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Title: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: dazmond on November 24, 2009, 03:42:25 pm
ordered tds meter from pure freedom on sunday.arrived today.this is the start!still TRAD so thought id better test my water first!65-70 TDS!i thought it would be lower than that!is that ok for a twin DI ONLY system?on a meter so dont want RO.easier/quicker to fill up and no waste water.think im gona get a system from pure freedom and go down there for the night and go out with the WFP guy while system is being fitted!ive had no experience with WFP at all yet only 15 yrs TRAD! ;) ;)ANY THOUGHTS GUYS?

best wishes to everyone

dazmond
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: Niall McAllister on November 24, 2009, 03:48:10 pm
you already know how to clean windows, so you're half way there already
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: Ste M on November 24, 2009, 03:52:56 pm
i bet that by the 3rd or 4th time you wish you had done it years ago, i do, got myself a backpack and im off to get a 650ltr van set up this weekend, best thing i have ever done but i do believe that the years of being a trad cleaner will pay dividends in the end.  ;D
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: colley614 on November 24, 2009, 03:56:09 pm
I do believe that Trad knowledge is a must, even when you use water fed poles. I always do the bottoms Trad.
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: JRDEasiReach on November 24, 2009, 04:00:32 pm
well done daz, your first step!!
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: DAVID WARD on November 24, 2009, 04:07:23 pm
i bet that by the 3rd or 4th time you wish you had done it years ago, i do, got myself a backpack and im off to get a 650ltr van set up this weekend, best thing i have ever done but i do believe that the years of being a trad cleaner will pay dividends in the end.  ;D

Hi steve
what setup did you decide on, are you going up to purefreedom or somewhere else or is it a diy

dave
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: leapstallbuildings on November 24, 2009, 04:38:57 pm
ordered tds meter from pure freedom on sunday.arrived today.this is the start!still TRAD so thought id better test my water first!65-70 TDS!i thought it would be lower than that!is that ok for a twin DI ONLY system?on a meter so dont want RO.easier/quicker to fill up and no waste water.think im gona get a system from pure freedom and go down there for the night and go out with the WFP guy while system is being fitted!ive had no experience with WFP at all yet only 15 yrs TRAD! ;) ;)ANY THOUGHTS GUYS?

best wishes to everyone

dazmond

With a TDS that low, you should get about 7,000 litres from a 25k bag of resin (500,000/70).  If that lasts say, three weeks, that would be about £25 a week on resin.  Setting up an RO would probably save you some money in the longer term but would be a bit of hassle and if you are on a water meter, you would be paying for at least double the water you actually clean with - due to RO waste water.
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: Ste M on November 24, 2009, 04:43:02 pm
i bet that by the 3rd or 4th time you wish you had done it years ago, i do, got myself a backpack and im off to get a 650ltr van set up this weekend, best thing i have ever done but i do believe that the years of being a trad cleaner will pay dividends in the end.  ;D

Hi steve
what setup did you decide on, are you going up to purefreedom or somewhere else or is it a diy

dave

got a year old 650 ltr set up off a b loke on here, going to get it on saturday and then im going to have a go at fitting it myself
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: DAVID WARD on November 24, 2009, 05:02:41 pm
i bet that by the 3rd or 4th time you wish you had done it years ago, i do, got myself a backpack and im off to get a 650ltr van set up this weekend, best thing i have ever done but i do believe that the years of being a trad cleaner will pay dividends in the end.  ;D

Hi steve
what setup did you decide on, are you going up to purefreedom or somewhere else or is it a diy

dave

got a year old 650 ltr set up off a b loke on here, going to get it on saturday and then im going to have a go at fitting it myself

Hi steve
Glad you got sorted hope the fitting goes well, you will have to keep us posted  on how it goes.
cant wait to get a set up but it will be after crimbo for me.
dave
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: Window Washers on November 24, 2009, 05:19:19 pm
ordered tds meter from pure freedom on sunday.arrived today.this is the start!still TRAD so thought id better test my water first!65-70 TDS!i thought it would be lower than that!is that ok for a twin DI ONLY system?on a meter so dont want RO.easier/quicker to fill up and no waste water.think im gona get a system from pure freedom and go down there for the night and go out with the WFP guy while system is being fitted!ive had no experience with WFP at all yet only 15 yrs TRAD! ;) ;)ANY THOUGHTS GUYS?

best wishes to everyone

dazmond
when you say you dont want waste water, why is this ? do you think di only will save you money against the waste of water ?

Im on a meter and I would never go di unless the water from tap was about 30 max, you will use quite a bit of resin unless you work part time hours
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: macmac on November 24, 2009, 05:59:25 pm
ordered tds meter from pure freedom on sunday.arrived today.this is the start!still TRAD so thought id better test my water first!65-70 TDS!i thought it would be lower than that!is that ok for a twin DI ONLY system?on a meter so dont want RO.easier/quicker to fill up and no waste water.think im gona get a system from pure freedom and go down there for the night and go out with the WFP guy while system is being fitted!ive had no experience with WFP at all yet only 15 yrs TRAD! ;) ;)ANY THOUGHTS GUYS?

best wishes to everyone

dazmond

Twin DI's, dowex or tulsion resin & purify on demand (not fill tank through vessels) & you'll be fine mate.

My tds is 90ppm & I go through 2 bags of resin a year!!!!!! 400ltr van mount too. ;)

Usually, the people who spout about resin usage & DI only set-ups are the ones who know the least. ;)
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: dazmond on November 25, 2009, 12:41:28 am
i see MACMAC!u mean fill tank with normal water then when u start on a job its goes through the di then up to the brush pure?sounds GOOD!!.i was thinking 25quid a week for resin was a bit expensive!so about 200quid a year MACMAC on average?instead of 1100quid??if so i think that would be better for me.easier and quicker fill up and lower water bills due to no waste water.thanks pal.sometimes i dont know what to believe on here!! ::)


dazmond
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: Window Washers on November 25, 2009, 06:52:20 am
ordered tds meter from pure freedom on sunday.arrived today.this is the start!still TRAD so thought id better test my water first!65-70 TDS!i thought it would be lower than that!is that ok for a twin DI ONLY system?on a meter so dont want RO.easier/quicker to fill up and no waste water.think im gona get a system from pure freedom and go down there for the night and go out with the WFP guy while system is being fitted!ive had no experience with WFP at all yet only 15 yrs TRAD! ;) ;)ANY THOUGHTS GUYS?

best wishes to everyone

dazmond

Twin DI's, dowex or tulsion resin & purify on demand (not fill tank through vessels) & you'll be fine mate.

My tds is 90ppm & I go through 2 bags of resin a year!!!!!! 400ltr van mount too. ;)

Usually, the people who spout about resin usage & DI only set-ups are the ones who know the least. ;)
Morning

or are ones that have looked into it, you state you use 2 bags of resin ::) use I about that and my tds is 470+ and have  650L van mounts :-* so maybe just maybe some that spout could know a little  ::)

Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: adixon on November 25, 2009, 09:20:46 am
My tap tds is 78 and i use two vessels in the van on demand about 500 ltrs a day and a bag of resin lasts me 7 - 8 weeks working six days a week
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: macmac on November 25, 2009, 11:00:58 am
My tap tds is 78 and i use two vessels in the van on demand about 500 ltrs a day and a bag of resin lasts me 7 - 8 weeks working six days a week

That's 28,000Ltrs of water ;)
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: macmac on November 25, 2009, 11:08:57 am
i see MACMAC!u mean fill tank with normal water then when u start on a job its goes through the di then up to the brush pure?sounds GOOD!!.i was thinking 25quid a week for resin was a bit expensive!so about 200quid a year MACMAC on average?instead of 1100quid??if so i think that would be better for me.easier and quicker fill up and lower water bills due to no waste water.thanks pal.sometimes i dont know what to believe on here!! ::)


dazmond

Yes mate. My resin costs £70.50 per bag all in, so £141 a year for me. ;)
Follow my advice & things couldn't be simpler or easier. Resin brand & using on-demand are very important factors as, ofcourse is having 2 vessels.

Yes, ok, if you expand & find yourself using 6/7/800ltrs a day, every day you might want to consider an RO but, even then, your DI's can still be used with this so you arn't buying anything you wouldn't need anyway.

Let me know when you take the plunge & I'll help you the best I can. ;)
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: Window Washers on November 25, 2009, 06:10:30 pm
i see MACMAC!u mean fill tank with normal water then when u start on a job its goes through the di then up to the brush pure?sounds GOOD!!.i was thinking 25quid a week for resin was a bit expensive!so about 200quid a year MACMAC on average?instead of 1100quid??if so i think that would be better for me.easier and quicker fill up and lower water bills due to no waste water.thanks pal.sometimes i dont know what to believe on here!! ::)


dazmond

Yes mate. My resin costs £70.50 per bag all in, so £141 a year for me. ;)
Follow my advice & things couldn't be simpler or easier. Resin brand & using on-demand are very important factors as, ofcourse is having 2 vessels.

Yes, ok, if you expand & find yourself using 6/7/800ltrs a day, every day you might want to consider an RO but, even then, your DI's can still be used with this so you arn't buying anything you wouldn't need anyway.

Let me know when you take the plunge & I'll help you the best I can. ;)
That is a fair point, even though I would go with ro also, Dave morris did very simlar and now as far as I am aware uses ro and di because of wasting money
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: dazmond on November 25, 2009, 06:25:31 pm
thanks mac mac.400 lts a day should do me  as i work on my own and no plans to employ!i wont be goin wfp till spring.getting a van before anything else!looking at a ford connect.i think i can fit a 400lt tank in the back.ill do plenty more research before finally taking the plunge!! ;D ;D

best wishes

dazmond
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: macmac on November 25, 2009, 07:21:41 pm
i see MACMAC!u mean fill tank with normal water then when u start on a job its goes through the di then up to the brush pure?sounds GOOD!!.i was thinking 25quid a week for resin was a bit expensive!so about 200quid a year MACMAC on average?instead of 1100quid??if so i think that would be better for me.easier and quicker fill up and lower water bills due to no waste water.thanks pal.sometimes i dont know what to believe on here!! ::)


dazmond

Yes mate. My resin costs £70.50 per bag all in, so £141 a year for me. ;)
Follow my advice & things couldn't be simpler or easier. Resin brand & using on-demand are very important factors as, ofcourse is having 2 vessels.

Yes, ok, if you expand & find yourself using 6/7/800ltrs a day, every day you might want to consider an RO but, even then, your DI's can still be used with this so you arn't buying anything you wouldn't need anyway.

Let me know when you take the plunge & I'll help you the best I can. ;)
That is a fair point, even though I would go with ro also, Dave morris did very simlar and now as far as I am aware uses ro and di because of wasting money

There's a bit of difference between D.Morris and Dazmond though?
The point is, look at me, for the sake of £140 a year why on earth would I even consider the outlay & hassle & extra space & equipment required for an RO? I reckon if I was on a meter it would cost me more per annum with an RO!!

+ I can fill my tank from any customers tap so I'll never be short of pure water. For me, an RO would turn out more expensive to run my business. ;)
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 25, 2009, 07:47:02 pm
I'm with macmac on this one, spot on. :)
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: Window Washers on November 25, 2009, 08:23:15 pm
i see MACMAC!u mean fill tank with normal water then when u start on a job its goes through the di then up to the brush pure?sounds GOOD!!.i was thinking 25quid a week for resin was a bit expensive!so about 200quid a year MACMAC on average?instead of 1100quid??if so i think that would be better for me.easier and quicker fill up and lower water bills due to no waste water.thanks pal.sometimes i dont know what to believe on here!! ::)


dazmond

Yes mate. My resin costs £70.50 per bag all in, so £141 a year for me. ;)
Follow my advice & things couldn't be simpler or easier. Resin brand & using on-demand are very important factors as, ofcourse is having 2 vessels.

Yes, ok, if you expand & find yourself using 6/7/800ltrs a day, every day you might want to consider an RO but, even then, your DI's can still be used with this so you arn't buying anything you wouldn't need anyway.

Let me know when you take the plunge & I'll help you the best I can. ;)
That is a fair point, even though I would go with ro also, Dave morris did very simlar and now as far as I am aware uses ro and di because of wasting money

There's a bit of difference between D.Morris and Dazmond though?
The point is, look at me, for the sake of £140 a year why on earth would I even consider the outlay & hassle & extra space & equipment required for an RO? I reckon if I was on a meter it would cost me more per annum with an RO!!

+ I can fill my tank from any customers tap so I'll never be short of pure water. For me, an RO would turn out more expensive to run my business. ;)
if you fill your tank at your customers then fair play to you m8 is all I can say to that, I would not dream of doing this but I am not you so if it saves you money good for you. And I do mean that. I have never been one to do things in a limiting way, but all are different there is know wrong person in this as both would work  but at least Daz has both options I only have the ro and di as an option.
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: macmac on November 25, 2009, 08:27:23 pm
i see MACMAC!u mean fill tank with normal water then when u start on a job its goes through the di then up to the brush pure?sounds GOOD!!.i was thinking 25quid a week for resin was a bit expensive!so about 200quid a year MACMAC on average?instead of 1100quid??if so i think that would be better for me.easier and quicker fill up and lower water bills due to no waste water.thanks pal.sometimes i dont know what to believe on here!! ::)


dazmond

Yes mate. My resin costs £70.50 per bag all in, so £141 a year for me. ;)
Follow my advice & things couldn't be simpler or easier. Resin brand & using on-demand are very important factors as, ofcourse is having 2 vessels.

Yes, ok, if you expand & find yourself using 6/7/800ltrs a day, every day you might want to consider an RO but, even then, your DI's can still be used with this so you arn't buying anything you wouldn't need anyway.

Let me know when you take the plunge & I'll help you the best I can. ;)
That is a fair point, even though I would go with ro also, Dave morris did very simlar and now as far as I am aware uses ro and di because of wasting money

There's a bit of difference between D.Morris and Dazmond though?
The point is, look at me, for the sake of £140 a year why on earth would I even consider the outlay & hassle & extra space & equipment required for an RO? I reckon if I was on a meter it would cost me more per annum with an RO!!

+ I can fill my tank from any customers tap so I'll never be short of pure water. For me, an RO would turn out more expensive to run my business. ;)
if you fill your tank at your customers then fair play to you m8 is all I can say to that, I would not dream of doing this but I am not you so if it saves you money good for you. And I do mean that. I have never been one to do things in a limiting way, but all are different there is know wrong person in this as both would work  but at least Daz has both options I only have the ro and di as an option.


I only use custy's tap when I need to, there are NO domestic water meters in this region! water rates are in with council tax in scotland ;) I would only be limiting myself by using an RO!
Title: Re: 1st OFF!TDS METER!!!
Post by: dazmond on November 25, 2009, 11:00:17 pm
im also in a first floor flat!i think the 2 DI set up with tap water in the tank then di to brush is the best economical option.i think a 400 lt full tank should last me most days.wont have a problem if i need to top up though on the job so to speak as ive been cleaning some of my custys for 15 yrs and most are loyal and friendly and are not on meters!!but ill try not to as thats wasted time not cleaning!