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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 12:34:58 pm

Title: heated water
Post by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 12:34:58 pm
is it posible to heat the water in the tank of my van by useing the heat from the engine ,or by the van heater itself .
the ones for sale are too much money for me to buy one about £ 1,200.
if the water was heated just a few degrees it would make all the difrance to the cleaning of windows .
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: tomy jackson on October 13, 2009, 12:43:28 pm
L5 £ 120 deliverd to england £20 gas £16 new reg  ,
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 12:51:56 pm
whats L5 ?? i was thinking of fitting a emerstion coil in tank 1/2hour befor i start switch it on and heat  the water.
or 12 volt one heats as i go along.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: Murdie window cleaning on October 13, 2009, 01:08:47 pm
You would think that it would be possible to have a tank with a heating eliment built in and run it off the van battery or some sort of geni or dynamo conected to the engine.

I'm no expert in these kind of things but surley has to be a cheaper option than retro fitting a heating system.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: GWCS on October 13, 2009, 01:29:05 pm
L5 £ 120 deliverd to england £20 gas £16 new reg  ,

I take it you have not got this covered on your insurance for use within your vehicle.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ian1972 on October 13, 2009, 01:35:32 pm
running hot water through your pump will damage it,the l5 is a on demand water heater goes after the pump and you can have as hot a water as you want
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: GWCS on October 13, 2009, 02:19:39 pm
is it posible to heat the water in the tank of my van by useing the heat from the engine ,or by the van heater itself .
the ones for sale are too much money for me to buy one about £ 1,200.
if the water was heated just a few degrees it would make all the difrance to the cleaning of windows .

yes you use a calorific exchange unit - the water from the cooling system goes thru that and heats a second water system that runs through the exchange (the pure water) and heats that on the way to the pump.

you will then need to uprate the pump as most only work to about 50 C

In thoery it can work, but its going to be very expensive to retrofit. far better off using a properly installed deisel system as using lpg systems not professionally fitted and not following legal requirements will not be covered by insurance.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 02:21:58 pm
running hot water through your pump will damage it,the l5 is a on demand water heater goes after the pump and you can have as hot a water as you want


only if the water is boiling point , if the water is warm like how you would have a bath in its OK.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ian1972 on October 13, 2009, 03:14:35 pm
dont see how you can fit a L5 wrong ,water in water out and gas on a regulator thats the same as any basic bbQ or gass heater,and as for the insurance i still dont see the problem as you are fitting what is classed as a tempory unit as its made for using outside your not acctully moding the van are you?because if thats classed as a mod to the van so must b the complete wfp setup as it is bolted to the floor.mayb i am wrong but if you put the deisel 1 in that is a mod to the van as your bracking into the deisel tank
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: LWC on October 13, 2009, 04:20:09 pm
L5 £ 120 deliverd to england £20 gas £16 new reg  ,

I take it you have not got this covered on your insurance for use within your vehicle.

Love these comments...yawn.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: LWC on October 13, 2009, 04:24:34 pm
running hot water through your pump will damage it,the l5 is a on demand water heater goes after the pump and you can have as hot a water as you want


only if the water is boiling point , if the water is warm like how you would have a bath in its OK.


Thats correct, i found some info the other day, LIQUID TEMPERATURE: 180 Degrees Fahrenheit (82 Degrees Centigrade) Max, that is too hot to use anyway, so pump would be fine.

Ionics systems have hot water in tank and then go through pump so explain that one.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: DaveG on October 13, 2009, 05:44:16 pm
Who sells L5's?
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 06:01:30 pm
dr lwc do you know if its OK through the resin warm , my system is in the van and the water goes from tank to pump then the resin then hose , would the warm water harm the resin ????.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: LWC on October 13, 2009, 08:07:19 pm
A while ago i tried filling the van through the DI with hot water tap and it was fine, i cant tell you if it is ok to do, but it worked fine for me with no probs.

To be honest how could it do any damage? Its only water...thats hot/warm
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: pingu on October 13, 2009, 08:22:08 pm
here is a link.... 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eccotemp-L5-Portable-Tankless-Hot-Water-Heater-Shower_W0QQitemZ350264438423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518d632e97&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: GWCS on October 13, 2009, 08:28:06 pm
L5 £ 120 deliverd to england £20 gas £16 new reg  ,

I take it you have not got this covered on your insurance for use within your vehicle.

Love these comments...yawn.

Sorry i just wanted to point out you WILL invalidate you insurance if you use a L5 with LPG which HAS NOT been installed professionally and been covered by your insurance.

But as most people probably dont seem to care, I will resit in trying to advise anyone in the matter again.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: tomy jackson on October 13, 2009, 08:35:12 pm
iv got a leter off my insorace to say that its coved ,woce theyd got ther head ronwd wot i wos useing it for ,
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 08:40:44 pm
i still recon a immersion heater fitted in tank
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: tomy jackson on October 13, 2009, 08:48:26 pm
its bin dun befor and not bin overly sukseful
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 08:52:50 pm
have you tried it
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: LWC on October 13, 2009, 08:53:55 pm
L5 £ 120 deliverd to england £20 gas £16 new reg  ,

I take it you have not got this covered on your insurance for use within your vehicle.

Love these comments...yawn.

Sorry i just wanted to point out you WILL invalidate you insurance if you use a L5 with LPG which HAS NOT been installed professionally and been covered by your insurance.

But as most people probably dont seem to care, I will resit in trying to advise anyone in the matter again.

Just board of the comments on this board like this sorry, its up to them what they do and you implied thats what he was doing...i couldnt care less what YOU or anyone else wants to do, its up to them.

Dont worry about it...mates?  ;D lol
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: LWC on October 13, 2009, 08:54:56 pm
i still recon a immersion heater fitted in tank

Running off what?
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: DaveG on October 13, 2009, 08:57:39 pm
here is a link.... 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eccotemp-L5-Portable-Tankless-Hot-Water-Heater-Shower_W0QQitemZ350264438423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518d632e97&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Cheers
Dave.

Cheers Dave
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 08:58:42 pm
fit the  immersion in the tank ,then 1 houre befor you start work plug in to maines lecky , off you go loads warm water ,  ;D remembering to unplug before you go .
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: LWC on October 13, 2009, 08:59:54 pm
fit the  immersion in the tank ,then 1 houre befor you start work plug in to maines lecky , off you go loads warm water ,  ;D

I thought about this too mate, never got round to doing it but people put me off by saying it cains electricity...?
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: ccmids on October 13, 2009, 09:01:26 pm
not if its low watt one
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: G Griffin on October 13, 2009, 09:03:24 pm
LWC,

            Doctor today? You`re like Mr. Benn  ;D.
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: tomy jackson on October 13, 2009, 09:11:06 pm
no but ther wer lods on hear and on acs abot it last year and on the topic of useing the colent out of van
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: LWC on October 13, 2009, 09:34:19 pm
Well i filled with hot water and it worked a treat  ;)

Not as hot as the boileri had a go with admitedly, but warm/hotish all the same  :)
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: dean123 on October 13, 2009, 11:16:02 pm
plug your heating system in to van via a indirect cylinder and this can be done if yuor near enough the house

yes immersions are 3kw same as an electric kettle so will run yuor bill up
Title: Re: heated water
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 14, 2009, 08:26:55 am
My insurance are aware of my heater and although my renewal this year went up €100, I am covered specifically for this.