Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ryanst1982 on September 19, 2009, 07:46:49 pm
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Just thought id see where people are on this.
Iv recenlty started out and have decided to go traditional method. Just wondered if the balance between trad and WFP has now shifted
Cheers
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Both :P
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;D Both 8)
Darran
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Traditional all the way, being doing so for the last 15 years. Trying to convince my self to go wfp and am setting up a wfp trolley to experiment on my own windows first. Just got my gardiners dual trim brush yesterday. Thanks Alex.
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wfp outside, trad insides only
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95% WFP for me and i`d like it to be 100%.
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WFP Id imagine about 90%
I cant stand trad now. It belongs in the 18th century ;D
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Just got vikan indoor kit to do large office block, will report back later to give update and views on this product.
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Just got vikan indoor kit to do large office block, will report back later to give update and views on this product.
what did you buy with it to apply the water
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More trads than you may suspect imo ;D
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Just got vikan indoor kit to do large office block, will report back later to give update and views on this product.
what did you buy with it to apply the water
Just a spray bottle, if the product works ok then i will purchase sprayer from gardiners for £25. doing first clean in first week of october.
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Wos ist dis double-you-eff-pee?
Perhaps: twin domestic sheep wanting to urinate effing quickly?
I'm all at sixes and sevens...I'll stick with me grubby rags and blade.
Blimey you guys: Yer cleaning glass...how much simpler could a job be?...blimey O'Riley ::)
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Just got vikan indoor kit to do large office block, will report back later to give update and views on this product.
what did you buy with it to apply the water
Just a spray bottle, if the product works ok then i will purchase sprayer from gardiners for £25. doing first clean in first week of october.
thanks windy i just wodered if you had bought the pouch sprayer with it,
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Simon, cleaning standard , easy to reach glass is easy by trad. But trying to clean hard to reach glass, high inaccessable windows by ladders, high internal windows windows in accessable windows, etc is a different matter.
Wait until you have been cleaning along time and you get asked to quote for windows you would normally not be able to reach trad, then you have to search for alternatives to secure the contract.
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we went wfp about 9months ago, main reason was we were uunder the illusion it would be faster
we do a council estate 60 houses, with wfp hoses from van we were getting about 20 houses done in a day max working 9-6
then we went for the backpack on trolly and went up to 27(max) houses a day working 9-6
last month i was offered a cheap set of very light ladders, so now we have 2 sets of ladders, i forgot to charge the backpack for the day this estate came up so we decided I do fronts and other guy do backs all trad, we worked from 9-4 that day with a 30min break and had 42 houses done.
We have decided to go back to trad on all compact work like this.
However we have some big business' and some awful big country houses with surreal amounts of bugs around the windows, and on these jobs wfp is invaluable.
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42 council houses 9-4
do that on my own wfp
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42 council houses 9-4
do that on my own wfp
You don't even know how big the houses are ???
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not a very simple poll is it. at least add a both button
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JS are you able to post some pics of the type of houses you make reference to? also when you say 'we' do you mean 2 people only cleaning 20 houses or each one cleans 20 with wfp?
Cheers
Dave.
ps....off to work now ;D
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42 council houses 9-4
do that on my own wfp
;D
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Simon, cleaning standard , easy to reach glass is easy by trad. But trying to clean hard to reach glass, high inaccessable windows by ladders, high internal windows windows in accessable windows, etc is a different matter.
Wait until you have been cleaning along time and you get asked to quote for windows you would normally not be able to reach trad, then you have to search for alternatives to secure the contract.
You may have to search for alternatives to secure the contract. I just say "thanks but no thanks" ...makes life so much simpler ;)
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last month i was offered a cheap set of very light ladders, so now we have 2 sets of ladders, i forgot to charge the backpack for the day this estate came up so we decided I do fronts and other guy do backs all trad
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what make are these light ladders ? im trad only ,cant see ever having a reason to change
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Sorry, forgot to add a both option.
Am I right in thinking most new starters will go with the trad option as wfp needs a bigger outlay, moneywise, and most (well me anyway) want to get a round started before taking the risk into making such a large investment.
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Sorry, forgot to add a both option.
Am I right in thinking most new starters will go with the trad option as wfp needs a bigger outlay, moneywise, and most (well me anyway) want to get a round started before taking the risk into making such a large investment.
yes, agreed
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i will try and get the name of them ladders for you (the vans not here at the moment) and yes there is 2 of us.
im not knocking wfp, i still use it on all hard to reach windows, and the work is much easier, but thats not the reason we got wfp, we got it to speed up our working day but it didnt do that in all areas.
eg on this estate with ladders from the time we get from van to house 1min, clean house 10min and back to van 1min 12min total
same estate with wfp is more like from van to house 5min clean house 8min and back to van 5min
on the other hand a big country house we do in 25mins wfp or just over an hour trad
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Just got vikan indoor kit to do large office block, will report back later to give update and views on this product.
Please do. I have been considering similar myself and would be interested to hear how someone gets on with it.