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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: R W C™ on December 10, 2009, 08:59:23 pm
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Hi everyone
Can you help us find a new administrator?
Established in 2003, Cleanitup.co.uk is the world’s largest cleaning forum, attracting up to 1000 members per day who post in excess of 20,000 messages per month. We’re now looking for a new commercial administrator who can help us develop the site by introducing new services and features to our members.
Are you, or someone you know, looking for a new and interesting home-based role?
You would take full responsibility for all day to day aspects of running the site and identify new business opportunities. This is ideal for someone with good commercial acumen and a genuine interest helping others develop their business.
You will need to have:
Excellent communication skills with good written English
An enthusiastic and professional attitude
In-depth knowledge of the UK cleaning industry
The role provides:
Flexible hours to suit
A profit sharing arrangement with uncapped earnings
If you or someone you know fits the bill, please email your CV with an indication of how you think the site could be developed to:
admin@cleanitup.co.uk
Many thanks
Mike Boxall - forum administrator
c/o i-Clean Systems Ltd
Unit 14, 190 Malvern Common
Poolbrook Road
Malvern
WR14 3JZ
Tel: 01684 580680
Closing date for expressions of interest: 31st December 2009
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Slumpbuster & Ewan have my vote.
Seriously,.. despite all the abuse we give them (all in good fun) I reckon these guys have the business acumen and the out of the box ideas that are needed to revive CIU from its current state. :)
Maybe Matt could be the tea boy? ;)
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Not seen you for a while Chris... you ok mate?
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Not seen you for a while Chris... you ok mate?
haha.. signed back up again :P
Cant keep away ;D
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I'll do it, s'alright, no need to worry, I'll sort it out ;)
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Not seen you for a while Chris... you ok mate?
haha.. signed back up again :P
Cant keep away ;D
Been a busy busy boy building my empire, been doing the builders cleans on the new weatherspoons, might even have the national contracts for the builders cleans if anyone interested ;) call me Dean the 2nd :)
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Trust Bateman ;D
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You sound like my Maths teacher
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Thats why i said it ;)
I remembered it from a previous thread and found it funny ;D
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I have emailed Mike with allsorts of dross CV's from various alteregos, I dont think he'll be too impressed with Ewans CV, mentioned somewhere in it about doing time for arson and Dave Morris' looked like a war zone in the middle of a Mothercare store; reckon Im home and dry ;D ;D
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great, i have just been accepted, now where will i start, ;D the rest of you never stood a chance lol
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i have run bigger ( more members and posts per day ) boards, a tech board i setup was massive ( at the time ), you could search any number of tech / nerdy keywords and it was top of google ,i it was copied and copied and then for a number of reasons we decided to call it a day ( its a long story ) have even had a community board i setup featured in .net mag ( ooooooooo get me ;))
the money has been made from message boards, it was done years ago, now your only option is to rent banner space and the money isnt it it, i know what i make from my projects with renting banner space, it only just covers the hosting bills , so if anyone is thinking it will be a earner, forget it ( sorry Mike )
personally if i was Mike, i would appoint a fair few mod's and let then do the admin job betweem them ( lets face it, this place doesnt really need much admin work done "board side", let then share the profits and the burden , have a pot of money and every now and then share it out, this method works very well, the mods are kept keen
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just out of interest
what the hell is this
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/forumadminad.gif)
its shocking :o :o :o
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just out of interest
what the hell is this
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/forumadminad.gif)
its shocking :o :o :o
That's meant to be Lord Kitchener isn't it - from the old war time ads saying "Your country needs you". Seems a bit dramatic for a window cleaning forum :)
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just out of interest
what the hell is this
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/forumadminad.gif)
its shocking :o :o :o
That's meant to be Lord Kitchener isn't it - from the old war time ads saying "Your country needs you". Seems a bit dramatic for a window cleaning forum :)
seems a bit 1997 to me
i shouted at my daughter to come and see how they made banners before she was born
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ther can ownly be one person fur the joab......scrimmy.....well verssed and a greeet comunikator 8)
all they needed to do was ask :-X
not to busy to help turn this old delapidated forum around 8)
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i have run bigger ( more members and posts per day ) boards, a tech board i setup was massive ( at the time ), you could search any number of tech / nerdy keywords and it was top of google ,i it was copied and copied and then for a number of reasons we decided to call it a day ( its a long story ) have even had a community board i setup featured in .net mag ( ooooooooo get me ;))
the money has been made from message boards, it was done years ago, now your only option is to rent banner space and the money isnt it it, i know what i make from my projects with renting banner space, it only just covers the hosting bills , so if anyone is thinking it will be a earner, forget it ( sorry Mike )
personally if i was Mike, i would appoint a fair few mod's and let then do the admin job betweem them ( lets face it, this place doesnt really need much admin work done "board side", let then share the profits and the burden , have a pot of money and every now and then share it out, this method works very well, the mods are kept keen
As always very knowledgeable on the subject matt ( which i am not) however that's not quite what mike asked.He wants someone to develope income streams from the largest wc cleaning (is it 60k members or something) community in the country.That could be flogging our names to various orgs such as public liability insurers, or other suppliers, or many other ways of milking what we have.
The biz opps section never really took off, but there has to be a number of ways there.When he had the idea for the directory, i thought great, but then he went and made a complete pigs ear of it.
Reading some of things said many seem to confuse admin and moderator.These roles are seperate, the mod needs good communications skills and good judgement, the admin role suggested seems more strategy and of course day to day running.
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It is Kitchener.
Give the admin job to Gary Mallett. He`s different.
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scrimmy gets my vote, hes off this head and a tight scot. :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I always thought clean it up magazine would have some mileage.
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What would you do to bring in the big money Ian?
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He's unlikely to recruit from one of us, and the best business model would be the fed. Everything they shoud have done ten years ago they are now doing, which is to find ways of adding as much value as possible to being a member while soaking individual members for as much as they will stand.
I was quite excited about the guild, but they were beaten to the punch on most things.Mike gets the ideas but uses poor strategy to implement them, he got lucky with this forum, in that it is a fabulous success with the users providing the content etc, but that's all it was luck.The brainy bit is to turn that into a sustainable cash cow.
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What would you do to bring in the big money Ian?
yes, i am interested in that aswell
a directory ? ? ? its been done and didnt work, even if it was a success, it would just spawn copies that will sell the "rights" cheaper
slumpy said selling off our details to companies, not going to make many friends that, and we dont really have to list details, a company could get a office admin to look at posts and find details
the nature of most window cleaners is that they want the money they earn to stay in the pocket, they will not pay for a directory, subs, private members area, gold membership etc etc
i look forward to your idea's as it will be interesting
i have done steering of forums, from the backend programming to the idea's to bring in money to pay for the hosting, i had a forum that ran on its own dedicated box, yes its own server ( based in the USA ), not shared with 200 - 300 other sites, the bandwidth was massive
dont judge my online achievements on the DIY forum, because i can assure you its not, in certain online circles i was and am still well thought of
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I am not applying, I am very not good at spelling :D
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he got lucky with this forum, in that it is a fabulous success with the users providing the content etc, but that's all it was luck.
slumpy, he didnt get lucky with the forum, he got lucky with the members, the forum would be nothing without the members
people come on here for a bit of advice, a bit of a laugh and a bit of naughtiness
its the members that make it, they made it many years ago
a new admin might come in and be a little uptight and think the "banter" posts are not wanted, people will move on and find somewhere else
i started a forum " the cleaning forums" a top notch message board ( chat room, full arcade it even had a auction attached to it , though the auction was never launched to the public ) , it had sections for the UK and USA, with the idea to bring over the Americans and share the idea's ( the americans use e.mail lists more than forums, i got to know the admin on the e.mail list and we aggree'd to try the idea of the board ), it took of then a couple of idiots from another board who had just started decided to spoil it with porn links again and again, it was at a time when i started the DIY forum and was taking alot of abuse because of it )
so the idea was binned by myself, it just wasnt worth the hastle, i thought i would stick around and stay on CIU
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he got lucky with this forum, in that it is a fabulous success with the users providing the content etc, but that's all it was luck.
slumpy, he didnt get lucky with the forum, he got lucky with the members, the forum would be nothing without the members
people come on here for a bit of advice, a bit of a laugh and a bit of naughtiness
its the members that make it, they made it many years ago
a new admin might come in and be a little uptight and think the "banter" posts are not wanted, people will move on and find somewhere else
i started a forum " the cleaning forums" a top notch message board ( chat room, full arcade it even had a auction attached to it , though the auction was never launched to the public ) , it had sections for the UK and USA, with the idea to bring over the Americans and share the idea's ( the americans use e.mail lists more than forums, i got to know the admin on the e.mail list and we aggree'd to try the idea of the board ), it took of then a couple of idiots from another board who had just started decided to spoil it with porn links again and again, it was at a time when i started the DIY forum and was taking alot of abuse because of it )
so the idea was binned by myself, it just wasnt worth the hastle, i thought i would stick around and stay on CIU
I remeber your diy site spammed also matt, you do get some very sad people about, I would have tracked them and had a bit of fun personally.
By the way I think your diy forum is V good, I do think I have said that to you before, and if I remember correctly I even tried to help you not get in trouble over something that was missing.
Ian
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Of course everything you say makes sence because you know what you are talking about, i don't and was just casting about.Even bigger things, like friends reunited while having a high value produce little income and are soon outmoded, and i suppose there are not any great models to copy.
I never did judge you on the diy forum, it was ultruistic and therfore not my area.I did think that the people you were trying to help were not a nice bunch and the very least likely group to contribute to hosting or to put anything back.Using the same analytics you used on mike's forum your targets were a miserable tight bunch obsessed with not spending any money while taking part in what amounted to a once in a lifetime business opportunity.(being early adopters of wfp).What they should have done is spent like mad- ionics, concepto2, whatever, and filled there boots. Those that have have done well.
But don't take this as critisism, it's just my view.
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Of course everything you say makes sence because you know what you are talking about, i don't and was just casting about.Even bigger things, like friends reunited while having a high value produce little income and are soon outmoded, and i suppose there are not any great models to copy.
I never did judge you on the diy forum, it was ultruistic and therfore not my area.I did think that the people you were trying to help were not a nice bunch and the very least likely group to contribute to hosting or to put anything back.Using the same analytics you used on mike's forum your targets were a miserable tight bunch obsessed with not spending any money while taking part in what amounted to a once in a lifetime business opportunity.(being early adopters of wfp).What they should have done is spent like mad- ionics, concepto2, whatever, and filled there boots. Those that have have done well.
But don't take this as critisism, it's just my view.
i can see your point, though to be fair to the DIY lot, they have contributed to the hosting, it still hasnt cost me anything which is nice, the DIY forum has become abit of a resource place now, all the questions have been asked and answered, do a search on your problem and it has the answer, its also been superseeded by CIU, once on CIU it was a frowned upon topic, if you DIY'ed then you were a cowboy who couldnt afford a built system, then various companies made it respectable and easy to order all the kit from 1 place
but look at chopsie, he has just built his system, once upon a time he would have got no ( or very little ) help on CIU, it would be " buy a system from XXXXX " now with a little help he got the van, got some rear seats and installed a system
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Bloody cowboy ;D
Oi !
we will do the jokes, you just stick to your "special" type of posts
;)
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Of course everything you say makes sence because you know what you are talking about, i don't and was just casting about.Even bigger things, like friends reunited while having a high value produce little income and are soon outmoded, and i suppose there are not any great models to copy.
I never did judge you on the diy forum, it was ultruistic and therfore not my area.I did think that the people you were trying to help were not a nice bunch and the very least likely group to contribute to hosting or to put anything back.Using the same analytics you used on mike's forum your targets were a miserable tight bunch obsessed with not spending any money while taking part in what amounted to a once in a lifetime business opportunity.(being early adopters of wfp).What they should have done is spent like mad- ionics, concepto2, whatever, and filled there boots. Those that have have done well.
But don't take this as critisism, it's just my view.
i can see your point, though to be fair to the DIY lot, they have contributed to the hosting, it still hasnt cost me anything which is nice, the DIY forum has become abit of a resource place now, all the questions have been asked and answered, do a search on your problem and it has the answer, its also been superseeded by CIU, once on CIU it was a frowned upon topic, if you DIY'ed then you were a cowboy who couldnt afford a built system, then various companies made it respectable and easy to order all the kit from 1 place
but look at chopsie, he has just built his system, once upon a time he would have got no ( or very little ) help on CIU, it would be " buy a system from XXXXX " now with a little help he got the van, got some rear seats and installed a system
Think thats a little unfair Matt, I think the problem came about that some people doing diy were doing it danrerously and giving other information which would risk others lifes, this is why diy got jumped on, or at least when I was reading the replies this was true.
I think diy has it's place but safety should always come first before cost.
I have seen hundreds of posts that run shivers down my spine. , one that always strkes me was put in tank, use some 2x2 screw on floor job done.. this is one of the reasons you got a hard time and rightfully so as it was clearly stipid and dangerous.
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Of course everything you say makes sence because you know what you are talking about, i don't and was just casting about.Even bigger things, like friends reunited while having a high value produce little income and are soon outmoded, and i suppose there are not any great models to copy.
I never did judge you on the diy forum, it was ultruistic and therfore not my area.I did think that the people you were trying to help were not a nice bunch and the very least likely group to contribute to hosting or to put anything back.Using the same analytics you used on mike's forum your targets were a miserable tight bunch obsessed with not spending any money while taking part in what amounted to a once in a lifetime business opportunity.(being early adopters of wfp).What they should have done is spent like mad- ionics, concepto2, whatever, and filled there boots. Those that have have done well.
But don't take this as critisism, it's just my view.
i can see your point, though to be fair to the DIY lot, they have contributed to the hosting, it still hasnt cost me anything which is nice, the DIY forum has become abit of a resource place now, all the questions have been asked and answered, do a search on your problem and it has the answer, its also been superseeded by CIU, once on CIU it was a frowned upon topic, if you DIY'ed then you were a cowboy who couldnt afford a built system, then various companies made it respectable and easy to order all the kit from 1 place
but look at chopsie, he has just built his system, once upon a time he would have got no ( or very little ) help on CIU, it would be " buy a system from XXXXX " now with a little help he got the van, got some rear seats and installed a system
Think thats a little unfair Matt, I think the problem came about that some people doing diy were doing it danrerously and giving other information which would risk others lifes, this is why diy got jumped on, or at least when I was reading the replies this was true.
I think diy has it's place but safety should always come first before cost.
I have seen hundreds of posts that run shivers down my spine. , one that always strkes me was put in tank, use some 2x2 screw on floor job done.. this is one of the reasons you got a hard time and rightfully so as it was clearly stipid and dangerous.
this must have been before your time then ian, as the DIY'er were just called cowboys and told to buy a proper system, it was also about how elitist some were, back then when a system was pricey, they didnt want any tom dick or harry getting a system, it used to go on a fair bit, thats why the DIY was started, just so people could ask questions and not be looked down upon
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Bloody cowboy ;D
So have you applied then Ewan? ;D The admin job I mean.
No on two points I still refuse to spell “their” there, and I’m not suitable ;D
I think you would be suitable Ewan , although very annoy it would be sometimes ;D
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I'm always supprised at how many "health & safety experts" wfp has created! ::)
Danger is everywhere, risk is an everyday occurance, everybody puts economy before safety every day!
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I'm always supprised at how many "health & safety experts" wfp has created! ::)
Danger is everywhere, risk is an everyday occurance, everybody puts economy before safety every day!
More so if you had done a course on h&S is quite shocking and opens your eyes, instead of the blinkers many have had on for years and years and years, me included.
This is why I think training is good and I also stand by the NVQ for window cleaning and ladder training and wfp training. Yes anyone can do it, but can they do it correctly and safe (that is the question)
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The two words sound alike, one means a place, the other ownership, i tend to be okay on this but often mix up the words borrow and lend.
In fact you are more qualified than you think for the admin job ewan and you are being falsely modest.One of the forums problems, or at least if reports are to be believed the greatest irritations to Mike himself is suppliers coming on and getting a free ride.Some suppliers refuse to contribute even when they clearly benefit hugely and have a big following on the forum.
I know you like to hide your light under a bushel but what a great job getting rid of alex when no one else could ;D ;D
I think that's more the sort of joke that was mean't.
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By the way I think your diy forum is V good
Ian
I know you like to hide your light under a bushel but what a great job getting rid of alex when no one else could ;D ;D
thats enough for me
a compliment from ian to me
a compliment from slumpy to ewan ( and for the record he hides his light well ;D, so thats a success )
i am off to bed, i dont come on here for all this lovey-dovey stuff, next you will be sending each other E.cards with how much you like each other
can we tomorrow night get some arguments going ? ? ?
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I'm always supprised at how many "health & safety experts" wfp has created! ::)
Danger is everywhere, risk is an everyday occurance, everybody puts economy before safety every day!
More so if you had done a course on h&S is quite shocking and opens your eyes, instead of the blinkers many have had on for years and years and years, me included.
This is why I think training is good and I also stand by the NVQ for window cleaning and ladder training and wfp training. Yes anyone can do it, but can they do it correctly and safe (that is the question)
Everyone is limited by budget & knowlage. Otherwise we'd all be driving Ionics crash tested systems, if not, why not?
What in reality is just a statement of "my system is safer than yours but in a sense I'm a hypocrite because mine is not the safest & well I know it"
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Me too, helping wife again tomorrow.
ref van have pretty much decided on sticking pond liner down with bitumen glue.(on top of ply)
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By the way I think your diy forum is V good
Ian
I know you like to hide your light under a bushel but what a great job getting rid of alex when no one else could ;D ;D
thats enough for me
a compliment from ian to me
a compliment from slumpy to ewan ( and for the record he hides his light well ;D, so thats a success )
i am off to bed, i dont come on here for all this lovey-dovey stuff, next you will be sending each other E.cards with how much you like each other
can we tomorrow night get some arguments going ? ? ?
Matt I would just like to say you are one of the most amicable people on this forum. ;D
Ewan please don't kiss his eerm lets say "Forum" it is very off putting and I am trying to get things done here.
Get thing done, what fetch another beer
if you read it said get things done ::) but nice try Mr.
Ian
p.s I have a beer fridge in office so no need to move for that reason ;)
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I have a laptop in my beer room, no need to move either ;D
;D
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I thought this admin job was just that. Admin, not MOD. It's not for a window cleaning forum though, it's for CIU. They will give the position to someone who can do "Joined up writing" and knows how to use crayons safely. Good luck lads. ;D
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They will give the position to someone who can do "Joined up writing" and knows how to use crayons safely. Good luck lads. ;D
thats me stuffed then...i am declaring myself out 8)
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Scrimmy, I thought you had an NVQ in crayon use ??? I can't do joined up writing either, that's why I never got to be "An Hofficer" in the Army. :(
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i cant spell at all cozy...i use spell checker to double check everything before i hit the return button..
original message:
a cany sphell tall cusy...a yous spheel cheker to duble cheek eveerifing befor a hit the returne buttin.
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im i to late out me down
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It occured to me today to wonder what revenue streams or business models could be copied and the answer was surprising.Mikey boy heres an early christmass present.
First off if you are going to copy, copy somebody smart, and just about the smartest guy on the planet at this stuff is steve jobs as he is both an apple and a disney boss. If like me you've got a kid you probably know about club penguin a disney portal that children can enjpy free but get enhanced benefits from subscription payment. Basically they kit out a penguin and an igloo with household stuff that they are able to buy with points they earn.This achieves status amongst their peers and a sence of achievment as they deck out the igloo with all the latest gadgets.
So using this as the analogy ciu could offer a virtual wc round business where you have to biuld a customer base, obtain a system, and operate in a virtual system and are able to compete against other window cleaners for market share. Some might go the virtual franchise route, others get a few vans on the road. There will always be the slackers of course who will work three days a week and think that's enough.
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Not me ...
But I'll be a mod when one of the others is on holiday if they want me - ambitious aren't I?
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So using this as the analogy ciu could offer a virtual wc round business where you have to biuld a customer base, obtain a system, and operate in a virtual system and are able to compete against other window cleaners for market share. Some might go the virtual franchise route, others get a few vans on the road. There will always be the slackers of course who will work three days a week and think that's enough.
so its taken you all day to think of that ;D ;D, a online window cleaning game where you have to expand your round / biz and take on staff to feel like your life is important and a success
i have been out to center parcs today, left the house at 9 and back at 7.30, took the children to see father christmas, lots of pool time, had a meal in the sports bar which just happened to be at the same time and the cardiff football game live on sky, great to see my 6yr old chanting at the big screen whilst some liverpool "fans" looked on
top day out
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All this talk about revenue streams for the forum is a bit depressing. Yes I know CIU could actually make some serious money for its admin if run right,.. just look at WCR for an example, its a much smaller forum but tied into a shop & used to promote their products. The guys there are friendly & helpful,.... but it still doesn't have the same "Feel" as an independent forum,.. & I much prefer the independent ones.
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ACS ALL THE WAY
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The topic is admin and the aim is revenue and to put some purpose into this aimless platform for the vires of a collection of gas bags.
It hasn't taken me all day matt, i've been working on the market- earning money.
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It hasn't taken me all day matt, i've been working on the market- earning money.
you can add sidelines / other income streams to your "online window cleaners game" aswell ;)
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All this talk about revenue streams for the forum is a bit depressing. Yes I know CIU could actually make some serious money for its admin if run right,.. just look at WCR for an example, its a much smaller forum but tied into a shop & used to promote their products. The guys there are friendly & helpful,.... but it still doesn't have the same "Feel" as an independent forum,.. & I much prefer the independent ones.
I honestly don't think there is "serious money" to be made with this site. After all, that advertising space has been available for ages now, and nobody has bothered to take it up. Eventually they had to put google ads on there, which says it all really.
After all who would pay? Big suppliers like ionics shun these forums, so I can't see them advertising, and they havent upto now.
And since nobody is ever going to pay to join a forum, I just dont see where income can come from.
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if there was a paid for service on here, I am sure many would pay a fee for it, I would, and do on other forums. it works well IMO
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Yes. privileges that free members wouldn't get.Get rid of my embarrasing post count for a start, and be able to have a sensible chat sometimes .
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Yes. privileges that free members wouldn't get.Get rid of my embarrasing post count for a start, and be able to have a sensible chat sometimes .
this would be a start, also a few other things could be done, this would make ciu money and also make it a better info portal with facts
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Oh, and if we were paying be able to have a proper moan at the mods instead of praising them up all the time.
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Yes. privileges that free members wouldn't get.Get rid of my embarrasing post count for a start, and be able to have a sensible chat sometimes .
this would be a start, also a few other things could be done, this would make ciu money and also make it a better info portal with facts
the " enhanced members " thing works in 2 ways , it creates a little money ( so yes thats the idea ), the members who feel they owe the forum something will pay a few quid, it also creates a "them and us" feeling, the payers think they are better than the non-payers, the non-payers realize this and play up to it thus creating a atmosphere
a portal is hardly going to rake in the money though, sell a few ad's etc etc
not being argumentative, just what i think
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Yes. privileges that free members wouldn't get.Get rid of my embarrasing post count for a start, and be able to have a sensible chat sometimes .
this would be a start, also a few other things could be done, this would make ciu money and also make it a better info portal with facts
the " enhanced members " thing works in 2 ways , it creates a little money ( so yes thats the idea ), the members who feel they owe the forum something will pay a few quid, it also creates a "them and us" feeling, the payers think they are better than the non-payers, the non-payers realize this and play up to it thus creating a atmosphere
a portal is hardly going to rake in the money though, sell a few ad's etc etc
not being argumentative, just what i think
Matt, I feel your judging on what you have done and not what can be done, there is a bigger picture out there and things can and will work and make money, I honestly think your mind is very closed to making money (i'm not attacking you by the way, just saying what I think
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More could be done with the clean it up brand.What an easy place to look for clean it up training courses, or to buy clean it up identity badges, or clean it up work clothes.
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ian you should go for it and get it
i vote big e (WW)
jerry
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Yes. privileges that free members wouldn't get.Get rid of my embarrasing post count for a start, and be able to have a sensible chat sometimes .
this would be a start, also a few other things could be done, this would make ciu money and also make it a better info portal with facts
the " enhanced members " thing works in 2 ways , it creates a little money ( so yes thats the idea ), the members who feel they owe the forum something will pay a few quid, it also creates a "them and us" feeling, the payers think they are better than the non-payers, the non-payers realize this and play up to it thus creating a atmosphere
a portal is hardly going to rake in the money though, sell a few ad's etc etc
not being argumentative, just what i think
Matt, I feel your judging on what you have done and not what can be done, there is a bigger picture out there and things can and will work and make money, I honestly think your mind is very closed to making money (i'm not attacking you by the way, just saying what I think
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ian
i have done it with various message boards, i have tried the "enhanced" membership idea, they used to get access to a members only area, bigger PM box, they could use a section of a server for uploads, it worked for a while, then the problems of them and us set in
i tried it on another board, same benefits with use of a arcade, free listings on a "advertisers area" ( a small auction script ), it also worked for a while
i have sold banners and adverts to suppliers
i honestly know how bigger forums tick, i al not saying i have all the answers or i am a expert, but i have run forums that have been bigger than CIU
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More could be done with the clean it up brand.What an easy place to look for clean it up training courses, or to buy clean it up identity badges, or clean it up work clothes.
thats the point, its not a brand to many, its a forum where people hang out and chat
yes i guess CIU could team up with a training company and sell training, training for what ? ?? ? H&S i guess, as window cleaning is sorted with Ironics and the NVQ guy who posts on here
ID badges ? ? ?
work cloths, price is king with that, people will go with the cheapest, not pay a extra 3 quid per T-shirt because it has a CIU badge on it
it appears i am just being negative here, i am not trying to be, i am just trying to be objective
i have asked ian for his ideas ( as i think you asked him for them as well slumpy )
i would love to know how this place will earn that much money
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Oh, and if we were paying be able to have a proper moan at the mods instead of praising them up all the time.
Have a proper moan anytime, i don't mind.
I have thick skin, go ahead.
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More could be done with the clean it up brand.What an easy place to look for clean it up training courses, or to buy clean it up identity badges, or clean it up work clothes.
thats the point, its not a brand to many, its a forum where people hang out and chat
yes i guess CIU could team up with a training company and sell training, training for what ? ?? ? H&S i guess, as window cleaning is sorted with Ironics and the NVQ guy who posts on here
ID badges ? ? ?
work cloths, price is king with that, people will go with the cheapest, not pay a extra 3 quid per T-shirt because it has a CIU badge on it
it appears i am just being negative here, i am not trying to be, i am just trying to be objective
i have asked ian for his ideas ( as i think you asked him for them as well slumpy )
i would love to know how this place will earn that much money
£1 a post :)
hire me i have great ideas!!
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After all, that advertising space has been available for ages now, and nobody has bothered to take it up. Eventually they had to put google ads on there, which says it all really.
I enquired about advertising in that slot and didn't get a reply. At the time I'm sure I'd have been prepared to pay more than the revenue Google ads generate.
A reasonable one-off fee to join for everyone would resolve the issue of a divide but the 'personality' of the site would completely change so it would be a risk.
It could easily go pear shaped because there are loads of cleaning forums out there already. Cleanitup attracts members because of the fast replies and that is thanks to the amount of members.
Paying would mean less members and slower replies and so less attraction.
There would need to be an incentive of sufficient value to justify the fee in the minds of potential members.
As Nat says the WCR forum (based in America and nothing to do with me by the way - they just pinched my name!) they have the right idea. Their site is imaginitive and cutting edge.
It's their use of video and podcasting that makes it unique and they tie that in with selling a wide range of products.
Whoever takes on the job would do well to learn from them.
That said, I don't think this site will make anyone rich. Especially as its shared profits and as said members come here to socialise not to buy.
To whoever takes on the job I reckon your best bet would be to build on the fun side of the site as if it were a virtual pub where friends hang out.
eg. you could pay £5 credits to buy 20 pints or something which you can then send to friends in public view. Games rooms and stuff like that.
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eg. you could pay £5 credits to buy 20 pints or something which you can then send to friends in public view. Games rooms and stuff like that.
could we also buy a virtual pool cue to wrap around ewans head in a virtual bar room brawl ? ? ? ?
now that would be a earner ;D ;D
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and virtual darts to throw back at ya...
Could get messy. Maybe its a bad idea after all.