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Title: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on October 28, 2009, 07:03:32 pm
As title... My van stinks like a pond !

Having rushed my system together and into the van I never thought about floor protection :(

Its ply lined including the floor. What options are there to cover the floor ?

Need something cheap and cheerfull as I'm pretty much skint.

Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: G Griffin on October 28, 2009, 07:12:04 pm
Get some koi carp, a little bridge and maybe a small fountain.

               Sorry  :P
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Window Washers on October 28, 2009, 07:16:34 pm
about £80 protectakote, take the system out, take ply out, scratch/sand floor to give a key, paint floor (wear gloves ) dip roller in paint tin and roll it on do 2 coats 5l tin will do 2 coats, put system back in jobs a good'en, will take 1 day to dry if this weather keeps up :)
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy) on October 28, 2009, 07:17:31 pm
go to a boat chandler (chandlery) they specialise in waterproofing all kinds of surfaces including wood ;)
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: weetot on October 28, 2009, 07:24:24 pm
Get some koi carp, a little bridge and maybe a small fountain.

               Sorry  :P

 ;D
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: darragh windows on October 28, 2009, 07:27:20 pm
As title... My van stinks like a pond !

Having rushed my system together and into the van I never thought about floor protection :(

Its ply lined including the floor. What options are there to cover the floor ?




i got one of these off ebay a while back         Item number:   120484082870          2 inch lip round it holds the water then just mop it out i got mine for about £20 this ones slightly dearer
Need something cheap and cheerfull as I'm pretty much skint.


Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: weetot on October 28, 2009, 07:28:04 pm
Go to the subject: Good rubber matting for van!

Its cheap and cheerful from B&Q about 10mmm thick, black, 3-3.5ft wide and about 6ft length, youll need 2 rolls for a combovan size.

Spot on.  :D
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: EZclean on October 28, 2009, 07:31:46 pm
did mine with phenolic ply
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on October 28, 2009, 07:35:01 pm
about £80 protectakote, take the system out, take ply out, scratch/sand floor to give a key, paint floor (wear gloves ) dip roller in paint tin and roll it on do 2 coats 5l tin will do 2 coats, put system back in jobs a good'en, will take 1 day to dry if this weather keeps up :)
I done my van floor with protecta-kote at weekend very easy to use, done first  coat Saturday, next coat sunday morning, very easy to use and bloody good finish ( even if i say so myself ), only problem the van still smells of the stuff even though i am leaving the doors open for long periods.
Definately worth the £80
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Window Washers on October 28, 2009, 07:39:41 pm
about £80 protectakote, take the system out, take ply out, scratch/sand floor to give a key, paint floor (wear gloves ) dip roller in paint tin and roll it on do 2 coats 5l tin will do 2 coats, put system back in jobs a good'en, will take 1 day to dry if this weather keeps up :)
I done my van floor with protecta-kote at weekend very easy to use, done first  coat Saturday, next coat sunday morning, very easy to use and bloody good finish ( even if i say so myself ), only problem the van still smells of the stuff even though i am leaving the doors open for long periods.
Definately worth the £80
that smell lasts about 2 weeks if that  ;)
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Milltown Cleaning on October 28, 2009, 07:41:44 pm
i bought offcuts of cushion flooring and stapled it to the floor!! seems to be working ok so far but defo could be improved!! all for £10
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Window Washers on October 28, 2009, 07:45:10 pm
i bought offcuts of cushion flooring and stapled it to the floor!! seems to be working ok so far but defo could be improved!! all for £10
would not like to see the damage under that after a year or 2 m8.
same for ply hide problems they tend to bite you in the bum,
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: peter holley on October 28, 2009, 07:48:49 pm
whats a vam ???
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: advanced on October 28, 2009, 07:50:29 pm
Try  some good old garden turf  the geass will love  all that moisture
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: matt on October 28, 2009, 08:00:12 pm
i bought offcuts of cushion flooring and stapled it to the floor!! seems to be working ok so far but defo could be improved!! all for £10
would not like to see the damage under that after a year or 2 m8.
same for ply hide problems they tend to bite you in the bum,

you will be surprised

all this, pure water eats metal really fast stuff  ::) ::) ::)

if your van floor is painted i would be surprised if you see anything after a year or 2

Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: matt on October 28, 2009, 08:05:17 pm
As title... My van stinks like a pond !

Having rushed my system together and into the van I never thought about floor protection :(

Its ply lined including the floor. What options are there to cover the floor ?

Need something cheap and cheerfull as I'm pretty much skint.



take out system, 1 or 2 hours work on a saturday morning

rip up plywood ( 1 hours work )

pop to wickes and get some garage floor paint ( under 15 quid if i remember correctly )

paint floor of van, get 1 coat on before lunch ( less than 1 hour ), it will be dry after tea time, get another coat done then ( another hour )

go to bed

wake up sunday

do what you normally do on sunday

sunday late afternoon, fit system back in ( 1 or 2 hours )

all done

5 - 7 hours work, 1 weekend, less than 20 quid

pay special attention ( slap on thick ) on the joints between floor and walls of van

if your van doesnt have any drainage holes, drill a few and give a good coat of paint to before the first coat


Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on October 28, 2009, 08:45:32 pm
Thanks guys, havent got the option of taking out the tank as that is gonna take so long (the fuel tank needs removing if i do)

Longest i can go without using the back of the van is overnight.

See its a 4 seater - 2 in the front and two in the back - tank in the middle

Van doubles up as the family car and the family aint happy with the smell. I cant smell anything wrong with it, but i need to sort something out cos of all the earache im getting (from the kids)
Title: Re: The vam is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: ftp on October 28, 2009, 08:58:18 pm
Do they draw straws to sit behind the tank?
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: geefree on October 28, 2009, 09:26:03 pm
Did mine about a month ago.... my ply was stinking.

so i took the ply from the floor, bought a tin of wickes anti-slip waterproof floor paint for around a tenner,

gave it 3 coats (white)

pulled arubber bung out of the corner of the van, in case of leeks,

now its perfect...

earier tonight my ro-man in the van blew a pipe, and was pumping water all over my van for probably an hour until i noticed it gushing out of the back door,

boy am i glad i painted it.... the water has now run out completely, and its as tho it had never happened at all..

Gary.
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: rg1 on October 29, 2009, 12:52:03 pm
If you use protectakote, there's no need to take the ply-lining out. Just paint over it making sure you seal the joins.
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Window Washers on October 29, 2009, 05:50:17 pm
If you use protectakote, there's no need to take the ply-lining out. Just paint over it making sure you seal the joins.
you miss one pin hole with protectakote that the ply will act as a sponge ;)

Take the ply out
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Rogue Trader on October 29, 2009, 06:29:01 pm
Dont forget to do it when van is off road for a few days cos it really really stinks!!
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: rg1 on October 29, 2009, 06:57:08 pm
If you use protectakote, there's no need to take the ply-lining out. Just paint over it making sure you seal the joins.
you miss one pin hole with protectakote that the ply will act as a sponge ;)

Take the ply out

Painting over the ply will protect not only the floor of the van but the ply as well. ;)
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on October 30, 2009, 04:46:10 pm
If you use protectakote, there's no need to take the ply-lining out. Just paint over it making sure you seal the joins.
you miss one pin hole with protectakote that the ply will act as a sponge ;)

Take the ply out

Purefreedom just said leave the ply in as long as its sealed at joins and also not got oil stains on it, as the protecka-kote won't take on oil.

When i done mine last weekend, i was ok as it has only just been ply lined.

Also the protecta-kote is that good i can not imagine there would be any little pin holes left as it covers brilliant.
Darren
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: bee-klean on October 30, 2009, 09:29:36 pm
its ok my smell like cat wee
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Window Washers on October 30, 2009, 09:36:48 pm
If you use protectakote, there's no need to take the ply-lining out. Just paint over it making sure you seal the joins.
you miss one pin hole with protectakote that the ply will act as a sponge ;)

Take the ply out

Purefreedom just said leave the ply in as long as its sealed at joins and also not got oil stains on it, as the protecka-kote won't take on oil.

When i done mine last weekend, i was ok as it has only just been ply lined.

Also the protecta-kote is that good i can not imagine there would be any little pin holes left as it covers brilliant.
Darren
forget pin holes,  for now, just think about when you move hose     reels in and out or other items in and out of van this paint is not as hard as steel it wears quick if stuf is moved about on it a lot. this will cut through the paint and water will get in at least if there is no ply you will see the problem so can be sorted, leave ply in and it will soak it like a sponge and then the water will want to get out and the way to do this is down
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 30, 2009, 09:52:13 pm

Painting over the ply will protect not only the floor of the van but the ply as well. ;)

this will simply trap water between the ply and the van floor. It will be wet all the time so it will actually rust faster than an unprotected floor.
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: rg1 on October 30, 2009, 10:49:26 pm
Protectakote is used on floors as a health and safety measure to stop people from slipping, so surely it's ok on top of the ply. A few items moved around on it can't do much damage surely.

Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 30, 2009, 10:52:42 pm
Protectakote is used on floors as a health and safety measure to stop people from slipping, so surely it's ok on top of the ply. A few items moved around on it can't do much damage surely.



No matter how careful you are, water will get under the ply,.. then the rusting begins.
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on October 31, 2009, 08:16:53 am
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forget pin holes,  for now, just think about when you move hose     reels in and out or other items in and out of van this paint is not as hard as steel it wears quick if stuf is moved about on it a lot. this will cut through the paint and water will get in at least if there is no ply you will see the problem so can be sorted, leave ply in and it will soak it like a sponge and then the water will want to get out and the way to do this is down
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When you drag things in and out I believe you will see if the ply is damaged as well as it is soft so it will mark  ( I have had my van for about 3 months no damage to ply yet )  , so you can touch up the paint. Not only that you should be using  marine ply wood, which is waterproof, If you maintain your van properly like me, you would see any marks to floor or damage on sealing, so nothing will leak through underneath.
To me it looks you can do the protecta-cote both ways, on the ply or take out the ply, it just means you will have to keep eye on covered areas and maintain floor if its damaged which ever way you do it.......
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: geefree on October 31, 2009, 12:10:10 pm
As i posted above, why leave the ply in ,? it will cause more problems than its worth,

simply take it out and paint the metal floor.

seeemples. :)
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: Gleaming windows on October 31, 2009, 12:17:09 pm
I used to have ply on the floor of my van. It does trap water between it and the floor. I   now have rubber matting to help protect the protectokote from scuffs, knocks, wear and tear etc which can easily be removed to allow the floor beneath to be cleaned, dried etc.

Protectokote with rubber matting is my solution.
Title: Re: The van is starting to smell like a pond...
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 31, 2009, 10:40:13 pm
just change ya van every 2 yrs that will do mate