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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 08:56:19 pm

Title: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 08:56:19 pm
Just wondering if any of you have a large amount of shops windows and how often and how much do you charge.

Was also thinking about the likes of burger kings and subway and the shopping centre
I got some shops today but they are just an average window and door. Ive charged them inside and out at £3 every week but was thinking about getting more
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: TonyD on September 09, 2009, 09:08:35 pm
I thought you'd now sold your rounds and concentrating on the construction business ?
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: daz1977 on September 09, 2009, 09:19:23 pm
how do you get all these custy,  how do u advertise as i could do with some more work
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: windymiller on September 09, 2009, 09:19:56 pm
yeah it seems his construction business is constructing window cleaning rounds. ;D

Charging £3 for in and out is way to cheap, i wouldnt even do the outsides for £3.
The shops i do which are similar to yours start at £5  for outside or £10 for in and out and are weekly.

If they want a regular quality service they will pay, Dont sell yourself short!!
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 09:33:15 pm
I want to sell the rounds but i wouldnt mind doing some shops so i can go working earlier then if there are any meetings etc i can plan the day better and i can cut back on employment . All i need to do now is set the H&S ploicy with the chamber of commerce - we are currently pending the Iso standard certificate then we are ready to tender for work

Got Lanzarote in 3 weeks so the once i get back we are going to be tendering for jobs -
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ronnie paton on September 09, 2009, 09:36:27 pm
whats the construction company called??
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 09:36:35 pm
ideally il be looking for work between 6:30 till 11/12pm
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: R W C on September 09, 2009, 09:36:57 pm
roll on 3 weeks
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 09:38:04 pm
Rockware Construction Ltd
Got the company registration documents this morning
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 09:38:45 pm
roll on 3 weeks
yh can twait get a break from you either ;D
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ronnie paton on September 09, 2009, 09:47:13 pm
so is the ISO quite quick to do?
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 09:54:18 pm
UKICM is doing ours. It costs £2300+vat
You get an inspection to see your current procedures then they help you to get to the standard required. The fee is all you pay because if you fail to get the certificate they have failed you so all retests are then free.
It can take from 5 weeks to 3 months to get qualified but you can apply for jobs as long as you state in the PQQ the status is pending - We are now considerate contractor certified also but the time for the ISO depends on what procedures you currently have

The 2 we need are ISO 9001 and ISO 14001 which is for quality management procedures and environmental waste but the inspector is only coming to visit us in 7 weeks when im back off hols
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ronnie paton on September 09, 2009, 09:57:34 pm
so do you not need a company and a company base previuos job and experience to work off?

some one i spoke to who done it said they visit your workplace and office ect lots of stuff involved
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:03:18 pm
They know my position and experience etc and they reckon it wont be a problem but if they do need previous experience my business partner has worked for allen build and now vinci construction. Hes also why the banks said they would back us - They would never lend to me alone
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: Gaby P. on September 09, 2009, 10:05:23 pm
Pratinum, you don't need ISO 9001, you need a check on reality
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:06:50 pm
Well you only learn from mistakes so if i dont get accredited il blame my business partner
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ronnie paton on September 09, 2009, 10:08:45 pm
i just thought the ISO was like the highest standard, i though was given to the company and not the person which would mean the would need previuos work done by rockware ltd???

it seems easier than i thought though it has always put me off about the time involved ect but i may look into it further.

so are you subbing out all the work or getting employees and dealing with it in house?
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:15:10 pm
Its a requirement on the PQQ for the clients to show your have the correct procedures to handle the project Its accredited to the company but from what i know previous experience isnt required all we have to do is make up a job ie building a porche then show the procedures carried out from chasing the contract to selecting the tenders and checking they are adequate for the job then completing the job while reducing the carbon emissions etc the build and say thats what we do - if they need changing we are advised and monitored then inspected again if we meet the requirements we are accredited

Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:16:34 pm
We are having in house joiners and construction managers/site managers etc then subbing out the rest of the work - If your interested il be on here for the builders cleans
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ronnie paton on September 09, 2009, 10:19:36 pm
yes why not, i was also thinking bout electricians and painters ectect
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:22:11 pm
If youve got a subcontracting business thats Iso accredited you can tender for the jobs
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ftp on September 09, 2009, 10:22:11 pm
...... and your role in the company is what?
Director, managing director, company director?
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:23:57 pm
Managing director with my business partner
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:28:03 pm
yes why not, i was also thinking bout electricians and painters ectect
UKICM check out the website and phone them. they will give you the details
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ronnie paton on September 09, 2009, 10:37:35 pm
just been looking at website you dont have to use ISO accredited companies do you?
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:40:51 pm
on the PQQs we are asked if we use iso accredited companies if we tick no we reduce the chances of being success but increase the likelyhood of problems on the job.its not a requirement but its more professional
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ronnie paton on September 09, 2009, 10:43:13 pm
so how did you go about letting them visit you at your business premisis??

and how did you go about showing processes for a company that doesnt yet exsist??

was wondering how it would look at visiting my home which is my business premisis would look at bit un proffesional i think?
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:47:04 pm
they said all the requirements are that you meet the standard. You need a job to show what procedures you have. You can become accredited off one job which we will make up actually ukicm advised us to manufacture a job then they get you upto the stadard required to get the certificate

Make the job up the show what procedures you think you would have used then they work with you at no extra costs
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: ronnie paton on September 09, 2009, 10:49:59 pm
but thays seems fake considering what it stands for no dis respect but they are basically saying any one can get it
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:55:14 pm
thats how they operate and as long as they help us gain the certificate and operate professionally and they audit us every year then ive got no problem - you need to show procedures for them to improve upon so thats how i see it.
There job really is to get you to the standard so if your completly rubbish they will get you to that standard so effectively unless we get to that standard we cant operate on the contracts we are looking at.

You can look at it as a training course to get you to the highest professional standard
Title: Re: Shops and Business
Post by: PCNW on September 09, 2009, 10:58:36 pm
If we dont reach the standard we wont get the certificate
If anyone tries to get it if they arent good enough same applies