Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: rolo123 on September 14, 2009, 11:10:42 am
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Hi would just like to warn all about canvassing companies,and warn all not to use cleaner marketing.I asked cleaner marketing some 3 months ago to canvass £2,000 of work,which they said they had done,they gave me a list of new custmors,addresses,and prices,and details of cleans,which cost me £3400,when i started the work,the new customers,told me we already have a window cleaner,and the prices were far to high,the new cleans were sold to me as a sales pitch,and people were told that i would give free cleans,cut a long story short i ended up with £100 worth of work,i have been done,the mobile number that nathan is on is turned off,and the invoice address does not exist,i have left voice mails,but no one at cleanermarketing has replyed,PLEASE DO NOT USE CLEANER MARKETING,or if anyone knows how to contact cleaner marketing please do let me know,or nathan can give me a call.
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Do they have a web address?
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round and round we go again!
these damn rouge canvassing muppet's need a kicking
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yes its www. cleanermarketing.com
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round and round we go again!
these damn rouge canvassing muppet's need a kicking
Damn right stevie boy! Bunch of dishonest tossers all of them!
Avoid canvassing companies, they look at window cleaners as easy money! f***ing leeches.
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it's your own fault
a fool and his money are easily parted ::)
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it's your own fault
a fool and his money are easily parted ::)
thats a bit harsh, anyone who says they have never been ripped of is either nieve or a liar,he has come on here warning us of a rogue company so we dont make the mistake he has and you call him a fool i think its your comment that is foolish.
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you think its harsh....
he sets on a canvassing firm, they canvass '£2k' of work for the price of £3k+
they hand over the customers, he hands over the money.
doesn't take much to think i'll hang on to the cash thankyou very much till i've done 1 clean just to make sure.
i hope he gets his money back though.
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Yes you are so right,i just trust to many people.
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somebody must no were they are based and how to get hold of them
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yes its www. cleanermarketing.com
Wrong web address.
Is it the same company advertised here? With some guy called Adam.
http://www.window-tools.com/windows/index.php?topic=2707.0
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Yes this is the same company,and the same mobile number,just a different name.
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Don't know if this is any good. It is all I could find on address. Better to speaki with the police.
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sorry to hear that steve
i thought you had loads of work .....thats why you moved back....
Marcus...
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This guy calls himself Nathan, same ID though
http://www.window-tools.com/windows/index.php/topic,3697.0.html
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Thank you for your help,will try this one.
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I have been on the forums for a long time! and most if not all canvessing company have a bad name!!
However a local window cleaner use a local canvessing company and was happy! so I used them! I wish I hadnt!!!
I paid up front and they got me the work but many said we only asked for a price that was all!!
They still owe me 1k and he keeps on giving stores that his family are ill!!
I WILL NEVER USE A CANVESS COMPANY AGAIN >:( >:( >:(
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I have been on the forums for a long time! and most if not all canvessing company have a bad name!!
However a local window cleaner use a local canvessing company and was happy! so I used them! I wish I hadnt!!!
I paid up front and they got me the work but many said we only asked for a price that was all!!
They still owe me 1k and he keeps on giving stores that his family are ill!!
I WILL NEVER USE A CANVESS COMPANY AGAIN >:( >:( >:(
why the hell would you pay up front? i have my own canvasser and i wouldn't even trust him with being paid upfront ;D
it is the usual this story. it seems to always end in disaponitment for the window cleaner.
just a quick note this company isn't the same nathan from a previous canvassing company was it? he sounded like a tool as well ::)
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I'm sorry to hear whats happened to you Rolo.
The best way of building a good quality round is to go out and canvass for yourself... You then meet the customer and start building a relationship as soon as you knock on their door.
Andy
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I agree, but its finding bleedin' time to do it when i have windys to clean,. lol ;D
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Yes this is it,i work in the day,collect in the evening,dont seem to have a lot of time to go out and find work.
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Don't know if this is any good. It is all I could find on address. Better to speaki with the police.
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Owner Cleaner-marketing.com
Email @googlemail.com
Phone Numbers 0208 123 1293
Address Geranium House, Denmead
Hampshire, PO7, UK
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IP: 82.18.88.214
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Email: cleanermarketing@gmail.com
Website: http://cleaner-marketing.com/
Location: Hampshire
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Yes this is it,i work in the day,collect in the evening,dont seem to have a lot of time to go out and find work.
Don't go collecting! Get the customers to send you the money.
Canvass for a couple of hours on a Saturday or Sunday?
Andy
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Yeah this is the reason I would never use a canvasser,unless I knew them personally.Gutted for you Rolo,£3400 is a lot of wedge to lose.I bought a round recently against my better judgement and was bricking it that I would be stitched up despite being ultra cautious checking random customers etc.I'm not a violent man in the slightest but a damn good kicking is the order of the day if you can find this tosspot.Not going to get your money back but will give you a little satisfaction.
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Really feel for you mate. Did a domain name search to see if they left any digital footprints. Might be worth speaking to the technical department (number below)
Good Luck
Neil
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Hi
You should contact trading standards in your area and go to a solicitor for legal advise
yes there is costs in this but the solicitor will claim this from the third parties if you win
Bit more cost to this but in my opinon will be worth while
I am sorry what as happened to you
Bryan
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Yes this is it,i work in the day,collect in the evening,dont seem to have a lot of time to go out and find work.
Don't go collecting! Get the customers to send you the money.
Canvass for a couple of hours on a Saturday or Sunday?
Andy
Yep! Im picking up about £100 a sunday for 1-2 hours knocking :)
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some people just don't like knocking though. Its not for everyone and can be soul destroying if you don't do well. i'm not a great fan of it, i do it if need be
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some people just don't like knocking though. Its not for everyone and can be soul destroying if you don't do well. i'm not a great fan of it, i do it if need be
safe to say you haven't knocked a door in a while then! ;D
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don't need to mate but i've done my fair share trust me! ;)
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rolo ask a friend localy to call to get some new cavassing done
the slime will come out under his stone and bam you have him do not misuse your chance as it will be the only one enjoy
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Terrible news, I hope you get a good result in the end.
I've been enjoying canvassing for my business, more than the actual work I think, and was seriously thinking of setting up a canvassing service, but asking for payment after all the first cleans are done to avoid the problems that we keep reading about when people pay upfront. Sounds like in your case though, you where ripped off plain and simple. >:(
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i work in the day,collect in the evening,dont seem to have a lot of time to go out and find work.
This beggers the question, if you are that busy why do you need to pay someone to get you more work?
I would never trust someone to go out canvassing, in some blind hope, they see a property in the same way that I do.
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Thank you all for all your help,this is a great web site.
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Blimey so sorry to hear that mate, glad of the warning i was thinking about useing them as they are fairly local. I'm going to do my own canvassing from now on.
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i work in the day,collect in the evening,dont seem to have a lot of time to go out and find work.
This beggers the question, if you are that busy why do you need to pay someone to get you more work?
I would never trust someone to go out canvassing, in some blind hope, they see a property in the same way that I do.
Hi neil did you get my email?
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There is a window cleaning company in or around Maidenhead that have a good reputation.
Does anyone remember their name or have their number please?
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I have always been wary of the idea of a canvassing company because a list of names does not equal a round. Many people say yes on the doorstep when they are not really serious. The percentage of drop outs or time wasters is going to be high.
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He has a London phone number and a Hampshire address. Anyway,i clean some flats in Denmead so if you can get the exact address ( i know there is a Geranium Gardens) i'll go and give it a knock for you.
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Cheers luther i have a address cleaner marketing,anmore house,denmead,waterlooville,hants,po7 6np
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Also have Geranium house,denmead,hampshire,p07
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I know an Anmore House,in Soake Rd which is off Anmore Rd so i'll give them a knock and the postcode you gave me for Geranium House is 100 yds away,so i'll knock that too. You better tell me your name Rolo as when i visit i can be accurate with details etc. Its a tiny little village and quite upmarket and one of those places where everyone knows each other so it shouldn't be a problem sourcing the tool.
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Any luck with them addresses?
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Hi luther thanks for looking into this for me,my email is mcqueenclean@hotmail.com can you email me and i will email you details
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Hi Marcus,no i moved back to a new area,so need to start a fresh,hope you are well?
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Your always better off canvassing yourself.
Think about it. Why don't you pay yourself the £3000 to do it, give yourself £500 a week working 8 hours a day for 6 weeks and you will without doubt build yourself a good priced round up to your own standard and beyond!
Its crazy to pay someone to get you work, if you cant face doing it your self when your starting out then you should really look into a different career choice. Window cleaning is all about self motivation, without it you'll never amount to much.
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Your always better off canvassing yourself.
Think about it. Why don't you pay yourself the £3000 to do it, give yourself £500 a week working 8 hours a day for 6 weeks and you will without doubt build yourself a good priced round up to your own standard and beyond!
Its crazy to pay someone to get you work, if you cant face doing it your self when your starting out then you should really look into a different career choice. Window cleaning is all about self motivation, without it you'll never amount to much.
good info although after you get full and still want to bring in better and drop the chaff and can see the advantage of a canvasser as you dont want too be busy 24/7 need a life too
but when starting out i think dropping leaflets / knocking doors as much as you can yourself is the best way or use family and close friends but strangers it seems whether companies etc seem to just rip people off
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Was their anymore news on this company, who stole his money?
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Hi all thanks for all your help,have not had any luck with this,have learnt a lesson on trusting people,have gone out and picked up a lot of work on my own.I wont let this scum get me down,and i will come out stronger and better.
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sorry to here that mate , one day that rogue will get his come-uppance / glad to hear your out on the streets tho ;D
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Hi all thanks for all your help,have not had any luck with this,have learnt a lesson on trusting people,have gone out and picked up a lot of work on my own.I wont let this scum get me down,and i will come out stronger and better.
Rolo mate search through my posts and look at any that are in threads about cleaner marketing or there old name window cleaning rounds or WCR LTD. Somewhere in there IIRC is the true contact address for the for these guys. Also they advertise on ebay so you could contact Ebay and warn them of their practices - that could throw a spanner in the works for them as it is one of their main advertising methods.
I must say I did have a bit of an experience with them. They advertised a commercial round for sale in my area so I contacted them about it. Now at the time there was a few people on here that had posted about problems with them and they had responded on CIU blaming all this on one person who had left the company (otherwise I would of never contacted them). Therefore I was most surprised when I was emailed by the exact person who no longer worked for them. The best bit was that it transpired that the round didn't actually exist - it was an advertising ploy!
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Why not get a friend to have them out to do some canvassing for them and go say hello when he turns up?
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ive heard alot about this company ripping people off,ever thought of going to watchdog and report him/the company for misleading you?Canvess companys are a good thing for us,but you should never hand any money over till the work is complete or you have been round every single customer and confirmed all the details with them