Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on December 07, 2009, 11:10:36 am
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my moment of madness has passed!......................
1.hose up the stairs to bath tap for fillin up/or mums/girlfriends.
2.custys will love me cleaning ALL frames/sills/doors AND windows above the conservatory!
3.a more thorough clean first time.technique will improve as i gain experience!
4.easier on the body and safer(especially with the SLX!)
5.MAKE MORE MONEY OVER TIME DUE TO INCREASED WORK/MORE SERVICES AS MENTIONED ABOVE!
6.have spares at the ready(connectors/pump/poles etc)
7.increased overheads/water bills/resin/poles etc but easily covered and tax deductable
8. ITS A NO BRAINER!!! ;D ;D 8) 8)
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We all have moments of madness Daz. You have made the right decision, and in time you'll be on here encouraging people like Stan ;D to make the move, you'll have the evidence yourself and thats all you'll need to know what is right.
Now its all exciting stuff, good for you.
Matt
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Good man, welcome to the dark side.
The trads among us will still try to lure you back by telling you that we've all lied about the benefits of wfp and that trad does a better job, etc, etc, yawn, yawn, but the simple TRUTH is that wfp is a damm good tool that, ONCE MASTERED, offers a finish easily comparible to trad, without the need to climb ladders. You WILL pick up more work simply because you'll be able to cater for higher windows, you WILL earn more money in time simply because this method is a whole lot quicker than trad and you WILL look back and curse the fact that you took so long to make the switch in the first place.
Now, go earn lots of money ;D
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every area of my business has had a good overhaul.already this year i will have made roughly 5grand more than last year!and thats trad!with getting better paid work and pricing higher.lots of things have opened my mind on this forum in the last 9 months.im now debt free and ready to save up and invest in WFP.im 38 now so still plenty of time to build a better business!15 yrs trad and 320 custys.so ive got the base to crack on from here!!ive also been used to using poles but the extension trad type for years so no probs there!just time to get on with it! ;D ;D
thanks guys for all the input.(if squeaky can do it so can i!!)
dazmond
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dazmond
another thing to encouarge you to make the swap is the fact that you been cleaning most custy 15years trad.they trust you and want a good reiable service which you supply.
if you tell them that to trust you with the switch over 99% of them will.tell them the truth that you well encounter problems when switching over,but you are learning it and to trust you with it.also tell them that in the long run it will be worth it to them.
just my thoughts
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dazmond
it can be alot of faffing about
just because the CIU feel you should, it doesnt mean its right for you
if your happy trad then thats a massive plus
i use WFP because of the safety side of it, thats it
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Daz, at last!
Here are a couple of tips I used when changing over.
I told all my custies that I was thinking of the change but had to balance the expense of it against my safety and the health and safety side
I then told them that I was going to change and would not put their price up if they agreed to stay with me for the first three cleans. I advised that it may take two or three cleans to get them flawless. I also told them after the third clean they could change back to trad if they were unhappy with any aspect of water fed.
Lastly I went the biggest gob on the round (we have all got one!) and told her what was going to happen, told her of the first three cleans ect and was met with the expected negative response. She did agree and I cleaned them 3 times over 2 days. Morning 1st clean, end of that day and then at the end of the second day. When I called on the third day to check them she gave me 3 names and addresses of her friends local to her as she was that impressed.
I had at the time 180 customers and since wfp I have now 325 and work the exact same hours as before.
I did hate it the first month as I spent too much time worrying about what people were thinking about the new system, the truth was as long as their windows were clean, they were happy.
I lost two custies and could not get two to come up good, these I passed to a trad cleaner.
Sincerely good luck.
Lee
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cheers lee!ive got 320 custys.some that ive been doing for 15 yrs!so i think most will stay with me.but just warn them that it usually takes 3 cleans to get them up to scratch as ur cleaning the frames etc as well?
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He might change his mind again though ;D
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every area of my business has had a good overhaul.already this year i will have made roughly 5grand more than last year!and thats trad!with getting better paid work and pricing higher.lots of things have opened my mind on this forum in the last 9 months.im now debt free and ready to save up and invest in WFP.im 38 now so still plenty of time to build a better business!15 yrs trad and 320 custys.so ive got the base to crack on from here!!ive also been used to using poles but the extension trad type for years so no probs there!just time to get on with it! ;D ;D
thanks guys for all the input.(if squeaky can do it so can i!!)
dazmond
Nice one daz although younger i am similar to you, been building up the last year or 2 with trad and am doubling my money year on year the next logical step is wfp so i am looking forward to your updates on how it going
i use it for some domestic and most commercial but still 90 % of our workload isnt changed i did have a trailer a while back but that didnt work out
im currently saving for a van mount (not got van yet :) ) will then be changing over 100 % to a 2 man syatem (have a part time helper)
my main reason is my helper does downstairs as i dont want him falling off a ladder, so his input is limited whereas 2 of us wfp i know that even f i dont do more speedwise the fact that we can both do a house each or back front etc means my earnings should really jump pretty quick and accelerate rapidly also van mount will be faster on the stuff i already do wfp with backpacks etc
good choice mate
let us know how it goes
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I'm proud of you for being a man and taking the right move. ;D unlike stan who still has a leather and bucket and that old bike , penny farthing i think its called ;D
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I'm proud of you for being a man and taking the right move. ;D unlike stan who still has a leather and bucket and that old bike , penny farthing i think its called ;D
come on stan..waiting for your answer!!! ;D ;D
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i dont think hes on yet .
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just put the ladders away ;D ;D
must say im disappointed with my fellow Lancastrian ;D ;D
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my moment of madness has passed!......................
1.hose up the stairs to bath tap for fillin up/or mums/girlfriends.
2.custys will love me cleaning ALL frames/sills/doors AND windows above the conservatory!
3.a more thorough clean first time.technique will improve as i gain experience!
4.easier on the body and safer(especially with the SLX!)
5.MAKE MORE MONEY OVER TIME DUE TO INCREASED WORK/MORE SERVICES AS MENTIONED ABOVE!
6.have spares at the ready(connectors/pump/poles etc)
7.increased overheads/water bills/resin/poles etc but easily covered and tax deductable
8. ITS A NO BRAINER!!! ;D ;D 8) 8)
Good. Don't expect to be quicker at first with WFP though. It can be slower for a while until you adapt. I think I really started benefitting from the extra speed on the third time around. At first, you may think you've made a big mistake. You haven't. You're just re-learning your round.
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only joking stan ;D
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only joking stan ;D
wish i did have a penny farthing it would be worth a few bob ;D
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A picture of Stan and his mate, taken yesturday:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/tosh0987/bff27763.jpg)
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A picture of Stan and his mate, taken yesturday:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/tosh0987/bff27763.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
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well done daz, my words helped then ;D
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And when you switch tell them that you have no option with these EEC regulations, and your insurance company refusing to insure you for ladders.
Make out that you are being dragged by the nuts into the 21st century, by a bunch of bureaucrats that wouldn't know their ass from their elbow. Blame the EEC, it works every time.
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And follow that up with 'any window-cleaner that works off ladders is breaking the law from now on' ;)
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hi daz do you think three hundred and odd is enough custys to start wfp ive been thinking of going down that rout but with a small round i think its luxury i cant afford at the moment cant loose any custys at the moment ive been droping hints got a bit of a bad feed back from a dozen .any way good luck imay have ashot in summer when iget afew more victims oops custys ;D
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320 custys keeps me busy most of the time!ive got quite a few bigger houses than just 3 bedders,flats etc.a good mixture.from most of the posts on ere u wont loose many if u tell em itll take a few cleans to get em good.especially if u take ur time on the first clean.ive been cleaning a lot of mine for years so i think their give it a few months to see if they come REALLY good(eg frames sparkling!) ;) ;)
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hi daz do you think three hundred and odd is enough custys to start wfp ive been thinking of going down that rout but with a small round i think its luxury i cant afford at the moment cant loose any custys at the moment ive been droping hints got a bit of a bad feed back from a dozen .any way good luck imay have ashot in summer when iget afew more victims oops custys ;D
you dont think 300 custys is enough, i would think thats plenty to have on your books, anymore and you would be running yourself into the ground, why kill yourself?
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i agree but you always get a few moaning gits i must of picked up at least 12 from custys unhappy with wfp all from a wide area in the the last couple of months so to all those doubting tomases its not always rosey in the garden im sure some will agree happy ;D days with wot ever method
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hi daz do you think three hundred and odd is enough custys to start wfp ive been thinking of going down that rout but with a small round i think its luxury i cant afford at the moment cant loose any custys at the moment ive been droping hints got a bit of a bad feed back from a dozen .any way good luck imay have ashot in summer when iget afew more victims oops custys ;D
you dont think 300 custys is enough, i would think thats plenty to have on your books, anymore and you would be running yourself into the ground, why kill yourself?
can never have to many,if you have you sell them on ;D ;D