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Title: My first employee
Post by: MNWC on September 24, 2009, 07:37:06 pm
Hi There,

Ive got my very first employee starting next week. He is coming on the round with myself.

I 75% wfp everything apart from some bungalows and shops etc.

What is the best thing to do with the new chap

Me pole upstairs and him trad down ?

let him get to grips with conservatorys trad and ill do the rest of the house with the pole ?

or send him down the road and do another house on his own ??

Cheers

Marcus...
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on September 24, 2009, 07:43:25 pm
send him to carol whitmores house dressed in your elephant trunk thong
 ;D :o ;)
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: daz1977 on September 24, 2009, 08:24:32 pm
i would start him off on trad and when he can do that, then wfp my reason for this is if the wfp goes down you can then both trad,  let him start on bungys and cons  and c how he gets on
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Window Washers on September 24, 2009, 09:00:53 pm
teach him everything, so when you have a holiday he can do it  ;D
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: mci services on September 24, 2009, 09:36:53 pm
my lad got a demo on both methods first morning, then he got to practice on my house then for that week if we were doing wfp he did backs and i did fronts sides and usually got to the back to check he was ok, i showed him what was expected on every job before starting for the first 4 weeks. on trad i put him on bottoms and i do tops and he started with frosted and doors, within weeks he was no problem at all wfp and is just about keeping up trad after a couple of months
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: suds window service on September 24, 2009, 10:02:20 pm
in at the deep end......its not rocket science ;D
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Frankybadboy on September 25, 2009, 06:40:22 am
stu hows the lad doing now. ??? ??? ??? ???

had a look into the scheme you said about,but it seem that they dont do it in my area,so that gone out the window :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on September 25, 2009, 08:30:24 am
I would have thought you would have thought about this before you employed.
I would spend the week training him up on all aspects and dont expect to make anything from him for a week or so.
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: MNWC on September 25, 2009, 01:10:29 pm
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I would have thought you would have thought about this before you employed.

Yeah thats why im asking the question before he starts
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Kwackers on September 25, 2009, 01:16:41 pm
Not sure but...

If you WFP upstairs and he is Trad downstairs then surely it will spot the downstairs windows?
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on September 25, 2009, 01:29:52 pm
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I would have thought you would have thought about this before you employed.

Yeah thats why im asking the question before he starts

Sorry, misread first post, tought you had already employed him.
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Helen on September 25, 2009, 06:18:46 pm
I would show him how to trad on your own downstairs, before you go anywhere. Do it right and then show him from inside, then do it wrong, leaving smears, and show him from the inside, Then let him have a go. Make sure you show him his work from the inside and let him keep doing it until it is right. It shouldn't take long for him to grasp the idea. First custie house,show him how to set up WFP and do the upstairs yourself while he watches. You can talk him through whgat you are doing, how to do it and what happens when you get it wrong. Show him how to pack up WFP. Then trad the bottoms together. Personally I would do it this way for the first couple of days and then after that if he is getting on ok, when you arrive at a custie, let him set up WFP, and start on trad windows that have no windows above them. You wfp. by the time you have done all upstairs, he should then be able to start following you round on the lower level. Hope that makes sense and hope it woks out well for you. Until you are 100% confident in him, do not let him loose on his own :)
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: ftp on September 25, 2009, 06:25:36 pm
Send him away on an NVQ course for a few hours. He should be ready for anything on his return. Free too.
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on September 25, 2009, 06:51:59 pm
Just remember that after a few weeks when he has speeded up you will be getting the jobs done twice as fast, just hope that your customers dont think you are ripping them off, coz you wont be at each job very long.
might be best to explain to the customer that the job will be done quicker coz of the extra help.
believe me some customers are thick and they will feel as if the job is being done to fast and not aswell as normal.
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: EZclean on September 25, 2009, 07:25:10 pm
dont give the impression to the customers that he's never cleaned a window before, tell them he's experienced, or they'llwatch him like a hawk.
i had  a lad with me for a while, and he wouldn't do the living room windows cos he didn't like them watching him  ::)
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Clive McDonald on September 25, 2009, 07:54:07 pm
Hi Marcus,
I'm sure whatever you do will work fine. Treat him with respect, is all i can think of. It's surprising what goes through their heads, and his working for you may come down to if he likes you rather than how much you pay him.

I try to motivate a lad who helps me, i gave him a rise, but the productivity didn't alter much, so now i give him pasties (asda cornish ones) and cans of pop. He smokes rollups which iritates me, and sometimes is slow but i never moan.(i want to, but i don't)

I do backs, which usually means cons and is harder, i also have to drive, write payment cards, and plan work.

When i think about it he's on easy street, great boss, fairly light work load, and plenty to eat.It's now wonder he loves his job- I often tell him he should pay me.
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: bad trippy on September 25, 2009, 08:08:03 pm
pay him to come in on a saturday and train him up all day on your own windows
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Clive McDonald on September 25, 2009, 08:29:14 pm
pay him to come in on a saturday and train him up all day on your own windows

Or get him to call round to talk about the job and have a bag of doughnuts handy. Feed him a couple of doughnuts and let him have a try at your windows. After another doughnut and a cup of tea let him have another go.

Plenty of praise, and keep the doughnuts coming.Get some biscuits in that he likes for next week when he starts. Whenever he mentions money complain about chest pains.
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: ftp on September 25, 2009, 08:38:09 pm
Slumpy, your van must be way over its payload. Cut out the dognuts or make him run behind.  :o
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Clive McDonald on September 25, 2009, 09:12:30 pm
I've just bought a mwb mr (medium roof) transit for my wifes market business and want one of these for my work.Parking wouldn't always be that easy.

I run out of water at 2am every day and it would be nice to carry enough for a days work, plus if two helpers were in the front of the cab i would have more time to write slips and plan work.

Of course the helpers could expect plenty of cans of pop, pasties, and dougnuts. I didn't mention earlier that when i go away i bring fAgs and baccy back and supply these too.It's a wonder i make any money, and worry that some could take advantage of my good nature.

The transits have places to put your clipboard, laptop and satnav and are laid out like a mini office.
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: R W C on September 25, 2009, 09:13:49 pm
I've just bought a mwb mr (medium roof) transit for my wifes market business and want one of these for my work.Parking wouldn't always be that easy.

I run out of water at 2am every day and it would be nice to carry enough for a days work, plus if two helpers were in the front of the cab i would have more time to write slips and plan work.

Of course the helpers could expect plenty of cans of pop, pasties, and dougnuts. I didn't mention earlier that when i go away i bring f*gs and baccy back and supply these too.It's a wonder i make any money, and worry that some could take advantage of my good nature.

The transits have places to put your clipboard, laptop and satnav and are laid out like a mini office.

you work till late  :o
Title: Re: My first employee
Post by: Clive McDonald on September 25, 2009, 09:35:30 pm
sorry pm, we finish at 3.30 and the fill up often takes 20mins/£20.We don't stop for lunch or any breaks(and why would he want too he has the life of old riley), and this watering up is where he can munch a pastie, but a bigger van would put a ton on my bottom line.