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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JSMC on November 05, 2009, 08:07:58 pm

Title: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 05, 2009, 08:07:58 pm
whats the best thing to get ? duvet or some kind of jacket similar  to what is used for a water tank
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: Window Washers on November 05, 2009, 08:21:44 pm
whats the best thing to get ? duvet or some kind of jacket similar  to what is used for a water tank
When I first got my system, my wife hit the roof when I used are duvet. All I said was would you wrap one of our babies up if they were going to get cold? She said "yes ", I replied point made ;D

I slept on the sofa that week and went hungry :o
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 05, 2009, 08:43:52 pm
duvet then as the water jacket si can only find seem very small . i have 400L tank but can't find anything suitable
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: Halfadaylee on November 05, 2009, 08:48:56 pm
I always thought it was our body heat that we create and is retained by the quilt.
I don't understand how a quilt  can keep something warm that creates no heat, but would love to know
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 05, 2009, 08:55:57 pm
ideally needing something like a water jacket with a foil backing
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 05, 2009, 09:06:39 pm
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/29949/Building/Roofing-Insulation/Thermawrap-Loft-Insulation-600mm-x-7-5m

the very thing?
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: matt on November 05, 2009, 10:16:39 pm
I always thought it was our body heat that we create and is retained by the quilt.
I don't understand how a quilt  can keep something warm that creates no heat, but would love to know

this is a a valid point, you need some heat source to keep in, thus a quilt isnt going to do much
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: Window Washers on November 05, 2009, 10:20:57 pm
I always thought it was our body heat that we create and is retained by the quilt.
I don't understand how a quilt  can keep something warm that creates no heat, but would love to know

this is a a valid point, you need some heat source to keep in, thus a quilt isnt going to do much
but will keep the heat in, if there was no heat it would be frozen
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 05, 2009, 10:28:23 pm
right so will the foil insualtion work or not?
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: matt on November 05, 2009, 10:44:41 pm
I always thought it was our body heat that we create and is retained by the quilt.
I don't understand how a quilt  can keep something warm that creates no heat, but would love to know

this is a a valid point, you need some heat source to keep in, thus a quilt isnt going to do much
but will keep the heat in, if there was no heat it would be frozen

what heat would that be though ? ? ?  the heat in the water from the outside air ? ? ? ?

it would need to be very cold to freeze a block of 400 L water, and if it was that cold, a quilt wouldnt really make much difference
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 05, 2009, 10:54:30 pm
biggest probelm i feel is pump and hosing connectors. had thiught of making little box to go over it with foam on inside of it
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: jeff1 on November 05, 2009, 11:23:46 pm
This is how I insulated mine when it was in the trailer now we have a bigger tank in the van and we use the same stuff and never had a problem yet.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/Trailerpics002.jpg)
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 06, 2009, 08:34:02 am
This is how I insulated mine when it was in the trailer now we have a bigger tank in the van and we use the same stuff and never had a problem yet.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/jeffo_01/Trailerpics002.jpg)

Spot on - mine is in the back of my van with expanded foam on the sides and loft insulation on the top all covered in ply. I also put a small mains heater in the back near the pump and outlet pipes overnight.
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 06, 2009, 03:56:49 pm
as much as that a good idea not ideal for in my van i think
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: traps7 on November 06, 2009, 04:03:58 pm
I've lagged my pipes between pump, hose etc with foam pipe insulation.

I'm told it's the brush head and pole hose that freezes first though.
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: ftp on November 06, 2009, 04:10:35 pm
I found the best way to insulate my tank was to wrap a van around it!

If your tank starts freezing solid then you can kiss goodbye to your pump, your hoses and your engine block.
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: traps7 on November 06, 2009, 04:18:29 pm
That can't be right because when I was trad the small bit of water left in my bucket in the van overnight would freeze and my applicator which was in the bucket also.
So although the tank might not freeze I'm sure the hoses etc will.
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: ftp on November 06, 2009, 04:21:09 pm
I thought the post said 'tank'?
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: traps7 on November 06, 2009, 04:28:19 pm
ok fine, my mistake.
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on November 06, 2009, 04:29:37 pm
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9273744&fh_view_size=10&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=space+blanket&fh_eds=%c3%9f&fh_refview=search&ts=1257524812839&isSearch=true
2 lots of this for £8(was £6 last week) will be more than enough to insulate the biggest tank  ;)
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: windowswashed on November 06, 2009, 04:47:51 pm
The first thing to freeze are the jets on the brush, so a spare brush with jets is quite handy. Thermawrap silver foil bubble wrap is good for insulating tank and hoses.
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 07, 2009, 12:10:53 pm
i bought a small water tank jacket for covering the pump and should be ideal. also gonna ge tnaother for coveing over the hose reel.
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: cybersye on November 07, 2009, 01:32:49 pm
The first thing to freeze are the jets on the brush, so a spare brush with jets is quite handy. Thermawrap silver foil bubble wrap is good for insulating tank and hoses.
taking a thermos of hot water to work also defrosts frozen jets and brushes. ;)
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: cybersye on November 07, 2009, 01:37:36 pm
has anyone on here successfully insulated their van ie; sides and roof ?has'nt it got to be a better idea?
even if you heat your van overnight it must work more effectively
Title: Re: tank insulation
Post by: JSMC on November 07, 2009, 02:14:17 pm
some amount of condensation on inside roof of van just now