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Title: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on May 23, 2005, 07:37:30 pm
i have never touched the real thing . these are 100 years old. persian rugs. whats the best way to clean them. any help would e gratefull. :'(
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Karl Wildey on May 24, 2005, 10:28:00 am
Depending on size these can be very, very expensive, so you have got to be very confident you can clean this.

Vacuum like mad, back and front, test colours for colour run, prespray, clean with a neutral/acidic cleaner, and dry with turbo as fast as you can.

This should stop any problems. Rug are easy to clean if you know what you are doing, but it when it starts to go wrong them you are in big trouble. As Barry has mentioned in other posts
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on May 24, 2005, 07:38:48 pm
thanks carl i think i will leave them alone.
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Barry Pearce on May 24, 2005, 08:21:43 pm
Come on Sherlock 89.
live and lean, the worst that can happen is that feeling of your hairs on the back of your neck go stiff and cold, and you will never do that again but that is if, if you make a mistake, but do it slowly and methodicly as karl has said and learn.
Barry
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on May 24, 2005, 08:28:03 pm
barry they have told me there worth a couple of thou each costl mistake if i go wrong, still maybe see if ive got the bottle.sherlock :-[
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Karl Wildey on May 24, 2005, 08:31:51 pm
If you going go for it, you may as well start with the big expensive ones.  :o :o :o
From now on, all other rugs will be easier, but you will always have to be careful, always.
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: mark_roberts on May 24, 2005, 10:32:10 pm
If its colour fast then its easy.

Best to clean them in your workshop though ie. your garage, shed, front room.

If there not too dirty a really good vac and a wipe down with a microsplitter and terry towels can work wonders on the iffy rugs.

Mark
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on May 24, 2005, 10:59:19 pm
mark when tou say wipe down do i prespray the ms or what ??? ???
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: CPL on May 24, 2005, 11:10:00 pm
The V & A in London uses rain water and bare feet! Not joking.
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: John Kelly on May 25, 2005, 02:12:26 pm
Our workshop is an old school gym changing room. The showers at the back end are still in tact, an ideal room for cleaning rugs. In the past when I did quite a lot of rug cleaning I used to lie them face down and beat the back before vacuuming. This loosened all the dirt which was evident when you lifted the rug. They were then cleaned with Chemspec oriental rug shampoo and rinsed out using a hose pipe, honest, they were then squeegeed dry and finally extracted, this rinsing often took 3-4 goe's before the water ran clear. Finally they were hung up to dry. All rugs were tested for colour fastness, most were usually allright. Never had a problem with any of them and customers were delighted with the result. A lot of these rugs are actually washed in streams after manufacture.
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: strakercleaning on May 25, 2005, 07:45:36 pm
Never had a problem with a rug, always cleaned as if it were upholstery first.
Heavy marks can stand a second go once dried.
The more you vacuum it, the less effort it will take on the rinse.
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on May 25, 2005, 08:57:44 pm
thanks for the info. doing them tomorow,
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: mark_roberts on May 25, 2005, 09:12:13 pm
Sherlock

Mist lightly the MS onto the rug and then towel off in the direction of the pile.  Dampen the towel if required.  Turbo dry although it wont be wet anyway.

Pre-vac is a must.

John Kelly - what did you beat the rugs with.  Ive tried this in the past with a plank but not much success.

thanks
Mark
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on May 25, 2005, 09:43:36 pm
thanks mark that seems to be the best way.
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: John Kelly on May 25, 2005, 11:03:48 pm
Mark

I used a thick bamboo cane like the ones inside rolls of carpet, cut down to about 1 metre. Also the vacuuming on the back with a beater bar dislodges a lot of dirt.
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Barry Pearce on May 26, 2005, 07:07:09 am
There used to be from a company called Holloways a Flailer, a sort of slow turning drum with leather straps, the carpet was laid face down over a mesh then beaten, I think Ann Summers have pinched the idea.
Barry
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Nigel_W on May 26, 2005, 07:36:36 am

Someone in the US has invented the tool for the job.

www.rugbadger.com

Nigel
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: therapist on May 26, 2005, 10:48:25 am
If you have still to clean the rugs Sherlock, you should speak to Franklins of Sheffield

They've been cleaning rugs for about 100 years and really know what they're talking about

robert m
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on May 26, 2005, 05:40:41 pm
nigel w. that site is really interesting thanks for that, therapist done them, gave them a good beating. and then ms. and then washed them off from a barrel containing rain water. they are wet  so i used hurricane x 2, hot afternoon, and they did not look bad, time will tell, they had been made 120 years ago, and they were coloured in vegatable dye. just an added comment the lady was 94 and looked about70, her father buried lawrence of arabia, funny old world. thanks for all the replys 8) :P :-X :-\ :-* :'( :( >:( ;D :D
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: John_Flynn on May 28, 2005, 08:16:12 am
Why did her father bury Lawrence of Arabia, what had he done to him??
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Barry Pearce on May 30, 2005, 06:31:55 pm
John.
Perhaps lawence did the first clean?
Barry
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: eco freindly. peoples champion ron .sherlock on June 06, 2005, 07:04:56 pm
i would like to say thanks to the person who told me about rain water. it is great ive used it again. first class thanks
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Adrian Makel on June 09, 2005, 03:21:06 pm
never had a problem with a rug,its just a matter of confidence,do all your tests take your time and DON`T PANICK :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Liahona on February 11, 2006, 07:27:20 pm
a hose pipe is fine, you should always flood a rug to clean it anyway, well almost always......
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: BRSL on February 12, 2006, 11:34:37 am
Whats the trick with the rain water please  ??? ???

James
Title: Re: proper persian rugs, how to clean?
Post by: Mark Lurker on February 12, 2006, 12:45:45 pm
James,

The TDS of rainwater is lower than ground water. It is also mildly acidic.