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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: zodiac on December 08, 2009, 05:16:31 pm
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I tell you what I ve seen today
Some window cleaners !!!!!give bad name for wfc
3 man
4 house done least then 20 min
£ 12 each house
I couln't help my self to look up they work
Frames were so dirty
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£48 an hour each...not bad
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Hey Tolga
Think of it another way....you do a much better job and clean the frames etc so if you clean for any of the other neighbours they are likely to recommend you on.
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I tell you what I ve seen today
Some window cleaners !!!!!give bad name for wfc
3 man
4 house done least then 20 min
£ 12 each house
I couln't help my self to look up they work
Frames were so dirty
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got a call from a customer today "please can you look at my windows" i was in the area so no probs
looked like they had not been done in about six months.
then she says"the window cleaner has been calling for payment every two weeks" :o
she finally chased him today.....anyway i was totally astounded so i got the gear out and made them all sparkly for her ;D another new customer for me one less for the cowboys
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I tell you what I ve seen today
Some window cleaners !!!!!give bad name for wfc
3 man
4 house done least then 20 min
£ 12 each house
I couln't help my self to look up they work
Frames were so dirty
frames aside are you saying it took 3 men to do 4 houses in twenty minutes? ok so thats 48 squid between three times that by three thats a price of 48 quid an hour. fair play to them and why not. sometimes i hit that but mostly not. but remember if someone has had a trad cleaner that doesnt do frames for the last thirty years they are hardly going to worry when he goes wfp
were the windows clean?
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if thats what he is saying then those guys are cowboys!! No way can you do 4 houses in 20 mins, i dont care if there is 3 men!! Some round here where i live are giving the WFP a bad name too as they dont know how to use it, ive a woman onto me saying about a guy doing hers for £6 but not even doing the frames(how this can be done i have no idea) and he even manages to spray jets into the vents and the dirt just runs down them, he also manages to spray inside the house too but nevertheless she still is paying him along with half the park and why...............cos he lives in the same estate as them all, they dont want to offend, by feck im glad i dont have any in my park, maybe thats the reason why.
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if thats what he is saying then those guys are cowboys!! No way can you do 4 houses in 20 mins, i dont care if there is 3 men!! Some round here where i live are giving the WFP a bad name too as they dont know how to use it, ive a woman onto me saying about a guy doing hers for £6 but not even doing the frames(how this can be done i have no idea) and he even manages to spray jets into the vents and the dirt just runs down them, he also manages to spray inside the house too but nevertheless she still is paying him along with half the park and why...............cos he lives in the same estate as them all, they dont want to offend, by feck im glad i dont have any in my park, maybe thats the reason why.
how can you say you cant clean 4 houses in twenty minutes with three lads. you dont even know how big the housse is. me and my lad can do that easily on small two bed terraced and do the frames and doors. i pull the hose out and do the fronts its only 4 top windows and 4 livingroom windows and 4 doors. the lad goes round the back and its two up two down so 16 tiny windows with a backpack, it takes me about ten minutes and by the time ive got the reel and pole put away the lad is finnishing the back while i ticket the 4 house all well under 20 minutes
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i will just add i dont get anywhere near 12 quid just a fiver
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As I've said in a previous post, there is only one guy local to me who uses wfp, but I've heard from allot of people that there not happy with the results. I've had this from my own brother who had him do his place for a while and another local cleaner has told me he's heard the same. I even had it today when I was canvassing, one lady asked do you use one of those pole things, I told her that I don't, so she said "that's fine can you do them every month then".
Now I'm hoping to go wfp when funds allow, but it's not going to be easy convincing my customers as the've only heard they leave the windows streaky.
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3 Men 4 houses in twenty minutes should be a doddle assuming they are normal( if there is such a thing) 3 bed houses doing them trad let alone wfp. Each guy should easily be able to clean a house in 15 minutes so thats 3 out of the way then all three do the last in 5 minutes....just because they do not clean the frames they cannot be called cowboys, if the windows are bad then maybe but not because they are quicker than you.
How do you know each house is £12 anyway?
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if they good and quick like me :P lol,then they shud be able to do that no probs,dependin on how many windows they is,wen i work wid my mate theys 3 of us and we can fair fly thru terraced houses in no time,be we dont charge no where near £12 lol no i guess it depends on how much windows they are,and how easy the access is
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As I've said in a previous post, there is only one guy local to me who uses wfp, but I've heard from allot of people that there not happy with the results. I've had this from my own brother who had him do his place for a while and another local cleaner has told me he's heard the same. I even had it today when I was canvassing, one lady asked do you use one of those pole things, I told her that I don't, so she said "that's fine can you do them every month then".
Now I'm hoping to go wfp when funds allow, but it's not going to be easy convincing my customers as the've only heard they leave the windows streaky.
Its the operator murdie not the equipment(unless hes just got DI ONLY and doesnt bother checking the reading on the TDS every week)
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3 Men 4 houses in twenty minutes should be a doddle assuming they are normal( if there is such a thing) 3 bed houses doing them trad let alone wfp. Each guy should easily be able to clean a house in 15 minutes so thats 3 out of the way then all three do the last in 5 minutes....just because they do not clean the frames they cannot be called cowboys, if the windows are bad then maybe but not because they are quicker than you.
How do you know each house is £12 anyway?
Hi He told me
He said he has to earn £ 100
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As I've said in a previous post, there is only one guy local to me who uses wfp, but I've heard from allot of people that there not happy with the results. I've had this from my own brother who had him do his place for a while and another local cleaner has told me he's heard the same. I even had it today when I was canvassing, one lady asked do you use one of those pole things, I told her that I don't, so she said "that's fine can you do them every month then".
Now I'm hoping to go wfp when funds allow, but it's not going to be easy convincing my customers as the've only heard they leave the windows streaky.
Its the operator murdie not the equipment(unless hes just got DI ONLY and doesnt bother checking the reading on the TDS every week)
No disrespect dude but you really haven't a clue what your talking about. You are wearing nappies as far as wfp is concerened mate. You are certainly in no position to advise anybody or say what can or cannot be done. ;)
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As I've said in a previous post, there is only one guy local to me who uses wfp, but I've heard from allot of people that there not happy with the results. I've had this from my own brother who had him do his place for a while and another local cleaner has told me he's heard the same. I even had it today when I was canvassing, one lady asked do you use one of those pole things, I told her that I don't, so she said "that's fine can you do them every month then".
Now I'm hoping to go wfp when funds allow, but it's not going to be easy convincing my customers as the've only heard they leave the windows streaky.
Its the operator murdie not the equipment(unless hes just got DI ONLY and doesnt bother checking the reading on the TDS every week)
No disrespect dude but you really haven't a clue what your talking about. You are wearing nappies as far as wfp is concerened mate. You are certainly in no position to advise anybody or say what can or cannot be done. ;)
course he can,all he sed was he heard of a wc who uses wfp and he dus a bad job,it dus happen,i know wc who dunt use the wfp properly and the results are rubbish,same with trad wc,u do get sum cowboys and ones who dont do a good job,and wfp isnt exactly rocket science once u look into it and do research,it ull take a while to get used to it of course but still.
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As I've said in a previous post, there is only one guy local to me who uses wfp, but I've heard from allot of people that there not happy with the results. I've had this from my own brother who had him do his place for a while and another local cleaner has told me he's heard the same. I even had it today when I was canvassing, one lady asked do you use one of those pole things, I told her that I don't, so she said "that's fine can you do them every month then".
Now I'm hoping to go wfp when funds allow, but it's not going to be easy convincing my customers as the've only heard they leave the windows streaky.
Its the operator murdie not the equipment(unless hes just got DI ONLY and doesnt bother checking the reading on the TDS every week)
No disrespect dude but you really haven't a clue what your talking about. You are wearing nappies as far as wfp is concerened mate. You are certainly in no position to advise anybody or say what can or cannot be done. ;)
course he can,all he sed was he heard of a wc who uses wfp and he dus a bad job,it dus happen,i know wc who dunt use the wfp properly and the results are rubbish,same with trad wc,u do get sum cowboys and ones who dont do a good job,and wfp isnt exactly rocket science once u look into it and do research,it ull take a while to get used to it of course but still.
Neither are you.
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why not? jus because idont have one YET dusnt mean i avnt seen them in action and know wat to do with em,i have plenty of mates who have em and iv seen em bein used many of times,and iv seen the results of a bad wfp window cleaner,and of good,so yeh i am in a position thanks :)
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why not? jus because idont have one YET dusnt mean i avnt seen them in action and know wat to do with em,i have plenty of mates who have em and iv seen em bein used many of times,and iv seen the results of a bad wfp window cleaner,and of good,so yeh i am in a position thanks :)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Didn't mean to start an argument, there could be a number of reasons why I've heard of a few unhappy customers from this cleaner using wfp. I'm guessing that there are many more customers happy with the results.
All I was trying to say was, when I do eventualy get a system there are a number of folk in my town who appear to have a negative view on the results that can be delivered by cleaning with a pure water system.
The cleaner in question is a very well established window cleaner who seems to be doing very well for himself, so I'm pretty sure he knows how to use a tds metre.
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Didn't mean to start an argument, there could be a number of reasons why I've heard of a few unhappy customers from this cleaner using wfp. I'm guessing that there are many more customers happy with the results.
All I was trying to say was, when I do eventualy get a system there are a number of folk in my town who appear to have a negative view on the results that can be delivered by cleaning with a pure water system.
The cleaner in question is a very well established window cleaner who seems to be doing very well for himself, so I'm pretty sure he knows how to use a tds metre.
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well you did start an argument so go to the naughty corner ;D and well done cheers me up ;D ;D
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Dont think it was you murdie i think it was me he was having a pop at there or maybe both of us, you know whats what i hate, people who have been in the game alot longer having a pop at us newbies for 'trying our level best to do the job and do it RIGHT' I may be only at it since mid september but i feel im well enough qualified to do the job and do it to a satisfactory level, i dont care who you are theres no way you would do 4 houses in 20 mins and do the JOB RIGHT, not a hope, dont care how many lies you tell either its just not possible!!
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why not? jus because idont have one YET dusnt mean i avnt seen them in action and know wat to do with em,i have plenty of mates who have em and iv seen em bein used many of times,and iv seen the results of a bad wfp window cleaner,and of good,so yeh i am in a position thanks :)
I seen a plane in the sky the other day, dont mean I can fly it.
As for 3 guys doing 4 houses in 20 minutes, given the correct circumstances why not?
Lets say 10 windows on each house, that makes 40 windows. All the houses in the same street with no need to reel in between houses means each guy would have to do 13 windows each in 20 minutes; that doesnt seem anywhere near out of the ordinary from where Im sat.
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Dont think it was you murdie i think it was me he was having a pop at there or maybe both of us, you know whats what i hate, people who have been in the game alot longer having a pop at us newbies for 'trying our level best to do the job and do it RIGHT' I may be only at it since mid september but i feel im well enough qualified to do the job and do it to a satisfactory level, i dont care who you are theres no way you would do 4 houses in 20 mins and do the JOB RIGHT, not a hope, dont care how many lies you tell either its just not possible!!
yes you can ::) as i said it depends on the size of house
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well could our original poster please tell us how big these houses were and if they were trad or wfp men and if they done the job right!!! Thanks
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i,m wfp and have a guy working with me and 4 average houses close together in 20 mins is a doddle , if you ain,t hitting those sort of numbers your spending too long on each window, regular cleans onlyneed a quick brush and rinse regards alan
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I seen a plane in the sky the other day, dont mean I can fly it.quote.
think window cleanin is a little bit easier to greasp than flyin a plane dont u think,the first time u ever shaved as a lad for example..not rocket science,once uv sin sum1 do it it pretty easy to grasp,u know wat i mean,cleaning a window with a pole isnt hard to understand once uv looked into it,so i dont see why sum people make a big deal and because sum1 hasnt bin doin as long as they have,they tlk as if we know nothin,dus my head in man. i bin window cleanin for 4 years now for cryin out loud.
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Matt mean't if some bumpkin who'd used a scythe all his life saw a combine harvest a field in a few hours he'd be staggered and disbelieving.Many wouldn't even know what they were looking at. It's ideas wayno, not just one, but several and all used together.These guys hit a ton an hour and they don't really care what anyone else thinks.
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im not stickin up for these guys,im tlkin about that macmac tellin me and another guy that we dont know wat we tlkin about wen it comes to wfp,wen really we do coz it not rocket science at the end of the day,that wat im gettin at.
if these guys were doin houses that we £12.5 per house and doin 4 every 15mins between 3 of em,then i find it hard to believe,around where i work they be no chance of em achievin that if they did a good job,but if it an average house but sumhow they got really gud prices on em then fair enuff,good on em,we cud do with sum pics of these type of houses they were doin then everyone will know wat we dealin wid.
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English please
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I seen a plane in the sky the other day, dont mean I can fly it.quote.
think window cleanin is a little bit easier to greasp than flyin a plane dont u think,the first time u ever shaved as a lad for example..not rocket science,once uv sin sum1 do it it pretty easy to grasp,u know wat i mean,cleaning a window with a pole isnt hard to understand once uv looked into it,so i dont see why sum people make a big deal and because sum1 hasnt bin doin as long as they have,they tlk as if we know nothin,dus my head in man. i bin window cleanin for 4 years now for cryin out loud.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......................................................................................................................................No, still not qualified. ;)
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that better.....sorry i forgot u had to have the mind of a genius to be a window cleaner,because after all, cleaning windows is mind boggling stuff ::) :-\
cleanin windows with a pole...not exactly universaty material is it lol
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1Wayno, when you go to price a new place up, do you ever sometimes get 'that feeling' about them as potential customers?
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that better.....sorry i forgot u had to have the mind of a genius to be a window cleaner,because after all, cleaning windows is mind boggling stuff ::) :-\
cleanin windows with a pole...not exactly universaty material is it lol
No mate, that's why this forum has tens of thousands of posts relating to wfp problems! ;)
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yeh but we are tlkin about usin it,as in time n tech of it,not probs with pumps n vessels n tanks and stuff,this topic was on about 3 guys doin 4 house in 15mins at 12.5 each,sum people sayin it possible,sum dont agree,and jus coz i dont have a wfp dunt mean i dont have a clue on how to use one and how quick u can use and the results u get from em...but u seem to think otherwise and i cant understand why personally. jus coz people dont have a wfp dunt mean u have to look down em all the time,and dunt mean they dont know wat they tlkin about about.u dont have to have one to see the results of them,and to see how fast u can use it,and see the tech of it.
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another round of its the Muppet show.
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I'm just back home after taking my daughter to the pantomime, but this thread is proving to be a bit more entertaining ;D
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sorry jus think it out of order how sum people look down on sum people,i hope im not so up my own backside wen i get a wfp.
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I dont think theyre looking down on you Wayne, just speaking from experience.
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No disrespect dude but you really haven't a clue what your talking about. You are wearing nappies as far as wfp is concerened mate. You are certainly in no position to advise anybody or say what can or cannot be done. ;)
u sayin that not lookin down on sum1,like i sed,u dont have to have a wfp to comment on this topic,u dont have to have a wfp to see the results from them,to know how quick windows can be done with em,and to know wat tech u use,that wat im gettin at.
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wayno you sound like a decent guy and yes wfp isnt rocket science.
i am 38 and been cleaning windows since i was thirteen and a few other jobs in between. but when i started on wfp i hadent a clue and it was the only reason i found forums as i can honestly say i dont have any questions on ladder work.
but back to the origanal post the price doesnt matter whether its 12.50 or 3.50 but how can anybody call anybody a cowboy because they can do 4 houses in 20 minutes is beyond me especially as there is three lads on the job. also i know it wasnt you but to be called a lyer because i said it can be done easily and i would add it can be done from the ladder in that time also not just wfp. now if the guys made a mess and missed windows etc there cowboys. but the post didnt say that
and to jdeasy reach if you dont believe it can be done and done properly come with me for a day and me and my lad will do it easily and i am sure i can find a few that can match that with ladder as well. however as i said the price is irrelevant its the size or amount of windows that count along with access etc
dont know if any that made sense but it does to me
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why not? jus because idont have one YET dusnt mean i avnt seen them in action and know wat to do with em,
Yeah. Watching a porno film makes me a good lover :)
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Thats not what I heard ;D ;D ;D
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i,m with you on that
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Thats not what I heard ;D ;D ;D
Oh no. Tosh told you then ;D
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Blimey ;D ;D
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sorry jus think it out of order how sum people look down on sum people,i hope im not so up my own backside wen i get a wfp.
No one's looking down on anyone. Just stating the truth for the benefit of others. I've been driving for 20 years but wouldn't dream of telling formula 1 test drivers what can & can't be done in a racing car as I wouldn't be far enough up my own arse to assume I actually could! ;)
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4 house, 3 blokes, 20 mins that would be a breeze, I bet if it was 4 houses in 20 mins with 3 blokes charging £5 the thread wouldnt of been started, the blokes priced well
£12.50 a house (probs had a minimum charge), 12 houses a hour, £150 a hour, pays his lads £20, £130 to the business, good on him at least someone has there price structure sorted ;)
It baffles me how a non wfp window cleaner can even state people that are wfp that there lying, tell you what when you go wfp you let us know and ill let you come do my windows and prove youll leave them spot free ;D
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I tell you what I ve seen today
Some window cleaners !!!!!give bad name for wfc
3 man
4 house done least then 20 min
£ 12 each house
I couln't help my self to look up they work
Frames were so dirty
It sounds to me like they were just getting stuck into their days work and not sat on their arse watching others!!!!!.
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I tell you what I ve seen today
Some window cleaners !!!!!give bad name for wfc
3 man
4 house done least then 20 min
£ 12 each house
I couln't help my self to look up they work
Frames were so dirty
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It sounds to me like they were just getting stuck into their days work and not sat on their arse watching others!!!!!.
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im not sayin they cudnt do it,my mate has priced these 6 houses up at £9 each and it only takes him an hour to do,if they are good and hard workin windows cleaners and they got a good price for the houses then yes it can easily be done,and good luck to em. when it comes to wfp setups ups and all that kinda stuff,then fair enuff im not ashamed to say i dont av a clue bout that,coz i dont,but knwin how quick they are,and the results they produce,then i do av a clue about that,and that wat this topic is about,so i dont see the reason for some people to say to other u dont know wat ur tlkin about wen really they do is this instance,that wat i mean,i dont have a ferrari,dusnt mean i cant say its a good car,and how fast it is,u know wat i mean,i am a nice guy normally wunt kick off over anythin like this lol must be that time of the month lol
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when all is said and done... regardless of how quick, if the windows are dirty....... then those guys get the bad name...no one else...
then eventually we get them houses and show them how its done...customer happy..we happy.... and another dodgy cleaner bites the dust and gets a bad reputation.
its good that they are around really...!
i like it. just like i like the summer brigade... i get lots of their customers when they go back to their dole jobs. ;D ;D
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im not sayin they cudnt do it,my mate has priced these 6 houses up at £9 each and it only takes him an hour to do,if they are good and hard workin windows cleaners and they got a good price for the houses then yes it can easily be done,and good luck to em. when it comes to wfp setups ups and all that kinda stuff,then fair enuff im not ashamed to say i dont av a clue bout that,coz i dont,but knwin how quick they are,and the results they produce,then i do av a clue about that,and that wat this topic is about,so i dont see the reason for some people to say to other u dont know wat ur tlkin about wen really they do is this instance,that wat i mean,i dont have a ferrari,dusnt mean i cant say its a good car,and how fast it is,u know wat i mean,i am a nice guy normally wunt kick off over anythin like this lol must be that time of the month lol
And breathe ...
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sorry dudes,im a bit cranky atm,tryin to quit smokin,provin harder than i thought,so yeh,sorry for bein a woman lol
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sorry dudes,im a bit cranky atm,tryin to quit smokin,provin harder than i thought,so yeh,sorry for bein a woman lol
Wait 'till you go wfp, quitting the fAgs will seem a doddle!! ;D ;D ;)
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Wayno, what you say makes sense (sort of in a pidgeon way ;D), but this is why you come on the forum, you can hit £15 ph, or you can have a business. The thing is to leave room in your thinking to consider you might be wrong. I am often wrong about stuff (well actually not as often as you might think), but the point is that sticking with the program can earn you a lot of money wayno, and you might as well have some while you are still young.Good luck to you.
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wow sorry for disagreeing here lads, that said the original poster has yet to fill us in on how big the houses were and if they used wfp or trad or both? Oh and if the houses are in a row maybe just maybe it could have been done if maintenance cleans BUT if they are all separate houses theres no way you could go around them in that time, i dont think so anyway. It takes me 15 minutes on a maintenance clean on my own with wfp so 3 guys would take at least 30 mins on 4 houses thats taking moving from house to house into account too :) Not starting a row here lads just giving my opinion.
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like i sed my mate does 6 house at £9 each in an hour usin trad methods,so it can easily be done,dependin on the size of the houses and how gud of a price they got em for,but yeh we cud do with a pic so we got a better idea of the size of the houses and wether it possible or not in that time :)
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whether or not u can do so many houses an hour blah!blah!is irrelevent!if u do a consistently bad job u will lose the work anyway in time!i picked up my first custy for 2 months yesterday who did have a wfpoler and she was not happy with the results.i keep hearing this time after time about WFP.its getting a bad name all over the country on domestics.ITS UP TO ME TO GET A SYSTEM WHERE I WORK AND SHOW THEM WFP IS SAFER,A MORE THOROUGH CLEAN ETC,ETC.ive got a good reputation for doing a good job,reliable and trustworthy.AND to convince them that wfp is perfectly acceptable for cleaning windows!ill have the best of both worlds as im already a fast accompished trad cleaner.maybe ill wfp tops only at first and trad the bottoms til they get used to the idea!train the custys up to WFP! ;D ;D
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could wfp be getting a bad name as people are rushing to get jobs done, to earn loads of money, as they can use the excuse 2- 3 cleans to get spot less
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yeh i agree,wfp is gettin a bad name,and im gettin one nxt year,i think these guys were jus rushin to get the work dun faster =more money,but if they carry on like that,they are bound to start loosin work,im considered a fast trad window cleaner,but the results i produce cant be beaten,as long as you do a good job that all that counts :) i do think wfp is gettin a bad name coz of people tryin to rush they work to earn more money,i think the wfp is good and the results can be jus as good as trad but only if u use it properly and take ur time espec on the first couple of cleans,if u rush it and do a bad job,ur only makin a bad name for urself,and in this game that the last thing u want :)
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could wfp be getting a bad name as people are rushing to get jobs done, to earn loads of money, as they can use the excuse 2- 3 cleans to get spot less
Quite possibly. The trouble is, there's that many variable situations where wfp is concerned that's why the subject is so huge & a constant topic on here.
The general assumption that wfp is twice as fast & twice as lucrative as trad is not fact, although that is what seems to get shoved down peoples throats. So, I for one can see why a newbie wfp'er would go flat out to try to acheive what he thinks is the norm & what he has been led to beleive.
Only time & experience will learn you where wfp is "the tool to use" as in the real world where wfp is concerned speed, perfect results & all the other tripe that goes along with it is not always acheivable!
This is why I can say that a wfp'er with only a couple of months experience can't tell for sure what is what!
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i dont believe just doing a good job is all that counts at all on domestics!i believe trust,reliability and friendliness sometimes count more !!it does help if u can clean to a reasonable standard as well though i suppose!! ;) ;)
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i dont believe just doing a good job is all that counts at all on domestics!i believe trust,reliability and friendliness sometimes count more !!it does help if u can clean to a reasonable standard as well though i suppose!! ;) ;)
yeh i know wat u mean,i have a really gud customer relation on my rounds,iv made a few cock ups before and the customers are fine with it coz im honest and reliable with them,and i have a good laff with quite a few of em wen i go round,that how u get they trust and loyalty,that why im not bothered if sum1 trys leafletin on my work coz i know none of my custies ull switch even if they offered a cheaper price :)
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i dont believe just doing a good job is all that counts at all on domestics!i believe trust,reliability and friendliness sometimes count more !!it does help if u can clean to a reasonable standard as well though i suppose!! ;) ;)
Agreed, I've picked plenty of work up from w/c'ers who did a good job but were a***oles! ;D
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i dont believe just doing a good job is all that counts at all on domestics!i believe trust,reliability and friendliness sometimes count more !!it does help if u can clean to a reasonable standard as well though i suppose!! ;) ;)
this is also true, weather wfp or trad, how many times have u left windows clean and with in 24 hours they are dirty again, u have no control over this, i have only every had one problem with wfp and that was because it left windows wet, she was a pain, i have had a few cancel, with crap excuses, that could of been down to wfp, i will never know
over all custys are happy with wfp, as they want clean windows, i think a lot of wfp problems are in the wc mind
f the gov decided that all ladders will be banned, no exceptions, and the trad guys used a pole, u would end up with the arguement what is best trad pole or wfp
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regarding the speed question, how many times have you done a house and thought that was quick and then done a other one and took ages, everything in the end evens it self out,
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i dont think that ladders ull get banned,il be happy usin both wfp and trad methods,i like them both and it good to give the custie the option jus in case
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even if ladders get banned, which they wont as its not viable, who the hell would police it and make sure your not using them?
Ive been WFP for about 2 months now from a backpack, i should have my van set up running this week. I still do the odd one trad but there is no way i would switch back to full trad as i personally find wfp safer, quicker, as good as quality and also a lot easier on my body.
when i made the switch i gave all of my customers a letter expalining how it worked and also how they have the option to switch back to trad if they didnt like the way it worked, every single one of my customers loves the new way especially as they now also get their frames cleaned and that im now less likely to fall off my ladders and hurt myself.
I have a brilliant relationship with all of my customers due to me always having time to stop for a chat or do them favours like fix leaking gutters. I go out of my way to make sure the customers are happy and this shows with the way they treat me, i have had other cleaners try and come onto the estates i do and they are swiftly told where to go by all of them.
If you dont do your job properly and listen to your customers then someone else will.
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even if ladders get banned, which they wont as its not viable, who the hell would police it and make sure your not using them?
Ive been WFP for about 2 months now from a backpack, i should have my van set up running this week. I still do the odd one trad but there is no way i would switch back to full trad as i personally find wfp safer, quicker, as good as quality and also a lot easier on my body.
when i made the switch i gave all of my customers a letter expalining how it worked and also how they have the option to switch back to trad if they didnt like the way it worked, every single one of my customers loves the new way especially as they now also get their frames cleaned and that im now less likely to fall off my ladders and hurt myself.
I have a brilliant relationship with all of my customers due to me always having time to stop for a chat or do them favours like fix leaking gutters. I go out of my way to make sure the customers are happy and this shows with the way they treat me, i have had other cleaners try and come onto the estates i do and they are swiftly told where to go by all of them.
If you dont do your job properly and listen to your customers then someone else will.
right on sister! lol
i think i still will enjoyin doin 50/50 trad and wfp,i like trad methods jus as much as wfp,so dont think id wanna give it up completly,but who knows,this time next year i mite have lol