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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ccmids on December 08, 2009, 04:28:59 pm
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i'm going to fit a immersion heater to my tank has anyone done this?
idea being , i turn it on 1/2 hour before i start work to get warm water .
about £2000
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u have to get a 12v of ebay, in theory it would work, i looked at doing it a few months ago, but couldnt be bothered, some say that you should heat the water after its been in the pump, but i am not sure on this
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I've done it on my static tank and transfer warm water to my truck on very cold mornings. I posted a thread on it a while back now.
Simon.
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could it melt the tank its 1/4 " thick
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come on people this is an interesting thread HAS ANYONE DONE IT? could be a great way to go hot!
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hi lee looks like i'll have to buy a proper heater :)
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hi lee looks like i'll have to buy a proper heater :)
i dont know, this could be a winner.
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i was wondering if i could plumb the heater of my van through a coil in tank to heat the water ?
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it can be done, its just like an immersion tank in a house, but for safety you will have to have warm water and not hot, unless u want to put a metal tank in ur van
ur just have to drill a small hole in side of tank, put immersion in, seal it up properly and switch it on, the heat you will get off a 12v, will take a while to get the water up to temp i think
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i'm going to fit a immersion heater to my tank has anyone done this?
idea being , i turn it on 1/2 hour before i start work to get warm water .
about £2000
Why does it cost £2000 ?
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if you look on varitech site they are called heatwave thermo and they are £2.295.00 each. varitech systems
type in your pc varitech catalogue 2009-3
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u could probably do it ur self for less than 100
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no jokes please , how
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You will need to couple this eberspacher to a stainless steel heat exchanger and pump the cold water through it and then on out to the brush.
There is a thread by someone who has done this on this forum and he has a picture of his conversion. Not a Varitech unit, but then nowhere near their price either.
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=75428.0
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what size tank do you have, as this will determine what u need and how long it will take to warm up
if it was me, i would drill a hole in the side of the tank connect immersion, wire up to battery and switch it on, then get battery wired up to alt on van so that it is on charge, or have immersion wired to a battery on its own
depending on ur tank size, depends on how many immersions u need
in theroy its the same as a ele towel rail, but much bigger
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something like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-VOLT-WATER-HEATER-IMMERSION-Element-solar-wind-12v-V_W0QQitemZ180296624112QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air?hash=item29fa8427f0
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O sent a question to the bloke who sells these 12v one a while ago now and he said no way would it heat the amount of water wea re talking about. I was asking about 650 litres at the time.
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I know its changing the thread a bit, but does it heat the water to 70 degrees, and apart from the obvious, quicker , better for cleaning etc, is it worth the extra ?
idealrob
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its a case of finding the one that does, if he has to put 4 in to do what is what i would do if i was on a budget,
for all we know he might just have a 250 tank, will work,, just the time it will take,
i would put 4 of the 700 watt ones in and run them of a separate battery
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if you want a cheaper option, insualte the tank, and fill with hot water every morning from the house, good insulation should last most of the day
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something like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-VOLT-WATER-HEATER-IMMERSION-Element-solar-wind-12v-V_W0QQitemZ180296624112QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air?hash=item29fa8427f0
I dont mean to be overly critical and maybe I have got this completely wrong, but that 12v heater aint gonna touch a 400 litre tank of water surely.
If it could heat a tank of water that size then why do we have the dogs danglies immersions in domestic tanks in our houses? Surely because you need something with some balls to heat water?
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In fact according to the figures published on the ebay page its gonna take something like 4 days to heat a 400 litre tank buy 35 degrees using the 600W element.
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if all you want is to stop your water freezing when it gets cold i cant see the problem with buying the element from ebay. Get another leisure battery and put it on for an hour before you start and keep it on for a while. Im going to try that
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Hi someone told me you could use a L 5 Shower Heater ,looks good on the web!!!!
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this is an arguement that can go on for years, if it is just to stop the water freezing then them elements would be fine, personally i would just fill up with hot water in the morning, as i fill up in the morning anyway now,
it all depends if the water he wants is warm, or hot, depends on which way to go
something like this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-VOLT-WATER-HEATER-IMMERSION-Element-solar-wind-12v-V_W0QQitemZ180296624112QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air?hash=item29fa8427f0
I dont mean to be overly critical and maybe I have got this completely wrong, but that 12v heater aint gonna touch a 400 litre tank of water surely.
If it could heat a tank of water that size then why do we have the dogs danglies immersions in domestic tanks in our houses? Surely because you need something with some balls to heat water?
they are that big, so that they heat a tank 20 - 30 mins, when needed
you could put an immersion tank (out of a house) in the back of your van, and rig up an immersion coil, to a plug and plug it in 30 mins before you leave in morning, that will give you hot water all day
could try an ele shower unit out of a camper van, that might work, heat the water as needed
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its a 500ltr tank in the back of my van.
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y do you want, is it just to stop it freezing or so you can use hot water on windows
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If you plan on killing yourself then use 240v with water, just get some insurance first.
Secondly you will, unless you DI after the tank, need to get a special type of immersion as the regular ones will send the DI skyward, dont ask me why.
Anything running off 12v will need a battery the size of the van to generate enough power to raise the temp of the water.
If you go for gas heating check out the regs on carrying gas as they are quite prohibitive.
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has anyone ever added a water heater to the system they have, if so whats the best way for me, would you buy one at £2000 and more or try diy .
if diy whats the best way , i've thought of heating the water buy re routing the hot water from the heater in my van which would go through a coil in the tank then heat water.
or fit 240 volt immersion to tank switch on for 1/2 hour and heat it that way.
the 12 volt immersion are no good like someone said it would take a long time to heat a 500 ltr tank.
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has anyone ever added a water heater to the system they have, if so whats the best way for me, would you buy one at £2000 and more or try diy .
if diy whats the best way , i've thought of heating the water buy re routing the hot water from the heater in my van which would go through a coil in the tank then heat water.
or fit 240 volt immersion to tank switch on for 1/2 hour and heat it that way.
the 12 volt immersion are no good like someone said it would take a long time to heat a 500 ltr tank.
that wouldnt work ,not enough heat . even if you drove the van 1ooo miles it would have the same effect as dropping a single lighted match into Lake Windermere
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if you type this in youtube hot-backback this bloke has done it on smaller scale.