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Title: backpack
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 14, 2009, 03:54:19 pm: any advice on a backpack for use with a wfp
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Post by: tomy jackson on October 14, 2009, 03:59:15 pm: window cleaning wear house £100
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Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 14, 2009, 04:38:13 pm: cheers mate will give that a try
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Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on October 14, 2009, 07:25:50 pm: I have one of these and they are fantastic. everything I need from a backpack.
Quick delivery too.

Matt
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Post by: tacky on October 14, 2009, 09:11:59 pm: well worth the money
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Post by: ronaldo on October 14, 2009, 10:47:51 pm: The one from window cleaning warehouse is a good buy at £100 but wastes to much water compared to a shurflo one as the are no settings to regulate the speed of the water you are using, however still a nice bit of kit but we,ll be sticking to the shurflo one after trying one.
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Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on October 14, 2009, 10:50:31 pm: Quote from: ronaldo on October 14, 2009, 10:47:51 pm
The one from window cleaning warehouse is a good buy at £100 but wastes to much water compared to a shurflo one as the are no settings to regulate the speed of the water you are using, however still a nice bit of kit but we,ll be sticking to the shurflo one after trying one.

I find it is perfect as you just work faster with a faster flow.

Matt
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Post by: jouk45 on October 14, 2009, 10:56:03 pm: buy the flow controler from extend 2wash only £22 all in,
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Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 17, 2009, 06:55:39 am: was looking at shurflo just seems expensive for wat u get will try it though
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Post by: wizard on October 17, 2009, 07:03:22 am: jouk45 were will I get this flo contrl from of which you speak.
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Post by: Blue Frog Systems on October 17, 2009, 07:20:51 am: WCW backpack saw me through my first 6 months as a wfp window cleaner. Without that, I wouldn't be where I was today.

Though I have a van system now, the backpack is still used on a regular basis. I wouldn't be without it
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Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 17, 2009, 07:24:36 am: is ther any way of hooking up baqrrels of water to feed through the backpak mates thats wat i rreally are loking for to use it for
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Post by: jarvy on October 17, 2009, 08:27:41 am: I have the wcw backpack,have just fitted a 6v battery in it as i thought the flow rate was too quick. Just right now with 6v batt,doesnt empty the tank in a few mins! ;)
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Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on October 17, 2009, 08:59:53 am: To stem the flo of water why not use the tap you have with it, just open it partly and the amount of water will be reduced.

Matt
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Post by: ian1972 on October 17, 2009, 10:50:01 am: that of a trigger
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Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on October 17, 2009, 10:54:32 am: I have an on/off rectus 21 tap, my pole hose connects to it.
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Post by: Glyn H on October 17, 2009, 11:11:41 am: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180420602489&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:GB:1123

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Post by: Alistair@AWC on October 17, 2009, 11:35:23 am: Alano,

Unless you intend wearing it on your back just get one of Glynn's 35 litre trolley systems £199 (£246 with VAT & Delivery), handy little piece of kit.

Regards

Al
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Post by: LWC on October 17, 2009, 02:06:47 pm: CAnt go wrong with shurflo, had mine for years and use it every day.
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Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 17, 2009, 03:20:35 pm: probably will go for the shurflo it seems an easy bit of kit only using for top winds do others trad iv picked some good ideas from u lot keep em coming
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Post by: lee_dewing on October 17, 2009, 07:00:08 pm: re: shurflo backpack,

just wondered is shurflo up to the job using it all day long as 40 psi pump and will it pump upto say 30 ft o.k

been using wcw back pack for 3 weeks now as battery died on my freedom trolley.

I'm very impresses especially with price,has 80 psi pump :o i'm not disputing that shurflo is better just have them couple of questions, and also heard some people say shurflo is plauged with problems?
(not looking for a row ;D)

i'm so impressed with this backpack lark i can see freedom trolley being converted to a makeshift van mount system with the barrels, but i think trolley would be better for con roofs, as would be a lot of filling from barrels.

oh-yeh anyone set up a pump in van to fiil up back pack quick?

seen jouks method 15 sec fill very good, (drink dispenser 20ltr bottles)
how do you load these on van; as my barrels can be stacked 2 on sack truck and wheeled and loaded on van.

thanks all
lee (sorry to hijack post ;))

hopefully all benefit. :)
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Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 17, 2009, 07:04:15 pm: cheers glyn might go for the 35ltrtrolley
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Post by: tacky on October 17, 2009, 07:29:46 pm: wcw backpack .buy trolley bout £20 = £120
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Post by: Sean Dyer on October 17, 2009, 08:39:39 pm: shurflo is a good buy :)
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Post by: tacky on October 17, 2009, 08:47:37 pm: true
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Post by: LWC on October 17, 2009, 09:59:23 pm: re: shurflo backpack,

just wondered is shurflo up to the job using it all day long as 40 psi pump and will it pump upto say 30 ft o.k

Yes fine

been using wcw back pack for 3 weeks now as battery died on my freedom trolley.

I'm very impresses especially with price,has 80 psi pump :o i'm not disputing that shurflo is better just have them couple of questions, and also heard some people say shurflo is plauged with problems?
(not looking for a row ;D)

No probs here.

i'm so impressed with this backpack lark i can see freedom trolley being converted to a makeshift van mount system with the barrels, but i think trolley would be better for con roofs, as would be a lot of filling from barrels.

oh-yeh anyone set up a pump in van to fiil up back pack quick?

Tank and a sub pump would do that, although i just carry barrels and fill up with them

seen jouks method 15 sec fill very good, (drink dispenser 20ltr bottles)
how do you load these on van; as my barrels can be stacked 2 on sack truck and wheeled and loaded on van.

How do you mean?

thanks all
lee (sorry to hijack post ;))

hopefully all benefit. :)
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Post by: lee_dewing on October 17, 2009, 10:39:18 pm: thanks lwc.

seen jouks method 15 sec fill very good, (drink dispenser 20ltr bottles)
how do you load these on van; as my barrels can be stacked 2 on sack truck and wheeled and loaded on van.

How do you mean?
just meant my barrels are flat on sides, easy to stack on top of each other to load on sack trolley to wheel to van and load in.

jouks way; you have containers that a round so just wondered if piled onto sack truck to wheel to my van would roll off.

all my water setup is at my parents place unfortunately; have to wheel containers to van :'(

thanks again lwc.
lee
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Post by: elite mike on October 18, 2009, 08:15:54 am: hi lee
if you want a quick fill for your trolly or backpack

you wont go far wrong with one of these, connect to batt or ciggy lighter ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOHNSON-Bilge-Pump-12v-L450-778GPH-Submersible_W0QQitemZ220445124272QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_BoatEquipment_Accessories_SM?hash=item33538da6b0#ht_1048wt_859

mike
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Post by: LWC on October 18, 2009, 08:26:31 am: Oh i see about the barrels, no idea how you stack them, you probably cant on top of each other like 25 litre barrels. Jo's idea is good but not essential in my opnion.

I also run a 100m reel off my backpack no problem ;)
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Post by: R W C on October 18, 2009, 08:47:05 am: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Water-Fed-Pole-Shurflo-Backpack_W0QQitemZ150381270179QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA?hash=item23036c14a3

heres certain companys that make good products but due to the attitude I wouldnt buy there products
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Post by: Window Washers on October 18, 2009, 10:55:35 am: Quote from: Glyn H on October 17, 2009, 11:11:41 am
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Glyn,

that blue hose you have on the hoselock end in them links where can I buy this from in a reel ?
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Post by: Glyn H on October 18, 2009, 05:19:48 pm: The blue hose is our standard hose and available in 50m coils
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Post by: Clive McDonald on October 18, 2009, 05:37:34 pm: Just followed the website link and read the history page.Their is a syntax error, the word 'to' is missing.The sentence should read london underground engineer etc..... how good it would be to be able to.......
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Post by: Window Washers on October 18, 2009, 06:08:58 pm: Quote from: Glyn H on October 18, 2009, 05:19:48 pm
The blue hose is our standard hose and available in 50m coils
is that reinforced hose ? if so whats the damage for a roll or could you point me in direction to buy some :-*

Cheers
Ian
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Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 18, 2009, 07:00:59 pm: is the omni backpack the same as shurflo looks the same
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Post by: Glyn H on October 18, 2009, 07:14:05 pm: Ian
Yes it is triple wall hose, you can call to order some.

alano
They are very simular in appearance.
we use an 80psi pump with an 8 AH battery and a 1000 MA battery charger.
The Shurflo uses a 40 psi PSI pump with a 7 AH battery and a 500 MA battery charger.
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Post by: leapstallbuildings on October 18, 2009, 07:30:56 pm: Quote from: Al S on October 17, 2009, 11:35:23 am
Alano,

Unless you intend wearing it on your back just get one of Glynn's 35 litre trolley systems £199 (£246 with VAT & Delivery), handy little piece of kit.

Regards

Al

That sounds like a decent deal.

As for the shurflo backpack, maybe I got unlucky but mine was aggravation and didn't last long. Also, when trying to get it working again, there was no way of knowing which flow setting it was on (or even if it was on at all). This is because the button has four settings and you go from one setting to the next by pushing the button again (which is inconveniently sited underneath the BP). There is no indicator to tell you which setting you are on. No problem in normal use but a pain if it's giving trouble and regularly cutting out.
I found the WCW bp just fine. Only one (fairly low) setting but it seems to be enough. I have a hozelock type flow controller on the end if I need to turn it down a bit but I feel that I wouldn't want it set any lower anyway. I stop it a fair bit with the on/off switch so it remains to be seen how durable that is.
I can't comment on the Omnipole offerings as I've not tried them but past experience with their products is a positive indicator. That 35 litre trolley sounds a lowish price for what it is.
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Post by: lee_dewing on October 18, 2009, 08:22:46 pm: thanks lwc

thanks mike for the link to submersible pump, just wondering can i use this as i have barrels, is there a way of making it work or is it a pump that needs to sit in the bottom of a water tank?
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Post by: LWC on October 18, 2009, 09:40:52 pm: That sort of pump needs to go in a tank...if your just using barrels mate, just tip em in!!
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Post by: elite mike on October 19, 2009, 05:34:50 pm: Quote from: lee_dewing on October 18, 2009, 08:22:46 pm
thanks lwc

thanks mike for the link to submersible pump, just wondering can i use this as i have barrels, is there a way of making it work or is it a pump that needs to sit in the bottom of a water tank?

sorry lee

thought you had a tank ::) ;)
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Post by: lee_dewing on October 20, 2009, 10:44:39 pm: thanks
lee
:)
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Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 24, 2009, 07:50:03 am: got me backpack thurs took it out yesterday after a good charge done a 6 bed hse in 45 mins great stuff usualy takes trad style 1 hr and half got me resin vessell filtered down to 4 tds reading the idea i have is to run barrels water into backpack on a constant water feed thinking on the lines of filling bpk hgalf full and having a trickle feed from barrels any ideas men!!! 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: LWC on October 24, 2009, 08:58:38 am: Fill the backpack up...use it, go back to car and pour in, use it...go back to car pour another one in...etc etc
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Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on October 24, 2009, 12:00:07 pm: prob easier that way really
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Post by: LWC on October 24, 2009, 01:08:40 pm: Dont over complicate things!! Said it time and time again on here...make the water pure...and get it to the window...and thats it!!