Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Daria Taylor on October 01, 2009, 09:34:00 pm
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I dont know whether the business owner of this site and company is registered on here but i was browsing net for prices and came across them http://www.daisyclean.co.uk/prices and thought that their prices are very low, and they in London, so when i think that we are in yorkshire and our prces are much higher it makes me wonder may be we too pricey?
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Doubt they'll be in business long at that rate but they don't supply materials or equipment at 9 per hour.
BTW Dash, I had an enquiry for Doncaster the other day. It may be dead by now but if you drop me a line or give me a ring I'll pass on the details as its too far for us.
Cheers
Diane
www.freshlymaid.co.uk
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Sounds about right to me TBH, lets not forget that although the cost of living in London is high, there is no shortage of labour for jobs like cleaning.
The service these people are providing makes it sound more like the agency style of doing business, rather than a complete 'service' that many provide.
At £9 per hour you can bet your life the cleaner will be self-employed or, more to the point, will be SUPPOSED to be self employed (read between the lines there, if you like), with the agreed amount of wage paid to the cleaner by the client (lets say £6 per hour) with the remainder paid monthly to the agency.
It's an age-old situation, and whilst i don't live in London myself, i would find it hard to believe that clients' attitudes to domestic cleaning will be any different to any other parts of the country, that is to say that they won't be 'price shopping' when looking for a cleaner to work in their homes, they'll be looking for someone who they trust and if possible comes personally recommended by someone they know.
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Doubt they'll be in business long at that rate but they don't supply materials or equipment at 9 per hour.
www.freshlymaid.co.uk
Don't under-estimate it Diane! The domestic cleaning side is clearly an add-on for these people, and as i said above, the cleaners will very likely be self-employed. If so, these guys can attract around £2-£3 an hour just by arranging to send a cleaner.
The question is, "is the aggrovation of doing this worth the money it brings in?". I'm not sure either way :-\
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vacman, i still think their prices are too low, even if they was to sub they work out, they will be making peanuts, so it will not be worth the hassle. i mean all the materials etc cost money, and i cant see self employed cleaners bringing their own at £6 and hour.
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We were asked to quote for an office clean earlier this week.
The job was two hours per week (Friday 17:30 - 19:30). We were to provide all materials and equipment, as we always do, and we were not to be allowed to store anything on site. They also insisted on CRB checked staff only.
Discussions didn't progress to far after they advised their best quote thus far had been £20 and they wanted lower!!!!!
I wouldn't touch such a small job for this amount. If we had cleaners in the building or at least near then I may have gone as low as £25 (+VAT) job and finish with a max agreed time of two hours and then I wouldn't have necessarily committed to the specific timings.
In my opinion it is not worth dealing with such Customers.
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Ian,
i fully agree with that, end of the day there's market for everything and to suite veryone i guess, different type of people and businesse some prepared to pay some want it for nothing, and most of them will get it their way. the only reason i put this up is because to see what people actually think, and once again it proved that opinions vary.
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vacman, i still think their prices are too low, even if they was to sub they work out, they will be making peanuts, so it will not be worth the hassle. i mean all te materials etc cost money, nd i cant see self emplayed cleaners bringing their own at £6 and hour.
Dash,
i hear what you are saying BUT that website speaks for itself and up & down the country there are no end of cleaning 'agencies' who are charging the same; Belle Casa, Time For You, Maid 2 Clean, to name three of the biggest national agencies.
I am not saying you are wrong to question how much money is being made, what I am saying is that it clearly must work for them as they've been around for years. As i said, if the cleaners are earning around £6-£6.50 per hour and are self-employed, then the remainder of the fee goes to the agency. So the agency picks up between £2-£3 per hour per cleaner, for doing very little.
Materials DO cost money and the client will have to provide them. Even on the webiste you showed us it said that materials are provided at EXTRA cost. I kind-of get the impression that yoyu didn't like my answer (sorry if i've misinterpreted your reply), but you asked how they do it and thats what i was telling you....
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vacman, i didnt have anything against your answer at all,infact i though it was well said, is just that whilst doing my studies i worked for simular company, just to got me throuh, you know student job. and i kow how this companies operate, jobs dont get property etc, and theystill making loads of money for nothing. so i do completelly agree with what you said, and see where you coming from,and all i was saying back isthat surely they cant be that good for that amount of money. Thats all :)
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Dash
Ahhh right fair enough, sorry. I suppose the quality of the work may possibly be questionable, yes you could say that. I think more so though that with an agency the client may be more likely to 'poach' the cleaner, because afterall, once they get a cleaner who they like they could very well question what it is that they pay the agency for.....ok so they get holiday and sick cover, but in my experience clients would sooner go without a cleaner at all for the short period that their regular reliable cleaner is away for, rather that 'break in' a new one, added to which it may be a considerable time before the cleaner takes time off, thus rendering any real 'benefit' of using the agency useless.
I think cleaning companies who provide staff on their payroll and who provide cleaning equipment are less likely to have their staff poached, and yet even then it does still happen (been there done that :-\ ) so it must be worse for the agencies.
But taking the rough with the smooth, i guess the amount of money the cleaners brings in for them over-all off-sets what the cleaners cost them. As i say, it's all money for doing very little, with no holiday or sick pay to shell out for if the staff are self-employed.
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its got to be cheap labour ;)
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I charge £9.90 domestic pay £6.25 do you think i should put mine up? :) :)
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I charge £9.90 domestic pay £6.25 do you think i should put mine up? :) :)
That would depend on what you are providing for the £9.90 and how happy/loyal/effective your cleaners are on £6.25 per hour.
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I charge £9.90 domestic pay £6.25 do you think i should put mine up? :) :)
That would depend on what you are providing for the £9.90 and how happy/loyal/effective your cleaners are on £6.25 per hour.
Regular Domestic and domestic we pay £6.25 and they are well experienced cleaners before we take them on. The going rate around our area is £6.00
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And what do your clients get for the £9.90?
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A very good clean, skirting, touch points, full kitchen clean, full bathroom clean, damp wipe, polish, what ever they want us to do in the time.
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A very good clean, skirting, touch points, full kitchen clean, full bathroom clean, damp wipe, polish, what ever they want us to do in the time.
Sorry, i should have explained, i mean do they get the labour only, or does that price include cleaning products, equipment, insurances etc ?
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i would have thought only labour, as you'd never make money if including cleaning materials.
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i would have thought only labour, as you'd never make money if including cleaning materials.
which is why i was asking ::)
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A very good clean, skirting, touch points, full kitchen clean, full bathroom clean, damp wipe, polish, what ever they want us to do in the time.
Sorry, i should have explained, i mean do they get the labour only, or does that price include cleaning products, equipment, insurances etc ?
We use our own products but our teams are mobile cleaners the products get shared with other clients or they use clients products if they request, most do. Insurance included equipment, we don't make a lot but make enough but we try and stay away from domestic regular cleans and stick with one off.
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If the prices are under £10 then assume an agency; paying min wage and client supplied materials.
I started at 12.75 (all materials, liability AND fidelity bonded) per hour....
I now charge 14.50....more work than I can cope with (even with 3 more staff), still recruiting and turning work away (ouch!)
I dont care what those around me charge, I really couldnt care less. We spend 8 weeks training staff, provide uniforms, signwritten cars, pay above minimum wage and guarantee the service. We always get fantastic feedback and only lost 1 client when they changed jobs.
Offer a good service, invest in your staff and believe in yourself.