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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jackal on November 28, 2009, 11:43:02 am
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is it best to use spikes on a driveway that slopes as bit worried about doing a house next week with one for first time its block paved got the spikes but not fitted them to the ladder yet advice anyone please
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I used to use laddermats for this sort of stuff; google for them. I've never used spikes, so I can't really comment on their suitability.
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if you can drive up to the windows in question i would use your van as a ladder support put your ladder against one of your van tyresi know its a bit tricky on pavers best to safe then sorry mate!!! 8)
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Jakal, just make sure you don't take any risks. If you feel unsafe, you probably are. There's nothing wrong with missing 'dodgy windows' and knocking a pro-rata amount off from the price of the clean.
Also be extremely cautious with decking at this time of year; its like an ice rink.
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so is concrete thats going green
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TOSH i can almost visualize you like a ballarina on skates !! i agree with the decking though gone a few times meself
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Is it short duration work with no practicable alternative method of cleaning?
Could you use a trad pole instead?
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get yourself a wfpole and omnipole backpack just to do the tops got mine from ebay cheap you will never look back!!just easier in the long run total cost £400
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I used to use laddermats for this sort of stuff; google for them. I've never used spikes, so I can't really comment on their suitability.
Tosh, laddermats are lethal with anything but dry tarmac. I've had one of the worst ladders slips with them on slippery ground.
Ladder M8rix is what you want :
http://www.ladderm8.co.uk/about.htm
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Purchase a ROJAK Stopper, just the ticket. Similar to the one above but probably cheaper IMO.
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Purchase a ROJAK Stopper, just the ticket. Similar to the one above but probably cheaper IMO.
Ive never found them to be any good - they just slip too.
nearly had an expensive accident using those on a internal conny roof clean.
If its outdoor id use a set of ladder limpets
(http://www.laddatec.com/images/gallery/large/1.jpg)
http://www.laddatec.com/index.htm
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I was told the safe use of ladders, your chest shouldn't be higher than the top rung.
May of been ill informed.
Matt
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Purchase a ROJAK Stopper, just the ticket. Similar to the one above but probably cheaper IMO.
Ive never found them to be any good - they just slip too.
nearly had an expensive accident using those on a internal conny roof clean.
If its outdoor id use a set of ladder limpets
(http://www.laddatec.com/images/gallery/large/1.jpg)
http://www.laddatec.com/index.htm
Same here if I have to use my ladders then its the ladder limpet all the way
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is it best to use spikes on a driveway that slopes as bit worried about doing a house next week with one for first time its block paved got the spikes but not fitted them to the ladder yet advice anyone please
i use spikes and the only thing id not use them on is polished concrete . as yours are new theyll be sharp and if i was you id fit them on ,definitely
has anybody ever seen spikes slip?
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I was told the safe use of ladders, your chest shouldn't be higher than the top rung.
May of been ill informed.
Matt
(that picture above is from the ladder limpet website)
you should always maintain 3 points of contact and not be stood on the top 2 rungs.
so really the stiles/rungs should be available to grasp to keep that 3 points of contact at all times - so that depends on how long your arms are ;) Great if your an ladder orang-utan! ;D
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/e/ea/Orang-Utan-Parkkonen.jpg/115px-Orang-Utan-Parkkonen.jpg)
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is it best to use spikes on a driveway that slopes as bit worried about doing a house next week with one for first time its block paved got the spikes but not fitted them to the ladder yet advice anyone please
i use spikes and the only thing id not use them on is polished concrete . as yours are new theyll be sharp and if i was you id fit them on ,definitely
has anybody ever seen spikes slip?
so you have also used spikes for sloped drives aswell jonnyald?, as for other comments i no you should do everything possible to stay safe but when your just starting out its hard to find the cash for some extras like the wfp and would like buy the limpets as they look a really good safety feature but again need make some money first
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is it best to use spikes on a driveway that slopes as bit worried about doing a house next week with one for first time its block paved got the spikes but not fitted them to the ladder yet advice anyone please
i use spikes and the only thing id not use them on is polished concrete . as yours are new theyll be sharp and if i was you id fit them on ,definitely
has anybody ever seen spikes slip?
so you have also used spikes for sloped drives aswell jonnyald?, as for other comments i no you should do everything possible to stay safe but when your just starting out its hard to find the cash for some extras like the wfp and would like buy the limpets as they look a really good safety feature but again need make some money first
As a member of this or the wfp training academy forum you can get a 10% discount off the ladder limpet, you need the code that the mods should have
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jackal, my spikes are never taken off my ladder and iv used them on green decking . they dig into the wood a bit but hey so what .
if your blockpaving has a groove between the blocks thats where id put the spikes . i cant remember sloping block paving but i do rtemember a pathway that sloped made of black and white floor tiles and i had no problem . fits your spikes tomoro and try em out jackal
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spikes will be great but if unsure put your ladder in the corner of the window theen the 2 stiles arnt both facing down the slope but are across it so you are safer
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if in doubt i use a trad pole.i do have a rojak i use sometimes.better safe than sorry.i use the pole a lot in winter due to mossy/wet surfaces.
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is it best to use spikes on a driveway that slopes as bit worried about doing a house next week with one for first time its block paved got the spikes but not fitted them to the ladder yet advice anyone please
As you don't have WFP, why not try a trad pole and put applicator/squeegee on the end as appropriate? Just tell the customer that the quality of the clean on that window may not be as good but it is necessary for the sake of safety.
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I would use spikes very good and cheap another is to tie a rope to the garage door handle and onto the ladder so it cannot slip backward. I also have tent pegs to peg the base of the ladder all cheap and work in most cecomstances.I also peg those mats on grass to stop the slide
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In my opinion you can't work off a ladder on a sloping driveway safely, it's asking for trouble.
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I use one of these http://www.midlandladders.com/products/Basemate_Professional_Ladder_Leveller-275-0.html as seem to encounter lots of uneven ground. Fantastic bit of kit for leveling off.
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Do what us builders do whack a bag of sand down to foot the ladder if there are no human beings available
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lol ??? ??? ??? ??? ;D ;D
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In my opinion you can't work off a ladder on a sloping driveway safely, it's asking for trouble.
not if you use common sense
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Actually a jet powered back pack that i bought from a 70,s Bond film advertised on e-bay comes in rather handy at times, and it keeps the backs of your legs rather warm too. ;)