Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: wizard on September 19, 2009, 03:57:47 am
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What i need to know is: I have heard prices for gutter cleans at 3 pound a metre etc. What is down for this some. Tell me the full service offered.
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never charge by metre £15 to clean muck out of gutter per side , fascia and gutter clean of pvc £20 , with sofits £30 per side
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there is a guy round here doing 3 bed semis for
wait for it
£20. ::) that includes the cleaning out of the gutters and cleaning all fascias soffits etc
the trouble is he is making a damn good job of it :o
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£50 down my way. :o
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Which kind of spoils Glyns argument of charging the earth just because you've spent thousands on a Guttervac. You can't charge hundreds of pounds with competition like that about can you?
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£100's not really on a standard 3 bed house, but you can charge more than that of a guy with a ladder and bucket.
And before someone thinks of jumping on my back. Think about the other call out charges from other companies and what they use.
1 is a drain jetting company £100 min charge takes 5 mins but they have the professional tools, my home use pressure washer 10 mins cost me £60.
it is perceived value that sells.
Now on guttering, man and ladder charges lets say £25 takes 15 mins using ladder and bucket, down he comes from lader with bucket in hand, knocks door £25 please madam, shes there adding up in her head this guy is making £100 an hour my windows only take 15 and he charges me £7. Her end thought i am getting done here. Not everone is like this but any are.
Gutter vac cleaner charges £50 takes 15 mins unloads equipment that customer sees, shows dvd video proof gutter cleared. knocks door when finished £50 please madam. she pays and feel happy...
Same job, difference equipment, different price.
This is what I have found doing this job both ways.
I do not charge any of the prices above, they are an example. each job is different!
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Aren't customers stupid.
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Aren't customers stupid.
Not at all ;D
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never charge by metre £15 to clean muck out of gutter per side , fascia and gutter clean of pvc £20 , with sofits £30 per side
So a 5 metre side costs the same as a 15 metre side?
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Which kind of spoils Glyns argument of charging the earth just because you've spent thousands on a Guttervac. You can't charge hundreds of pounds with competition like that about can you?
This just highlights the difference what a small business thinks they should charge ( and they wonder why they stay small) against a professionaly run "specialist".
The largest gutter cleaning company in England has a turnover of £20,000,000 per annum - they dont clean a million properties to get this amount!
They know how much scaffolding for a building would cost and charge less.
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Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland
Average council house approx 8m of guttering a side
Local window cleaners = £15 for whole lot.
Local roofing and guttering company = £9 per metre.
and its the roofing company that seems to be flooded with the work!!!!
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Hi Glyn,
Who are the market leaders in commercial gutter cleaning? TGM?
Cheers,
Huw
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I spent over ten thousand on my wfp set up. I don't charge up to 10,000 times more than the guy with his bucket do I?
You are comparing gutter cleaning with a vac against scaffolding and cherry pickers on commercial work
Most on here are comparing a vac against a guy with a ladder and bucket on residential work. Big difference in where the competition is coming from.
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Tam, £15 the lot has to be a desperate man in any area.
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You are comparing gutter cleaning with a vac against scaffolding and cherry pickers on commercial work
Most on here are comparing a vac against a guy with a ladder and bucket on residential work. Big difference in where the competition is coming from.
Nothing stops any one with the right equipment and Health & Safety documentation from approaching any size commercial organisation and providing a quotation.
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You are comparing gutter cleaning with a vac against scaffolding and cherry pickers on commercial work
Most on here are comparing a vac against a guy with a ladder and bucket on residential work. Big difference in where the competition is coming from.
Nothing stops any one with the right equipment and Health & Safety documentation from approaching any size commercial organisation and providing a quotation.
that is so true. ;D
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Very true. But the point was about pricing up gutter cleaning which most I would imagine took to be residential work.
Commercial work is a different ball game because of the health and safety isues like you said Glyn and the alternative methods of emptying gutters. I have no argument with that.
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in my humble opinion gutters and windows are different products and so command different prices. Whilst you will always get someone cheaper than any price quoted i for one would look VPM rather than simple price.
For example I buy Hienz Beans at 48p but could get asda own brand for 21p you pays your money you takes your choice. I truely believe that if you look and do the business you will do the business
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£50 down my way. :o
£50 for whole house or a side??
Id charge from 15 -30 a side depends who big it is and how soiled, usually my custies get it done cheap when its raining or similar and specific gutter jobs are around 25 a side
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£50 the lot - empty, clean soffits and fascias the whole shabang.
I know these prices have been quoted it's one street over from me too. Customer chose me through recommendation and he didn't like doorknockers. I did it for £65 which is still too cheap in my opinion but most customers around me aren't stupid and there's plenty of cheap competition about at the moment. Some of the dearest/fastest are the Gypsies who live on a site just outside of town.
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£50 the lot - empty, clean soffits and fascias the whole shabang.
I know these prices have been quoted it's one street over from me too. Customer chose me through recommendation and he didn't like doorknockers. I did it for £65 which is still too cheap in my opinion but most customers around me aren't stupid and there's plenty of cheap competition about at the moment. Some of the dearest/fastest are the Gypsies who live on a site just outside of town.
:o
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Which leads me to a question ;)
How much higher can the guy with the top of the range Ionics type waterfed van system costing £30,000, embroidered polo shirt and full uniform charge for window cleaning over the guy with his Mondeo and bucket?
Answer: not a lot.
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Which leads me to a question ;)
How much higher can the guy with the top of the range Ionics type waterfed van system costing £30,000, embroidered polo shirt and full uniform charge for window cleaning over the guy with his Mondeo and bucket?
Answer: not a lot.
over 9 meters for a start ;)
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Thanks guys for your input.I will be happy to hear from more, so keep it coming.
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we typically charge more for gutter cleans as it's a crappy job by hand , cleaning them out that is , also while i'm cleaning guter out i visually check over roof i tell custy if i have spotted any problems , other week told custy ridge tiles did'nt look very secure and best get builder out incase they end up on his car whch would be afar bigger bill than £15
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i did four last week all by hand then clean them and the and fascia etc by hand i charge any where from £60 to £120 depending on the size off the house ,got another two to do next week
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nice job mate do you se tfr , i'm abit nervey about pricing to high
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no i use a upvc spray about five pound a bottle lasts me two or three jobs when i get back from football ill get it name for you. as for pricing i charge more for white guttering than for black as the end results stand out more i try to get a least a days wage , all my customer have been very very pleased with the end results
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i use tfr got a 25ltr container of ebay £15.00 5-1 ratio mix thanks anyway far cheaper than pvc cleaner got some of that from ags ago somewhere in shed
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Grwindows, how did you reach above the conservatory?
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Grwindows, how did you reach above the conservatory?
was wondering the same!
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Personally I never offer just to do a "clean out",.. its the whole job or nothing. With the time involved in travelling to the job setting up & packing away all the gear etc it simply isn't worth doing half a job.
My average charge for a 3 bed semi is €135 and my customers are happy to pay it.
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I think some of the prices that are being stated that you can earn maybe earnt now but i really cant see it staying this way, I think councils and management companys will twig onto this soon realising it will be cheaper to buy the system for a few thousand and employe there own in house cleaner to do it and save themselves a absolute bomb in the process, so take advantage now of the 100s of pounds an hour some state to get. Competition will be huge soon so if someone is happy to earn a really good wage cleaning them compared to someone who expects to earn in a day what most people earn in 2 weeks then fare play to them, I hate doing gutters, fascias and soffits so if i dont pass them on then i will price well for them but I would never rip someone off by charging 100s for a hours work.
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i made a diy pole with a changeable ends for a scoop to do the insides and a brush and also can fit a flat plate on to which a cloth goes onto to do the gutters and fascias as they all have flat sides.And it adjust to go over conservators etc
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sHOW US SOME PICS OF YOUR TOOLS YOU HAVE MADE THEY ARE VERY EFFECTIVE.WELL DONE
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Which leads me to a question ;)
How much higher can the guy with the top of the range Ionics type waterfed van system costing £30,000, embroidered polo shirt and full uniform charge for window cleaning over the guy with his Mondeo and bucket?
Answer: not a lot.
True, but he can do a whole lot more windows in a day, especially with that long pole, and win lots more contracts that mean a decent growth and very nice income, that's probably what someone with a £30k set up and proper business branding is aiming to do. All depends on what type of business you want and are happy with. Some people are happy with their car and working as a sole trader - good luck to them, nothing wrong with that, money doesn't buy happyness.
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wizard ill take some pic tomorrow and put them on very easy to make and cheap to but they do a good job
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UNGER TRAD POLE with a screw in gutter scoop on the end then swap and put a fixi clamp with a sponge/cloth for outside soffits and gutters.get a swivel squeegy and u can clean the window above the conny roof while ur there ;)simple.i got all my gear from the windowclean centre.save messin about makin a homemade thing. ;D
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cant believe some of u guys.just buy the right equipment for the job its all on the internet.itll pay for itself many times over than some cheap DIY thing.if u turned up at my flat with a cheap diy thing and try and charge me 120quid i would think u were takin the p.cheapskates ;D
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in my humble opinion gutters and windows are different products and so command different prices. Whilst you will always get someone cheaper than any price quoted i for one would look VPM rather than simple price.
For example I buy Hienz Beans at 48p but could get asda own brand for 21p you pays your money you takes your choice. I truely believe that if you look and do the business you will do the business
Try Aldi Corale beans.. Lovely. Only about 20p per can...