Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on June 08, 2005, 09:02:55 pm
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i know you will all say charge how much you worth but this is a big job , i have been asked to quote on a large office building 3 stories high but higher really cos of the high office ceilings it is like four so wouldnt feel safe on ladders for top floor , it has round 160 windows 2mX1m then 1 main large glass facade around 40ft high by 6m wide split into around 100 small pains then it has 9 simalar glass facades around the building but smaller with around 50 pains to each with the pains being 1/2mX1/2m .
and thats half of it then it needs the entire inside done
CAN YOU HELP ?
shawn
these are pics.. and this is not all of it still one more side missing plus the rear ..
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sorry,
out of my depth, but but good luck.
Kevin.
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Can't see any way you could price this accurately.
You don't want to end up with a nightmare.
If I were you I'd get a rough idea how long it would take in my head, and assuming it's quite a few hours just charge for a days work.
Better to risk going over than under!
Roger.
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Shawn
Quote the customer an hourly rate of £40-£50 or what you consider is ok.
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if u need the job mate play safe and be very careful not to underprice. If its a bonus think of a price and double it. If u dont get it youve not had it to lose and if you did get the job you will be delighted.People dont mind paying for quality windowcleaning these days. Good luck
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the other two window cleaners didnt give quotes cos they said it is to big .. i am thinking this too but if i pull it off it might be most of my wfp payed off .. its a one off clean
shawn
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could i get a reach and wash for 700 or so diy kit mybe must be hardwater
shwn
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Can you compare it to any job you already have, or have done in the past if so try to work out a price based on that. If not try to work out how long to do each window or each floor and times it by the appropriate amount and then add on some more just in case. Better to be to high than to low, unless your desperate for the work.
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Blimey.
A difficult one that.
I'm also of the opinion of go for a very high price as they've had 2 other w/c's turn down the offer to give a quote.
When you give the quote just mentally shut your eyes and just say it as if it's normal.
We done that for one job we were asked about where we didn't have a clue about the price and had even less clue as to how to do it and we got the job.
It lasted 9 months untill the contract ended and is to date, the best commercial job we've ever had.
Cheers
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i know its realy hard to judge its a big big job would £900 be alot for such a job
the biggest have done is £212.00 but you just cant tell
shawn
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Hi Shawn
Just go for it.
The commercial job I was posting about above was £330 for 2 hours work for 3 people and when I handed the quote in we all though 'no way' but it was accepted.
You'll always be wondering otherwise.
Cheers
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just got a reply saying quote £1500 so i think i will go with that .. and just see what happens ..
shawn
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Hi Shawn again
Please post about how you get on.
Good luck.
Cheers
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i will mate
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From the information you posted
I would charge between £700 to £900 for the job.
It is difficult to get it right without seeing the building though.
I dont know why the other window cleaners would be scared off by it though there are 10s of thousands of much bigger buildings who do you think does them?
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Shawn,
If it were me giving the bid I would count the number of panes and multiply by a set figure. 160 plus 100 plus 450 = 710 panes to clean.710 X $7. = $4350.00 American dollars; 2,305 pounds.
For in and out. That is a large undertaking; equipment; expertise; time; any danger involved? That is a lot of panes to clean.
If you have any snags you will be glad you are making what it is worth.
Do not underbid. There are many other things to do with your time. It is better to step out and charge what is fair and get fewer contracts; but make more per contract.
Good luck!
Hugs
Texas Girl :-*
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Texas Girl
Im moving to the States
If you can get £3.25 for each 1/2 metre window.
My window cleaning company would be turning quite a bit more than £1.5 million a year at your rates, more than 3 times more than here >:(
On the next plane to Texas
Glyn
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Texas Girl
Im moving to the States
If you can get £3.25 for each 1/2 metre window.
My window cleaning company would be turning quite a bit more than £1.5 million a year at your rates, more than 3 times more than here >:(
On the next plane to Texas
Glyn
Ah, but Glyn, they only get them cleaned once a year there; and that includes screens (the wire mesh stuff that keeps the bugs out) I think.
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Ken
So the £2,305 price quoted isnt realy relevant to the UK.
Still those Texas prices sound good to me
yehaaa
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From the information you posted
I would charge between £700 to £900 for the job.
It is difficult to get it right without seeing the building though.
I dont know why the other window cleaners would be scared off by it though there are 10s of thousands of much bigger buildings who do you think does them?
Hi Glyn
There are several huge buildings around here that have had the window cleaning contract up for grabs for ages.
One, a university building that can only be done by roped access, has not had the windows done for 3 years.
I'm hoping this years to get IRATA qualified to do the rope swinging thing.
The council here is crying out for craddle certified window cleaners.
It seems that here down in the South East, there is loads of work just waiting to be done and lots that could be done with WFP.
I don't know about moving to Texas though ...... all that sunshine and stuff......
Cheers
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Hi Rosskesava
If I was you I would sub contract the rope access work to a firm they does this type of work all the time. Thats what we do, there is a lot to learn and you only make one mistake in abseiling.
Glyn
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Hi Glyn again.
Hi Rosskesava
If I was you I would sub contract the rope access work to a firm they does this type of work all the time.
I'd never thought of that. Now that's a great idea.
What you say about abseiling is very true. A hobby of mine is rock climbing and abseiling is always the last resort when descending and as for doing it for fun, those people are lunatics.
I only wanted to do roped access for the money but now you've got me thinking.
Cheers
Ross
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I was offered work in the US some years ago, it was just the basic warehouse work to get me into the country. I went there for a holiday and went to work when I was there (Florida). I wasnt there for long but i found that at the beginning and end of the day you could be anywhere in the World. Once your used to the daily grind then it is like living here you still have to work. Mind you there are some things that are better over there but when you get used to them would you still see them as improvements? Also remember the health care system. Most jobs come with health care only the starter job I was offered through a mate didnt have that benefit and it was going to cost me $700.00 a month to be covered. Some would still go but having a 10 month old boy made us decide to stay in good old sunny England.
At least here you get a good cup of tea.
Steveyboy
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Hey Stevey;
I bet you guys have the best tea on earth!
Health care over here is a wide range; but I have to say it is excellent.
When I was divorced and paid for it myself for 4 of us I opted to go with a high deductable $2000.00 to cover catastrophic circumstances.
It was $135.00 per month. It had dental and prescription coverage and allowed for 4 doctor visits per person per year for a cost of $35.00 copay.
Now that I am married to a retired military man my health care is almost free.
If you were here several years ago it may have been before health care furnished by companies was required.
Now if you have more than 10 employees you must pay for 1/2 of the premium for all policies. If you had an HMO (Health management organization)policy then there is no deductable and no doubt was a family policy.
The laws have changed a lot in the past few years. No one is denied health care in the USA.
Even if you have no insurance, medicaid kicks in and will pay for what is needed.
There is no waiting list or requirements if you need health care. If you are below a certain income amount your kids are covered for free.
I know about this topic because I was self employed and had to pay for my own.
$700.00 per month is not today's rates for coverage. I don't blame you for being discouraged because that is way too expensive to even consider.
The window cleaning rates are pretty good here. As I was suggesting a certain rate per pane; it evens out; easy panes along with upper story difficult panes; same price.
That is what I have adopted; per pane or per window. And the place is growing like crazy! I live 20 minutes from Fort Hood.
Recently 5000 troops were transferred here. My husband owns rental houses so he has profited as well as many other businesses.
Mine included. The yellow pages have helped me a lot. I get cold calls daily.
I think adopting a set pattern of charges is easier than other methods.
Hugs, :-*
Texas girl