Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: benny d on September 16, 2009, 12:54:30 pm
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We have been using a Steam Way 9100 truck mount for 5 years ...off and on . Due to the fact it has been back to Alltec at least 30 times . Please dont tell us what do you expect ! Or , Thats a record ! Even Alltec have us booked in a permanent basis every fortnight ! Plus we go to Pirtec the hose people on a regular basis to replace blown hoses . We actually spent about £1200-00 last jan. having it almost rebuilt !! to no avail .
There is more to our saga than what is here I promise y,all .
We have put this info . in to clarify our position . Reliabilty !!! Is what we need .
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Of course there is always the case of having just a bad machine whatever make it is. I was down at Alltec last week and a guy I know from the Fast Track days was there. He is considering a Blueline 'T' Wave as he is paying too much tax, and want to offset some. His dilemma is that he has an old Steamway 910 like yours, only his has only given and continues to give good service even with close to 6,000 hours on the clock.
I have run TM for over 6 years now, my first a Steamway Sidekick, I have never had a solution hose go on me, even though I frequently abuse them.
Well maintained TMs, well looked after and serviced when due shouldnt give undue problems unless something is seriously wrong with it in the first place.
Dave.
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Hydramaster Boxer 421, had mine now for three years next month. Very reliable, only time I take it to Hydramaster is for servicing or when the beer is free
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same as gerry, boxxer 421 only 16 months old from new.
had one problem, parts sent next day, step by step over the phone help to fit part, jobs a gooden. no problems since apart from scale up, my fault but again, phone help sorted it. can't fault hydramaster for enthusiasm, after sales care, quality truckmounts and friendly around the clock advice.
speak to john gotts personally, tell him derek west gave you the nod ;)
derek
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ps... if you email me your number i'll get him to ring you in person. derek@affordablecleaners.co.uk
derek
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Derek
You crack me up sometimes. ;D
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ditto mike, in fact i'm starting to find you fkin hilarious.
derek
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:-*
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I'd love a truck mount but i've only been going 9 years! ;D
Every time I mention it to my customers they tell me to save my money, they think I do a good enough job without one. Got to admit though I am starting to feel a bit of a twit earning a living with somthing that looks like a wheelie bin! :-[
In 9 years of being in this trade I have never seen a truck mount running, let alone have a go with one.
The Chemspec range looks good to me.
Pete
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pete
don't look at it as a benefit to your customers, look at it as a benefit to you. faster and easier, home in time for loose women instead of noel edmonds. ;D
derek
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ditto what derek says, tm's do a better job in MY opinion but the main benefactor is you, jobs are easier and quicker so as long as you are a busy guy you can fit more work in your day,
colin ;)
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True Derek,
I was doing a massive building last week and had to fill over 40 25ltr barrels of water at home in my bath! Thats a ton of water I had filled into 25 ltr barrels!! :o
I then had to lift all the barrels into the van and drive to the job. Arrive and unload them all, lift the machine to the third floor in order to get my 75ft of hose to reach the 5th floor. Then had to run down to ground floor to haul up the barrels of water not to mention all the bloody emptying.
All the time I was wondering if a truck mount would be easier. :)
Pete
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I think you know the answer to that Peter!
Shaun
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Pete, If you were charging by the hour you'd have been on a right earner....
I dream of the day I don't have to fanny about with customers crappy taps and tepid water.... I'd like a TM by my 5th year...(3 and a half to go!) Don't get me wrong, the porty I have at the moment is outstanding and I hope I won't be changing it! But I could see many benefits of having a TM.... And HM is only 20 minutes away from my house.... Bargain!
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look at it this way, by using a truckmount be it electric or petrol powered its like having an extra pair of hands on every job.
So lets say it costs £100 per week to buy and run for arguments sake, where can you get a helper for that sort of money who is ready any time of the day when you want to clean a carpet apart from still in Poland!
How many Taxi drivers get their client first before they spend £30,000 on a cab?
Did I not mention I sell Truckmounts :-\
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So what is the problem with the machine?
Len
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By the sound of it Len its on the pay roll at Altec :'(
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If you KNOW in your heart of hearts that you are going to make it in the business, then getting a truckmount is a pretty straightforward proposition, even with relatively little capital. When you are uncertain about the future and your capabilities it's a much tougher decision.
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The only trouble is that a taxi driver can spend £30 000 and go out on a night and virtually that he can get work from day one where as us cc need to build up our customers.
Shaun
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Mike anyone who has been cleaning carpets for 3years + know what they want to do. And it ain't got get an office job!
With 3 yrs under your belt you know what the future holds, it all about fine tuning your craft and working smarter not harder.
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We ain't getting any younger :'(
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Only if you sit on your arse at home Shaun waiting for the phone to ring!
Same for a taxi driver if he relied on an ad in yellow pages or the local news paper he too would have to build his so call client base before he started to make money.
What's wrong with everyone did'nt ya dad tell you work will not come knocking on your door!
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But taxis have taxi ranks and you buy the radio so the work comes to you from other places immediately, the analogy is floored.
Long term a taxi drive may earn the same in 10 years time as he does now where as we start from nothing and grow (hopefully) each year to surpass the income of a taxi driver but in 10 years you may have gone through 2 TM's and vans.
Shaun
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god i must be p1ssed, ive joined a taxi forum
derek
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Said by a man with a half empty glass :-[
Ask yourself this question Shaun?
How many successful companies rely solely on Y/P and local newspapers to make their fortunes.
I still say your arse features high in the frame and geting of it works better when marketing.
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Not sure what you mean?
Shaun
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There I thought you were the marketing guru Shaun
SELLING TELLING ;D
Not writing prity adds in the hope folks may need you.
Its all about getting out there and finding these dirty carpets and showing people what you can do.
And with a high powered all singing all dancing truck mount the results are much quicker than running to a hot tap and filling ya bucket.
Shaun if you can remember many years ago I said buckets are only use to carry your money to the bank not for cleaning carpets.
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Tm's are only part of the marketing conunderum, people are the key marketing items there are many porti owners who can sell better than Tm owners.
I do believe you have to get out there but if you have the gift you can sell a good clean with many machines.
Shaun
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Proactivity - Definition by Mr Ingram. A posh word for getting off your arse and creating business. 8)
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Thank you Mike but I'm chatting with me old mate Sheffield Shaun and we don't use them sort of words. We are frum up north!
Now then where wos I
Oh yes your right Shaun regarding the sales approach but what I was trying to get accross was how much easier it is to do a demo with a petrol opperated T/M than it is with a porty.
And the speed of clean as opposed to the time it takes to set up a porty.
I'm not saying the T/M cleaner is better at his job than a porty guy, trust me I've seen some real classic acts in my time, all I'm saying is the results of a demo far quicker from start to finish.
Its all about showing people what you can do rarther than telling them
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I agree with the USP but I think you change the way you sell to the items you have around you.
Shaun
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Very true but there are a lot of sceptics out there and they need reassuring that what we say we can deliver.
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I agree perhaps I'm giving the wrong impression but I wouldn't like to sell a TM or anything else for that matter based on it sells carpet cleaning, the power of 'the gob' is the only way of closing the sale the rest is just sizzle.
Shaun
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what a thread !!
wow 2 power houses going at it over selling
we may all learn some thing new here
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This is going off topic but whilst we are this far down the road Shaun,
Lets say your asked to do a demo in a pub for instance, now what machine would you feel most comfortable using to show the client your skills?
A portable or a truckmount?