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Title: how long?
Post by: tom2009 on November 19, 2009, 04:04:23 pm
should I be taking to do say a three bed semi with 8 windows? I not too worried about being speedy gonzales at the moment and understand about grouping customers together for best earing power but a guide speed would be something to aim at. Thanks in advance. Tom
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: dazmond on November 19, 2009, 04:05:37 pm
15 MINS-20MINS TOPS.
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: JRDEasiReach on November 19, 2009, 04:07:12 pm
first clean with wfp 30 mins, 2nd and 3rd and future cleans will get quicker :)
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Niall McAllister on November 19, 2009, 04:07:55 pm
should I be taking to do say a three bed semi with 8 windows? I not too worried about being speedy gonzales at the moment and understand about grouping customers together for best earing power but a guide speed would be something to aim at. Thanks in advance. Tom
how long do you think it should take?
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on November 19, 2009, 04:08:32 pm
WFP or Trad?
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: tom2009 on November 19, 2009, 04:09:59 pm
not sure - im new - first clean today took longer, faffing about etc. doing it trad. Id like to think no more than 30 mins
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on November 19, 2009, 04:10:11 pm
WFP 20mins first clean, 10-15mins per clean after.
Trad 20-30 first clean then 20 mins per clean after.


Matt
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Martin ccs on November 19, 2009, 04:10:43 pm
off a ladder i guess about  upto 2 mins max a window plus a few mins with setting up ladder etc... also depends on type of windows.

wfp id say around 10 - 15 mins max!
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: tom2009 on November 19, 2009, 04:12:27 pm
Thanks Matt - I need to crack on and get faster!
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Neil on November 19, 2009, 04:12:55 pm
10 minutes max, Thats what I tell my lads   you should hear the replys I get from them lol
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: tom2009 on November 19, 2009, 04:15:11 pm
thanks for all feedback. Next purchase - stop watch :D
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Martin ccs on November 19, 2009, 04:16:08 pm
not sure - im new - first clean today took longer, faffing about etc. doing it trad. Id like to think no more than 30 mins

you will get quicker each month, be able to know where abouts to place the ladder and how many times you have to go up the ladder on bigger sized windows.

if you charge £10 for that 8 window house then thats £20 per hour if you have a good compact round but if its too spread out then you will earn alot less - try and work out how much you would like to earn an hour/per day.
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: rich fraser on November 19, 2009, 04:16:30 pm
8 inches, around 8)
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Niall McAllister on November 19, 2009, 04:18:07 pm
not sure - im new - first clean today took longer, faffing about etc. doing it trad. Id like to think no more than 30 mins
when i did my first house it took me about 1.5 hr to do 8 windows on a ground floor flat :-[
you will get quicker,

















































or go hungry ;D
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Martin ccs on November 19, 2009, 04:20:04 pm
thanks for all feedback. Next purchase - stop watch :D

you will find that some older style houses can take longer trad, due to bay windows and some access probs maybe.

alot of new houses are very straight forward now with not many access probs for the ladder.

just make sure you take into account time factor when pricing up houses.
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: tom2009 on November 19, 2009, 04:20:38 pm
like a twit I charged her 8 quid. when i get used to ladder position hopefully can speed up - Im feeling I should have charged her more but its like I need to build a round and don't want to put them off. Have a bit more posture with potential custies maybe
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Niall McAllister on November 19, 2009, 04:23:24 pm
£1/ window is fair enough way to work your pricing till you are more sure of yourself
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on November 19, 2009, 04:23:43 pm
Thats about the going price Tom, £1 per window. do you charge £1 for the 2 doors?


Matt
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Martin ccs on November 19, 2009, 04:25:04 pm
like a twit I charged her 8 quid. when i get used to ladder position hopefully can speed up - Im feeling I should have charged her more but its like I need to build a round and don't want to put them off. Have a bit more posture with potential custies maybe

some will charge £1 per window and £2 per bay window.

make sure you price up conservatories right - with trad it can take up alot of time.


some customers will say i only have a small house! - but you are not cleaning the bricks (at least i hope your not) some small houses can have just as much glass as bigger houses.
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Niall McAllister on November 19, 2009, 04:28:55 pm
In my humble....
don't even think about the first few houses you take on as being about the money. if you learn your trade from them and look at the mistakes you make with them, they have earned their keep ;)
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: ftp on November 19, 2009, 04:39:12 pm
I've never done a first clean of any house in twenty minutes wfp.  ???

Don't worry about the time yet, just concentrate on getting it right and doing the best you can.
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: tom2009 on November 19, 2009, 05:57:40 pm
included the patio doors for that price my thinking being that they are big simple panes and easy to do. Front door has only a small glass panel. I see the point about it not being for the money on the first few - I just want to get to a decent round up together so that I can leave the corporate organ grinding mill that i've been in for too long!
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: wizard on November 19, 2009, 06:11:43 pm
MY 1 pound buys you +- 1.5 sq metres window if its smaller its still 1 pound is still up a ladder I have a flat with 3 windows and I charge 10.50, each window is 3sq metre that comes to 9 pound  and 1.5 pound is for the height.
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: daniel worgan on November 20, 2009, 07:03:12 am
There was a wally on here recently who reckoned on doing four 4/5 bed detached houses with conservatories in one hour.... ;D
 
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Londoner on November 20, 2009, 07:32:28 am
I've never done a first clean of any house in twenty minutes wfp.  ???

Don't worry about the time yet, just concentrate on getting it right and doing the best you can.


Thats the best advice so far, take your time and do a good job. Bang on IMO. Why rush and spoil things just to stick to some silly deadline?l
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on November 20, 2009, 09:17:58 am
I've never done a first clean of any house in twenty minutes wfp.  ???

Don't worry about the time yet, just concentrate on getting it right and doing the best you can.

FTP what do you do on the first clean then?


Matt
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: JRDEasiReach on November 20, 2009, 04:50:46 pm
There was a wally on here recently who reckoned on doing four 4/5 bed detached houses with conservatories in one hour.... ;D
 

was that not 10, 9 of which were big 4/5 beds in less than 2 hours :)
Title: Re: how long?
Post by: ftp on November 20, 2009, 05:34:00 pm
I've never done a first clean of any house in twenty minutes wfp.  ???

Don't worry about the time yet, just concentrate on getting it right and doing the best you can.

FTP what do you do on the first clean then?

All the glass and frames get cleaned twice, all the doors get scrubbed, all the downstairs cills get a proper clean as does the front door cill. I then inspect as much as the glass that has dried as much as possible and maybe even scrub some areas a third time. I get it to the best I can. Even after all that it's still not good enough for me.

Title: Re: how long?
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on November 21, 2009, 07:07:17 pm
I've never done a first clean of any house in twenty minutes wfp.  ???

Don't worry about the time yet, just concentrate on getting it right and doing the best you can.

FTP what do you do on the first clean then?

All the glass and frames get cleaned twice, all the doors get scrubbed, all the downstairs cills get a proper clean as does the front door cill. I then inspect as much as the glass that has dried as much as possible and maybe even scrub some areas a third time. I get it to the best I can. Even after all that it's still not good enough for me.



Dont spend too long on it ftp remember your a business not a charity, I give the windows a pre rinse then scrub the frames, glass and sils, then I rinse loads. I will have a quick check before packing my gear up, then I am off, I always tell my customers if theres ever a problem to ring me and I will rectify it.



Matt