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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: CBCS on October 11, 2009, 04:00:51 pm
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When employing what hourly rate do you pay? Any bonuses?
Or do you pay a percentage of the work done?
If sub-contracting, how does that work?
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i dont no whats its like down ur way.iam moveing to bridlinton in 2 weeks so i will like to no aswell. up here if ur subing its 60 to me 40 percent to u. as for wage £6 an hour to someone training £10 to some one who is well expercrs hope that helps a bit
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You will get what you pay for. Dont expect a 1st class service if you pay peanuts.
I would also not take on anyone who has been a window cleaner before, they have bad habits. If you take on someone who is new you can get them to do it the way you want.
As for payment I would give them minimum wage + a bonus for doing a full week without any problems
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The reason why I ask is I'm in a position where its takes two of us 8 weeks to get around my 4 weekly round.
This is not good, I'm not earning what I should be am I?
What would you do?
I've had this round 12 years now, its a great round, loyal customers, known by many, great payers. I just need to know where to go from here?
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This is not good, I'm not earning what I should be am I
Are your prices ok
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Yes, good prices for both me and the customer!
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employ or sell
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move them all to 8 weekly and carry on building, ;)
seriously , sounds like you do need that extra man tho
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If you let it go at 8 weeks for too long you will get some funny looks when you manage to get it back down to 4 weeks again. The custy will get used tot he schedule and not be happy paying out twice as often as they were.
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i dont no whats its like down ur way.iam moveing to bridlinton in 2 weeks so i will like to no aswell. up here if ur subing its 60 to me 40 percent to u. as for wage £6 an hour to someone training £10 to some one who is well expercrs hope that helps a bit
Ducky who is paying £10 an hour up that way? Prices half them charge their lucky to turnover £10 per hour.
I pay my son a guaranteed 30 hours per week at minimum wage plus a 4 weekly bonus equivalent to a weeks wage if all work is done in the 4 week clean period, which it always is. Any days the weather is extreme its a case of he is getting paid so he drops leaflets.
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I pay £340 a week
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I tend to go for people who owe me a favour,
They work for nothing ;)
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I tend to go for people who owe me a favour,
They work for nothing ;)
dave you tight arse you could pay double that what your on ;D
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I pay £340 a week
including hols etc
is that 340 x 52??
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tam when i was woring in edinburgh i was on £12 an hour my mate in perth is on £10 an hour. in fife my mate on £8 an hour plus more if he does more work :D
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If you let it go at 8 weeks for too long you will get some funny looks when you manage to get it back down to 4 weeks again. The custy will get used tot he schedule and not be happy paying out twice as often as they were.
Thats what I mean, what would you do?
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When I eventually take on staff, I would pay them £280 per week and if they hit their quota for that week they will receive a further £70.
If they gain a customer they will get 100% of the price of the first clean, like a bonus and an incentive.
Matt
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When I eventually take on staff, I would pay them £280 per week and if they hit their quota for that week they will receive a further £70.
If they gain a customer they will get 100% of the price of the first clean, like a bonus and an incentive.
Matt
sounds about right :)
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Yes £340 for 52 weeks of the year
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Gis a job dave :)
Do you not incentivise them or do you find they work well anyway??
If they arent pulling there weight what would you do ?
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the incentive is keep doing a good job or your sacked, simple as that.
I dont play games, I am honest and fair and expect the same back in return.
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Thats fair enough mate
You just read so much about incentivize etc on here, i pay a day rate at minute and dont think he would work any faster just because he can earn a bit more, i suppose its down to the individual i reckon incentivizing and percentages are good for subbying, or ambitious people, but there the ones that will leave and set up anyway 99% of time
Most jobs pay x amount week in and out and if you want more you do over time
Good to see that someone has good staff with normal wage
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the incentive is keep doing a good job or your sacked, simple as that.
I dont play games, I am honest and fair and expect the same back in return.
thats a lot easier said than done these days dave with the employment law as it is ,may be you have been lucky but be careful how you go about getting rid of staff as if one takes you to a tribunal it can be very expensive.
believe me the employment law is a complete joke and even with good reason to get rid of somebody its not that easy.
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im paid £12 an hour and also keep company van at home and use it for my own use
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im paid £12 an hour and also keep company van at home and use it for my own use
when will you leave and set up on your own ??
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Been thinking about setting up my own window cleaning business as i already do patio cleaning (part time) but not sure if it’s too risky
I would like to have new van with all new equipment, good advertising. I can afford all this but don’t know what’s stopping me. Think i need someone to push me to start that. I think about this almost everyday when i see how much money my boss is taking (£300-£400) per day on domestic work and much more on commercial
Not sure how long it will take me to make some money . will need 100s of customers to make a living
What is your experience when starting window cleaning?
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i have had my own run i had it for 3 years i sold up and work for a company for £300 a week and it is more easy and less of a headache
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so he pays you top money and even lets you use the the van and your loyalty is were,?? i hope he eads this site and gets rid of you!!!
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i have the van is well i do what i want with it but one think i have learned is DO NOT BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS U
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ducky your the type of employee i need!!!!!! :)
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i have had my own run i had it for 3 years i sold up and work for a company for £300 a week and it is more easy and less of a headache
well if you werent earning that in at least 3 days then you are better off mate :)
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Been thinking about setting up my own window cleaning business as i already do patio cleaning (part time) but not sure if it’s too risky
I would like to have new van with all new equipment, good advertising. I can afford all this but don’t know what’s stopping me. Think i need someone to push me to start that. I think about this almost everyday when i see how much money my boss is taking (£300-£400) per day on domestic work and much more on commercial
Not sure how long it will take me to make some money . will need 100s of customers to make a living
What is your experience when starting window cleaning?
your bosses life isnt as easy as you think mate
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thanks ronnie its is true tho mate u have to come and go, i worked with the last company i did every thing i run that for them and got nothing back i run the workers the paper work all the priceing the jobs and never even got a thank u when i left. i just had a nuff of it. when i get a job again i will just be a worker
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sean i was making more than £500 in a week on my own but u try getting every penny back in and paper work wages tax insurce to name but a few
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If i decide to set up my own window cleaning business i will never do anything to damage their business or try to take their customers. I will start from scratch, my van, my equipment, flyers etc
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ronnie
sending you email
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Ducky
I know what you mean mate
cash flow is no.1 killer of businesses
sounds like you are capable mate, , maybe bad timing
dont write off trying again
wasnt trying to insult you :)
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and???????
my new contract i having done prevents my emploees from starting up on there own amongst other things.
but to many employees seek employment when there struggling and a employee gives them a chance they learn every thing from there employer and then do one with out any considerations for the chance they were given by there boss.
let me tell you i have to take £240 a day before i make a profit...........so dont just look at what your cleaning and think WOW(i want some of that)
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no probs pal
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thanks sean i do not want to do it again mate me and the wife and kids are moveing down to east yorkshire . i just want to be with a company who i can help to grow and get a good wage for it
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fair enough, every business needs an employee
you sound like a good un, when i get big enough you can come and grow mine :)
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stand in line sean im first
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thanks sean and ronnie u both sound like good guys
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haha
we will come to an arrangement, you can have him mon- wed morning, (sounds like a divorce lol)
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me and my mate were have a beer on sat nite and i was adding up how much new work power washing and window cleaning i have got them sinc i started in feb and it come to £17600 now that was good going
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are those one offs??
or regular contracts??
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thats regular work mate one is a currys job when they get refit i go down and wash all building down and power wash all pathes 5 hours work at the most if not less £1100 each job if the building is bigger then more money i have done 12 of them. window cleaning i have pick up alot they had my number to book when they wanted done. now they phone me asking me to go back cos they dont like who he has got doing it but i will not go back cos i dont think thats right its his work cos i picket it up wheen i was working for him
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ducky how did you get the jobs???
i cant believe that they would treat you like that, they should t least pay a commision
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ducky how did you get the jobs???
i cant believe that they would treat you like that, they should t least pay a commision
you dont get commision ducky?
i had a interview with canvasser and weekend and she never showed up or contacted me :(
and she would of made a fortune i dont understand it!!?
doing my own now, screw em
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no never got commison never even got a thank u when i left. i got the first job throw huw at seerclean then the guy from currys just wanted me to do them all there are more comeing up i think so i will be passing them on cos the guy i worket for does not want to do them now that iam not working there
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sean ur better doing it ur self any way that way u no what price u want for that job
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sean ur better doing it ur self any way that way u no what price u want for that job
well i came to that conclusion after i started writing a pricing structure and realising its impossible for someone to gauge all the factors that come into pricing your business
just hard trying to do everything
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Ducky
Going to jump in on this one. I will work with you on making the Currys contract a success. Do not let this opportunity pass you by. I will provide you with all equipment, what you want to earn and we can make it a success for both of us.
This is what I do, day in, day out. I will get you up to speed, best equipment. We need to chat!!
Rob ;D
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m-clean send me a email mate
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You have mail
Rob ;D
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rob thats not fair :'(
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Ronnie
Sorry if I have jumped in here but the reality of what has been posted is that Ducky has an opportunity to turn this to his advantage, he has proven that he is honest and can be trusted and I want to work with individuals like him.
I don't know if he can work this alone, whether he has the equipment or the ability. If he wants to work it on his own I am happy to offer support and advice.
If he is looking to share the work then I believe that with three years refurbishment cleaning experience, at the highest level, offering multiple services then he will have the confidence of someone who knows what they are talking about, to provide risk/method statements, working procedures, health and safety awareness, professional kit that is up to the task and someone alongside him that will work harder at making this a success than he is used to.
I clean all of my works and I do what it takes to get the job done. I see you as a mate Ronnie and do not want to upset anyone but I have a vast amount of experience doing refurb cleaning and have all of the set up in place.
Rob ;D
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sorry rob only just read and it was in tongue in cheek.
all though it sounds very profitable and i love profit i havent at the moment got the time or the work force.
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ronnie u are a good guy and i hope u all the best. rob i have tryed to phone u 2x my number starts with 01738
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Ducky
I have been in my phone and you are correct. I was beginning to wonder what was going on. I will contact you tomorrow now, in the morning.
Rob ;D
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rob,
good effort there mate,
dean