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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richywilts on November 16, 2009, 12:13:43 am

Title: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: richywilts on November 16, 2009, 12:13:43 am
iv got an advert in a local advertising magazine that my friend runs that goes out to thousands of schools in the district hes printed the database for me too with names and numbers of persons to contact so i can follow up the advert asking if theyd seen our advert etc and pitch them the sales blag!!

what sort of things would be best to put in a portfolio when goin round maybe to give quotes what to schools tend to ask for if anyone else has experience dealing with them i.e risk assesment, method statements etc etc

cheers guys

richy
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Sean Dyer on November 16, 2009, 07:33:02 am
it really depends becuase in some cases teh local council have the window cleaning done as part of a big council cleaning contract and in some districts they have there own budget for cleaning, so just ring and found out

in cases where they have there own budget you will find many want cut price and dont care  much about standards

im siure there are exceptions but this is what ive seen, as they only get cleaned 2, 3 , 4 times a year
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: stephen s on November 16, 2009, 07:51:54 am
first and foremost youwill need a CRB check for clearance,  you will also need public liability insurance and if you have people working with you then they need to be CRB checked as well and you will need employers liability insurance for them.

and the risk assesment and method statement as you pointed out as well.


if you have all those in place then its all down to your sales pitch,             however its always worth letting them know how flexable you  can be as a lot of schools request the cleaning out of school hours and at weekends.

I actually picked up a great little job and the head mistress told me the other w/c who went to quote clearly stated he wouldn't work sundays to do the job so now I do it.  £360 per clean 5-6 hours work.

good luck mate and let us know how you get on
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Sean Dyer on November 16, 2009, 07:57:37 am
i want asked for crb !!!

i clean mine in holidays so thats probably why ..

some want you in school time though to check you do everything!!!
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: dave0123 on November 16, 2009, 11:45:12 am
I Also imagine less schools will have it done now with a recession and there budget. think it was something like every 3/4 years round here some years back.
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Martin ccs on November 16, 2009, 01:52:55 pm
i can only speak from what ive done.

i think going direct to the schools is a waste of time.

a regualr mag may work but normally its done to the local council, with rubbish budgets.

windows i do have to be done during the six weeks summer hols, as does all the other work the schools have done.

prob is you have to wait a while to get paid! if thats good for you then i guess the mag wont do any harm.
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Sean Dyer on November 16, 2009, 01:59:48 pm
i get paid pretty quick from accounts dept. sometimes i go in adn they write cheque :)
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Martin ccs on November 16, 2009, 02:03:17 pm
i get paid pretty quick from accounts dept. sometimes i go in adn they write cheque :)

lucky you i have to wait for the stupid school admin staff to come back from summer hols to sign off aload of crappy paper work before the council even get it.

we have to do 4 infants schools and 6 primary schools.

but like i said i can only speak from what ive done.
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: daz1977 on November 16, 2009, 02:13:07 pm
a lot of schools have there won budget, they get XXXX amount of money per pupil,  the reason i know is of my misses friends is a teacher and they could only afford to pay her part time, so thats all she works

a lot of schools will use the same people for years, thats why it can be hard to get in on them, and only come up for a new person, when someone else takes over or there budget shrinks

like in any other career, i am wary of a contract that comes up that has been with the same people for years, yet they dont want to do it this time,  tesco is a prime example  as the contracters cant wait to get out of the contracts with them, as they are a pain
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Terry Bullock on November 16, 2009, 02:19:34 pm
I have only cleaned one primary school so far, but they want me back each year, so that's good.
All they asked me for was if I had public liability insurance.  It's not expensive, for £2 million cover.
It was in the summer holidays, so maybe that's why no CRB requirement.
I was paid by cheque when I finished the job.
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on November 16, 2009, 06:05:55 pm
I have only cleaned one primary school so far, but they want me back each year, so that's good.
All they asked me for was if I had public liability insurance.  It's not expensive, for £2 million cover.
It was in the summer holidays, so maybe that's why no CRB requirement.
I was paid by cheque when I finished the job.

Up you insurance it is now £10,000,000 cover needed
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Window Washers on November 16, 2009, 06:19:57 pm
I have only cleaned one primary school so far, but they want me back each year, so that's good.
All they asked me for was if I had public liability insurance.  It's not expensive, for £2 million cover.
It was in the summer holidays, so maybe that's why no CRB requirement.
I was paid by cheque when I finished the job.

Up you insurance it is now £10,000,000 cover needed
Since when  ?

We cleaned a school last month and asked for 5mill which we have.  :-\
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Mike #1 on November 16, 2009, 06:24:53 pm
the school governors and head teacher of each school are in charge of the budgets i got a school clean by been approached by the head they were fed up with been overcharged by recommended cleaner's from the county council been cleaning 2yrs now once a month
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Sean Dyer on November 16, 2009, 06:39:04 pm
i got a school that was fed up with the council recommended people

8 liverpudlians turned up during term time did it in half a day , takes us 2 and a bit

but missed loads of windows

when i did them some windows were so bad they d not been touched for years!!
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Window Washers on November 16, 2009, 06:44:34 pm
i got a school that was fed up with the council recommended people

8 liverpudlians turned up during term time did it in half a day , takes us 2 and a bit

but missed loads of windows

when i did them some windows were so bad they d not been touched for years!!
Did they have curly hair and shell suits ?

Ian
p.s anyone from this neck of the wood I am sorry if offended :-X
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on November 16, 2009, 08:27:50 pm
I have only cleaned one primary school so far, but they want me back each year, so that's good.
All they asked me for was if I had public liability insurance.  It's not expensive, for £2 million cover.
It was in the summer holidays, so maybe that's why no CRB requirement.
I was paid by cheque when I finished the job.

Up you insurance it is now £10,000,000 cover needed
Since when  ?

We cleaned a school last month and asked for 5mill which we have.  :-\

I do about 25 schools, mostly primary schools, but the one senior school I do asked for £10 million cover, this school i sub contract from a bigger company so it is not my insurance. Was told this about 18months ago. Apparantly all trades visiting that school have to have £10 million cover or don't bother turning up, my own cover is only £5 million
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Sean Dyer on November 16, 2009, 08:31:12 pm
i got a school that was fed up with the council recommended people

8 liverpudlians turned up during term time did it in half a day , takes us 2 and a bit

but missed loads of windows

when i did them some windows were so bad they d not been touched for years!!
Did they have curly hair and shell suits ?

Ian
p.s anyone from this neck of the wood I am sorry if offended :-X

I hope so

"leave it leave it"

nothing against scousers though  :)

they just werent good windies :)
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: colley614 on November 16, 2009, 10:09:17 pm
I've looked into it on the Wirral mate and one of the local cleaning firms does them all. They have about 3 trailer systems and a van mount as far as I know and about 15 window cleaners on their books.
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on November 16, 2009, 10:12:01 pm
i want asked for crb !!!

i clean mine in holidays so thats probably why ..

some want you in school time though to check you do everything!!!


I would refuse to clean them during school hours, due to H&S reasons.

Matt
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: Sean Dyer on November 16, 2009, 10:23:26 pm
well exactly

my h and s

i dont wanns be stabbed or shot :)
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: richywilts on November 17, 2009, 12:45:39 am
didnt do too bad today phone round west cheshire and got 6 quotes on im goin to have to up my public liability insurance up to 5 millions by looks of things
Title: Re: any one clean primary schools????
Post by: colley614 on November 17, 2009, 04:26:47 pm
Do you mean West Cheshire colleges mate?