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Title: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: richywilts on November 26, 2009, 07:21:22 pm
went down to quote for the cheshire oaks mcdonalds where my friend is the assistant manager he asked me to cum down to quote and to speak to the manager, got there totalled up the windows over 100 average sized windows and approx 50 small windows at top that are about 4 inches in height, he said the last guy goes each month 4 times a week doing internal and external for £250 and pretty much wanted to match that i said sod that i wouldnt get out of bed that works out at £15 quid a visit what wold everyone else do?????????

wouldnt even be worth sending an employee on 7quid an hour!!!
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: daz1977 on November 26, 2009, 07:28:45 pm
i know that macs,  u would have to get there about 6 am, just to be able to get it done

y does he want to change the w c

would it not lead tomore work on cheshire oaks


please explain price again, i am thick,  is it 4 times a week for 250 a month or 4 times a week for 250 a week

cheers

dont worry i am not after it i live in cornwall now
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 07:31:46 pm
£250 a month,

If you could get 15 stores across an area then that would be worth £45000 a year to your business.

Mixed in with other work than thats not a bad crack if you have employees.

It can be done in the rain too.

Has he got any more?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: jonnyald on November 26, 2009, 07:33:47 pm
a mate of mine does the local mac here ,as u say  4 times a week , but he never does every window each visit , just  the bad glass every time  .  
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 07:36:14 pm
fingerprints scrimed off :P

Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: jonnyald on November 26, 2009, 07:42:26 pm
fingerprints scrimed off :P



yeah i think thats it exactly .  is that how it works at lidls too?   
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 07:44:08 pm
£250 per month per store for 16 visits(4 a week)

£15.62 per visit x 4 = £62.50 per week per store

£62.50 a week for 15 stores £937.50 per week

Bring it on!!!!

Theres Mac Ds everywhere.
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 07:45:03 pm
fingerprints scrimed off :P



yeah i think thats it exactly .  is that how it works at lidls too?   

Ofcourse not ;)
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 07:47:13 pm
I used to do the local Macs here in my town, scrim off finger prints in theory is OK. Macs has gobbed out scoff all over the place and sticks to the glass like cat crap. You might get away with half the windows but you need that time to get all the crap on the windows where all the chavs have spat all their gunk and wiped their undies on the frames. :(
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 07:49:50 pm
I used to do the local Macs here in my town, scrim off finger prints in theory is OK. Macs has gobbed out scoff all over the place and sticks to the glass like cat crap. You might get away with half the windows but you need that time to get all the crap on the windows where all the chavs have spat all their gunk and wiped their undies on the frames. :(
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Id take my fixed penalty notebook with me ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 07:50:05 pm
I cleaned two McDonalds for six years, the one up at Alton Towers ( now a Burger King) and the one on the way to Alton Towers, at Uttoxeter, Alton Towers once a week - saturday inside & out £30.00.

Uttoxeter started out at six visits per week, in the end it was getting a full wfp external on Monday, Wednesday & Saturday mornings and chosen glass (as required) inside for £285.00 per month.

Despite everything, come rain or shine the invoice was paid by their accounts department every month, on time and it was work that was always finished before it got light.

I got a lot of other work from my McDonalds work.

Dont break the price down to a per window price, do them all to start and then work clever and do what you need to keep them happy.The top row of small windows were only ever done when they started to look dirty.

I could crack two McDonalds out 6 miles apart in one hour

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 07:52:34 pm
Hi Rob,

What happened to the one the one in uttoxeter?

Did you sell it?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 07:54:40 pm
I sold them both. Couldn't tell you what is going on with them now. I also did the Little Chef on the other side of the roundabout once a week, saturday morning and got just less than a tonne for 11/2 hrs work!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 07:55:37 pm
Pinching money ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 07:59:19 pm
There are too many people wanting to be millionaires on here without putting any effort in!!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 07:59:47 pm
Any of you two clean the Boars Head?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 08:00:41 pm
Wheres that Cozy

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:00:55 pm
Boar in moddershall?

If so yes I used to, its being done up now so im hoping to get back in there.

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Murdie window cleaning on November 26, 2009, 08:02:18 pm
Pinching money ;) ;) ;)

An officer of the law pinching  ::). Surely not
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 08:03:03 pm
Draycot in the clay, near Sudbury Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 08:04:15 pm
I'm going in there tomorrow!! - you used to do it dean!! ;D

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 08:05:45 pm
I had a good little round in Draycott, dropped leaflets and ended up getting about 15 houses round there, never the pub though!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:07:54 pm
Yes Rob I did,

There was an "incident" involving the landlady and it shut down :o :o :o

Its looking good now,

We clean quite a few houses in modershall and around that way.

Are you cleaning it?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 08:09:27 pm
No - not big enough for me!!!. Looking at other avenues as I make my business work for me!!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 08:10:17 pm
Just wondered, My niece is shacked up with the owners son, my old lady is at Home Farm, just opposit the Foston nick. Rob, you going there to work tomorrow or to stuff your face , scoff is 1st class.?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:11:48 pm
Whats your business with them then rob :)

Youve got me gripped now ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 08:14:35 pm
I can't believe I'm having a conversation with a liverpool supporter, living in Germany about the backwaters of South Deryshire.

I got all of my work up there from my McDonalds work. Just about to ask you what the conection was. If it is good for grub I am going in. They have a conservatory on the side that is greener than grass. I can clean it for them if they want!!!.

If I told my missus why I know they do good food she would never believe me!!! ;D

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:15:38 pm
No - not big enough for me!!!

Theres a fair bit in pub builders cleans after a refurb,  We did one in Stockport a few weeks back ;D ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 08:17:18 pm
Good scoff, great prices mate ;)
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:17:26 pm
Anyway,

About these Mcdonalds..............................
 ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 08:18:16 pm
I only know it Dean because I drove past it once a month to do my round up there. Never tried to get it.

If you want to know what I am doing to move my business forward, then I don't have enough time but I am working on multiple angles and have proposed something today that will see me get a return of 50% on any investment within 2 months max!!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:20:10 pm
I only know it Dean because I drove past it once a month to do my round up there. Never tried to get it.

If you want to know what I am doing to move my business forward, then I don't have enough time but I am working on multiple angles and have proposed something today that will see me get a return of 50% on any investment within 2 months max!!!

Rob ;D

Sounds superb Rob,

Good luck with it mate.
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:23:50 pm
I think theres confusion,

I talking about the Boar Inn in Moddershall which is near to Stone in Staffordshire.

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: cozy on November 26, 2009, 08:26:15 pm
No probs Dean, sorted
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 08:27:22 pm
Now I know where it is I am going in with a portfolio and I am going to dazzle them with my client base. Kerching!!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:29:37 pm
If you had done that 12 months ago you would have been stabbed like the last poor soul who attempted to reason with the landlady :o :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 26, 2009, 08:30:52 pm
I like a feisty woman ;D

Rob ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 26, 2009, 08:31:46 pm
lol  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: ronnie paton on November 26, 2009, 09:33:14 pm
dean you shold of gave us a call whilst in stockport.

Just down the road from me.
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: weetot on November 26, 2009, 09:51:17 pm
I,M LOVIN' IT  ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Window Washers on November 26, 2009, 10:07:37 pm
£250 per month per store for 16 visits(4 a week)

£15.62 per visit x 4 = £62.50 per week per store

£62.50 a week for 15 stores £937.50 per week

Bring it on!!!!

Theres Mac Ds everywhere.
and you think you can do 100 normal windows in and out and 50 small in and out times 15 stores per day I want to bottle what you have inside Dean as you must be very very quick
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 07:11:37 am
 :o :o

ill send u some ian ;D

thats why i said with employees,

theres no way they would all need to be cleaned 100% with them being clean 4x per week.

id certainly give them a go.

dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Window Washers on November 27, 2009, 08:42:36 am
:o :o

ill send u some ian ;D

thats why i said with employees,

theres no way they would all need to be cleaned 100% with them being clean 4x per week.

id certainly give them a go.

dean
;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Sean Dyer on November 27, 2009, 09:36:48 am
ive seen a lad in manchester who does nearly every mcds i know of,if he cant reach it, it dont get cleaned lol!!

theyre not really worth it for sole traders, but as dean said if you have a hundred and thyre close to other work then it can be a fairly big cheque once a month otherwise it will just frustrate you!
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: bluez on November 27, 2009, 11:23:47 am
I wouldnt take 1 at that money unless I thought I could get all the others.

Theres a margin in volume.
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: JRDEasiReach on November 27, 2009, 12:48:37 pm
just above its shoulders :)
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 07:15:38 pm
Im onto these Mcdonalds,

Ive sent an email today to see what the crack is,

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 08:07:27 pm
dean you shold of gave us a call whilst in stockport.

Just down the road from me.

Ronnie,

Not got your number,

Do you know the red lion on buxton rd?

Thats what we cleaned,

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: ronnie paton on November 27, 2009, 10:01:11 pm
yea buxton rd is the A6, the main rd in stockport.

Dean my number is on my site your welcome any time and i may ring you  one day , im intrested in how you make these lidls pay ;)
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on November 27, 2009, 10:11:13 pm
fingerprints scrimed off :P


how long would you be at a job like this  or a employee ?

is a shame the large wc companies do a rubbish cowboy job so everyone else gets labeled the same and or has to do the same to get work........ I think we should shoot cowboys and bring in the indians  ;D

I once had a trial with Crystal Clear window cleaning, the guys there told me to just clean the glass with the most dirt on.
we must of missed half the windows, they said no point cleaning clean glass.
I even told the guy that I was working with, that they are acting like cowboys. he just laughed.
BTW I didn't get the job  ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 10:19:55 pm
yea buxton rd is the A6, the main rd in stockport.

Dean my number is on my site your welcome any time and i may ring you  one day , im intrested in how you make these lidls pay ;)

The lidls arent badly priced ronnie,

sometimes they include many things like graffiti removal, litter picking etc,

We are starting on the starbucks dec 7th, up to 7 stores now, hopefully more to come,

people will always knock prices ronnie but mixed with other work its a goer,

a goal for me is I havent got a prob with making zero profit 2 weeks a month just as long as I can make £5000 a week the other 2 weeks,

One day it will happen 8) 8)

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: South Coast Cleaning Services on November 27, 2009, 10:26:21 pm
I had a call today about doing my local starbucks.
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 10:30:42 pm
Cleaning it?

Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: abilol on November 27, 2009, 10:30:42 pm
did big bosses come to vist other day and did you get some extra jobs to do on lidls mate
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: ronnie paton on November 27, 2009, 10:37:18 pm
dean im with you on doing jobs like lidl and starbuck together can make money.

How do you get these jos(if yor willing to let me in on it) ;)

so Dean is 5k a week for two weeks for two or three or our of you?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 10:38:51 pm
Laurie,

They cancelled,

Still cleaned that RDC though which was a good experience,

Ive got the postcode for that pemberton store on my voicemail from matt,

Ill give you a call in the morning,

Are you ready for action next week?

If you ever struggle with the middlewich and northwich stores im more than happy to take them over,

Ill give you a bell tomorrow anyway.

Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: abilol on November 27, 2009, 10:46:13 pm
did the same last week i had to 11 manchester ones to do with all signs and they did not turn there
i did the runcorn  office 1 a month till the cut backs if i get to much on i will give you a shout about northwich and middlewitch back on tomorrow on houses cheers mate
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 10:46:37 pm
dean im with you on doing jobs like lidl and starbuck together can make money.

How do you get these jos(if yor willing to let me in on it) ;)

so Dean is 5k a week for two weeks for two or three or our of you?

Ronnie,

There are 3 of us at present,

Me a full time guy and a part time lad,

We travel the country and enjoy it,

The £10k a month is the aim regardless of 2 employees or 5 or even 10,

I think I could accept £2500 per week whilst considering my next move ;) ;) ;)

Dean

Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 10:48:57 pm
did the same last week i had to 11 manchester ones to do with all signs and they did not turn there
i did the runcorn  office 1 a month till the cut backs if i get to much on i will give you a shout about northwich and middlewitch back on tomorrow on houses cheers mate


Thanks Laurie,

How much was the ale at centrepacs,

The notts one is only about 40 mile from me,

was it a dear do in total?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: ronnie paton on November 27, 2009, 10:54:01 pm
but dean if there were 10 of you 2500 a week wouldnt even cover wages????

Laurie i would be intrested in theis 'network' of starbucks lidls ect :)
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: abilol on November 27, 2009, 10:54:15 pm
it was a good do dean nice to have a few days and chill
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: ronnie paton on November 27, 2009, 11:00:40 pm
dean so when working all over the country do you just aim for a profit no matter how small??
 ie 3 men do a £400 job in leeds its say 3hours travelling and a 8 hour job you pay your guys £8 a hour so thsts 11x8x2=176 you have running costs of say £60 your left with164 for 11 hours work.

Is thi good or bad business to you?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 11:04:23 pm
Ronnie,

Im talking profit,

We are getting confused ;) ;)

obviously id need more work to sustain 10 employees and a £2500 per week profit,

What im getting at is on a whole I could live with my business making no profit 2 weeks a month as long as i could make enough in the other 2 months,

I could attract a good guy and only be able to offer him 2 weeks a month and he wouldnt be interested,

If I could make a killing from him 2 weeks a month but just cover his wages for the other 2 he would stay,

With me?

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 11:05:55 pm
dean so when working all over the country do you just aim for a profit no matter how small??
 ie 3 men do a £400 job in leeds its say 3hours travelling and a 8 hour job you pay your guys £8 a hour so thsts 11x8x2=176 you have running costs of say £60 your left with164 for 11 hours work.

Is thi good or bad business to you?

Ronnie,

Id be bankrupt if that was my plan,

We need to meet for a beer :P

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: ronnie paton on November 27, 2009, 11:08:03 pm
yep i agree.

i believe im too greedy and need to learn if m business is to continue to epand i need to think about a bigger quantity with less profit rather than less work more profit if you get my drift.
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 11:12:11 pm
I wouldnt mind having 50 employees with a £2500 pw profit,

You would just need to find the work to keep them all going,

Ie, Lidl, starbucks, mcdonalds plus the work that really pays  ;) ;) ;),

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: ronnie paton on November 27, 2009, 11:14:04 pm
we will have to have a chat soon :)
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 11:16:00 pm
Defo ronnie,

Why is this a sticky topic now?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: ronnie paton on November 27, 2009, 11:18:59 pm
what do you mean sticky topic?
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 27, 2009, 11:20:32 pm
its at the top of the board with a pin in it :o
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: South Coast Cleaning Services on November 28, 2009, 08:06:36 am
Defo ronnie,

Why is this a sticky topic now?

I only came on this thread to say the same thing as its at the top and even above the Massive Warehouse Clearance!  :)
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on November 28, 2009, 11:57:14 am
yeh mate it aint worth the hassel of getting outa bed quoted about the same for a macs by us they ad a bloke doing this for £170 every other day i LOL mate!!!
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: trevor perry on November 28, 2009, 04:42:29 pm
I wouldnt mind having 50 employees with a £2500 pw profit,

You would just need to find the work to keep them all going,

Ie, Lidl, starbucks, mcdonalds plus the work that really pays  ;) ;) ;),

Dean
fifty staff would cause you tons of headache and you would definately want more than £2500 a week profit from that many staff.
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: wayne 77 on November 28, 2009, 05:58:52 pm
went down to quote for the cheshire oaks mcdonalds where my friend is the assistant manager he asked me to cum down to quote and to speak to the manager, got there totalled up the windows over 100 average sized windows and approx 50 small windows at top that are about 4 inches in height, he said the last guy goes each month 4 times a week doing internal and external for £250 and pretty much wanted to match that i said sod that i wouldnt get out of bed that works out at £15 quid a visit what wold everyone else do?????????

wouldnt even be worth sending an employee on 7quid an hour!!!

£250 X 12 = 3000
52 X 4 = 208 Will be sat or sun
£14.42 per vist   stay in bed will also require holiday cover.fed up not hard up
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 28, 2009, 07:35:36 pm
Wayne,

There is a bigger picture to look at here ;)

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on November 29, 2009, 06:33:48 pm
i spend half me time in macs ay got time to clean there rotten winds mates
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 29, 2009, 06:40:24 pm
I wouldnt mind having 50 employees with a £2500 pw profit,

You would just need to find the work to keep them all going,

Ie, Lidl, starbucks, mcdonalds plus the work that really pays  ;) ;) ;),

Dean
fifty staff would cause you tons of headache and you would definately want more than £2500 a week profit from that many staff.

Trevor this was a bad example of running a business but a good example of alcohol messing with my mind,

The £2500 is a goer of a plan,

The 50 staff at present is not.

Dean
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Sean Dyer on November 30, 2009, 09:24:36 am
how many staff for £2500 profit dean?

is that after tax?

My plan is to get roughly some where near 50 k profit  year and stay under vat :)

i reckon i can do it with 2 of us, one doing 3 days a week and me on 4-5

But obviously you can do loads more just be employing and taking on vat

i want a stress free business though i think, no vat , no employing headached

the lad ibe got now is good, and just wants 3 days , it suits me, maybe once i get where i wanna be i will take the next step but right now i just wanna hit that first target in the next 12 months
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: weetot on November 30, 2009, 07:24:50 pm
You cant make 50k when your're spending all your time on modern warfare 2, who are you kiddin'  ;D
Title: Re: mcdonalds!!!
Post by: Dean Taberner on November 30, 2009, 07:29:59 pm
how many staff for £2500 profit dean?

is that after tax?

My plan is to get roughly some where near 50 k profit  year and stay under vat :)

i reckon i can do it with 2 of us, one doing 3 days a week and me on 4-5

But obviously you can do loads more just be employing and taking on vat

i want a stress free business though i think, no vat , no employing headached

the lad ibe got now is good, and just wants 3 days , it suits me, maybe once i get where i wanna be i will take the next step but right now i just wanna hit that first target in the next 12 months

As many as it took sean ;)

Vat would be unavoidable though as £2500 is £120k+ on its own ;D

Dean