they had black hands from using a c/f pole, has anyone else noticed their hands going black ?

Yes it happens. Most of the time this happens when it's wet weather, and when pole wear is a bit higher.
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on December 12, 2009, 04:09:51 am
I seem to rember someone on a very recent topic, saying they had black hands from using a c/f pole, has anyone else noticed their hands going black ?


Yes it happens. Most of the time this happens when it's wet weather, and when pole wear is a bit higher.

Thanks for the replies  :) Tim, "when the pole is higher" so does that mean that the carbon is rubbing off the lower thicker larger diameter sections ? Is it an old/earlier  pole ?
ps I dont have black hands ?
It bothers me slightly that small quantities of carbon may  be absorbed through the skin !
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: Londoner on December 12, 2009, 07:56:09 am
I have orange hands from my pole. Its not carbon its the resin its incased in coming off.
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: [GQC] Tim on December 12, 2009, 08:51:44 am
I seem to rember someone on a very recent topic, saying they had black hands from using a c/f pole, has anyone else noticed their hands going black ?


Yes it happens. Most of the time this happens when it's wet weather, and when pole wear is a bit higher.

Thanks for the replies  :) Tim, "when the pole is higher" so does that mean that the carbon is rubbing off the lower thicker larger diameter sections ? Is it an old/earlier  pole ?
ps I dont have black hands ?
It bothers me slightly that small quantities of carbon may  be absorbed through the skin !

No no hehe, I meant when the pole is wearing quicker then normal, higher wear, usually in wet weather, with grit and everything sticking to the pole hose. I'm not sure if it's getting absorbed in the skin, but it can't be good.
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: dd on December 12, 2009, 05:03:47 pm
Ewan, skin will absorb things. It is porous. It may not be harmful to absorb carbon but some will be and also enter the blood stream.
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on December 12, 2009, 06:49:03 pm
Breathing carbon dust is not advisable, couldld be carsogenic

read some of the replies here

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311845
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: dai on December 12, 2009, 07:32:36 pm
Wouldn't a coat of polyurathane varnish help prevent this? They used to varnish the old spit cane fishing rods, and the varnish sealed them.
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: tomy jackson on December 12, 2009, 07:37:26 pm
thats wot brodex have dun with new aly pole .its the glass and cardenfiber that cept me with haris pole till now
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: krave on December 12, 2009, 07:42:12 pm
Surely even if it was slightly carsonagenic it wouldnt do anything with the amount of dust you would be taking in.

Look at mechanics with oil and things, all in there skin, through there sytems etc and generally that goes by no problem.

If it was something to worry abouth would it not be with a warning, or more publisized than on some forums in general chat?
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on December 12, 2009, 08:15:21 pm
Problem with that analysis is that c/f poles are unusually new and not much info. So it looks like we will have to do our own risk assesment for using them or not.

Like I mentioned I dont get black hands with the c/f F16 or the glassfibre  Zensor flex but I used to with Alumimium poles. Fishermen have been using these poles a lot longer than us.

Knowing what c/f poles produce oxides (black hands) might help others ?
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: tomy jackson on December 12, 2009, 08:35:00 pm
but not with the new brodex no black hands or glass and carben iritunrt ie ichy ,the moduler poles your not sliding up and down ?
Title: Re: Black hands ?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on December 12, 2009, 09:19:28 pm
Thats right, no sliding with modulars so no friction of pole against pole. So modulars hopefully dont give you black hands  ???
Only wear is the tips where they push fit.