Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: YWCS on September 30, 2009, 09:23:45 pm
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new upvc frame ,
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A customer has used a green kitchen scourer to clean some marks from her wood effect upvc door, this has left a worse mark than before, is there any way to fix it?
what type of worse mark?
a scratch or just spread the original mark?
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whats the answer then i cant think of any but change the frame if its scratched,what ever you do there will be a change in the shade of the upvc.
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get her to make you a cuppa and use the used t bag ;D
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boot polish?
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t cut or paint
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im trying to help
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T CUT is good IDEA { t cut with a cuppa}
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i dont know but it sounds good to me dont you think , if it works let us know dont forget who thought of it first ;D
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dont mention it , i gonna have a beer now speak to morra.
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woodgrain upvc is just a plastic veneer, like a printed film. My advise is don't use anything like T-cut or you will run the risk of making it worse
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glenn where abouts are you in gods own country?can help you in this-kevin
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My windows are woodgrain effect PVC. The actual woodgrain is a very thin film of plastic, a bit like the stuff you used to buy in Woolies, I think it was called fablon. You just peeled off the backing paper and stuck it on.
I damaged our back door sill when installing a washing machine, very surprised to see just how thin that stuff is. Rubbing won't help, it's as thin as paper.
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It’s a foil veneer and once it’s penetrated it damaged for life replace the frame. What think might work but it would need great skill would to apply a coat of dark oak varnish but very thin and allow to dry between coat the brush must be nearly dry ( do not put a lot on at a Time and the finish must be a matt finish. You would need to blend it in.)
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Just go over it with a brown marker, just dabbing it on gently let it dry and keep repeating it until you get a colour match. Ive done this on furniture and works ok so cant see a window frame being much harder. ;D ;D
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no problem,could repair this for you-or show you how to do this so you could generate some more work,we use waxes(same as the furniture guys use)and have been well tested,usally you cannot tell where the repair has been done,we also remove dents/marks from white pvc-u aswell if anyone is intrested in this kind of thing i'll share the knowlege on this forum as a way of "giving back"for all the tips i'ved had to press,also how to restore white pvc back to looking new-cheaply-kevin
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get her to make you a cuppa and use the used t bag ;D
:P ;D ;D
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Hi Kevinc I for one would be very interested to learn more about restoreing P V C so m8 come tell.
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id be intrested as well ,
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Try WD40 it works on grey, black and brown guttering.
Matt
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get her to call the "plastic surgon"
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:D ok then,please bear in mind during the day i'm a window fitter and over the last two years i've been trying all sorts of cleaners(i used all sorts of things on customers old windows and when we go back to them in say six months time to do another i check to see how they are)the ONLY thing which works and stays clean for over a year is morrisons cream cleaner with bleach(must have the bleach added)this works better than anything else i've tried its similar to the cream cleaner for pvc you can buy which is really jif or cif cleaner the added thing is an old pan scrubber the green plastic ones with a sponge on the other side.
method wet the frame well apply the cream cleaner to the sponge and scrub well you'll see it coming clean straight away-keep the frame wet if you can-makes the job quicker
once you've cleaned the frame either wfp it to rinse it all off or hose pipe it-this option is better(for the pole)then clean as normal
the results you can get are brilliant-i overlook one house i did last year and they were manky yet after a year they still look as good if not better than the neighbours ones try it on your own windows first to see the results mate-kevin
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yep new frames mate
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Theres a solvent that most double glazing companies use called type10 its a strong solvent that removes top layer, used to use it loads in days of doing build cleans. made by company called worth.
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Once the finish has been compromised on the wood effect upvc there is nothing you can do, any stain of any kind will just make the area darker, which is no good on a plastic veneer as it makes the "WHOLE" patch darker by the same shade. This is ok on a veneer that is all one uniform shade or colour, but on doors & frames etc there are different shades and colours to give the wood grain effect.
Your customer is going to have to take it on the chin I'm afraid :-\ :-\
Regards restoring white upvc; if you clean them as stated, how does it effect any oxidization levels?
Without personally knowing so, I would have thought that even though the window frames may look like new, they will surely continue to oxidize??
Ian
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hi ian,in relation to oxidisation it all depends on the quality of the pvc,any 1980's or early 90's frames the pvc was extruded slowly so was of good quality ie rehau,kommerling,plastmo,halo etc.some mid 1990's pvc was crap to be fair/extruded really quick and has a coarse/gritty finish to it thankfully quality seems to have improved somewhat since then,its early days for me but judging by the results on homes i've done i don't think i'll be doing the frames again for a few more years to come one after two years is still spot on and looks pretty new even though some are over 12 years old-some even older-hope this helps