Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: alishalucy on September 06, 2009, 09:24:38 am
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hi check us out on ebay if you type in window rounds for sale and our website www.canvassingkings.com, me and my partner have been window cleaning for about 10 years but also help build consistant, quality window rounds please get in touch to see if we can help you increase your income from the next week. kind regards and any question it would be great to have a discussion on this?ryan and mark
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cannot get to your site with ur link
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hi sorry not sure if its a viable link i just typed it in sorry maybe put in in youe search bar on explorer ryan
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Is it something to do with tents or camping? How much did you pay for your website?
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haha no afraid we dont sell canvas either sorry ive modified link my fault ryan
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http://www.canvassingkings.com/
;) ;) ;)
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thankyou ;D
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Love the testimonial on the website:
"Mr Jones - Basingstoke.
Yeah yeah, the guy was great. Blah blah blah."
:)
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cracking sister site too.
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yeah we never really use website but i thought id stick it on just for a point of reference really i was update asap though doesnt look great i agree!! thanks
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i appreciate all the comments but i would rather talk about the services we can provide than the flaws on my website, if anyone is interested please contact us as we are a honest company and would like the chance to help anyone build thier future regards ryan
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cracking sister site too.
Yup - but note the email address? E-mail: sirantonycartwright@ :o ::)
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I may be missing the point here, but in my case someone who is starting out why would I want to pay up to 4x the value of my round getting someone to knock doors on my behalf. I am a confident guy, it is my business and they are my customers so I will go get them myself. That way I get a feel for the customer, the property, the area and most importent the customer gets to meet me and we can build a relationship from the start.
Just my opinion ;D
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its never been X4 generally its x2 and i myself am i window cleaner and use canvassers on my round and although your right in what you say people use us because its a small price to pay to generate serious amounts of annual income what for they pay us, either people are too busy and require us to canvass large amounts for thier team to clean or smaller sole traders just to improve the quality of thier round so maybe they send us to businesses or industrial estates etc, some people dont like canvassing and if your really want to reach out and cement a decent future in window cleaning and secure income the fastest way and the best way to reinvest is back into your company by canvassing your surrounding houses or area. regards ryan
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its never been X4 generally its x2 and i myself am i window cleaner and use canvassers on my round and although your right in what you say people use us because its a small price to pay to generate serious amounts of annual income what for they pay us, either people are too busy and require us to canvass large amounts for thier team to clean or smaller sole traders just to improve the quality of thier round so maybe they send us to businesses or industrial estates etc, some people dont like canvassing and if your really want to reach out and cement a decent future in window cleaning and secure income the fastest way and the best way to reinvest is back into your company by canvassing your surrounding houses or area. regards ryan
Good luck mate, just make sure you do a better job then a lot of the canvassing companys that are out there, I think being a window cleaner yourself will be a benefit, I can see where your coming from with you prices as you could spend hours only getting £7 jobs, why do you chose to build other peoples businesses and not spend the time on your own and canvass work, what is your minimum amount to canvass.
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we dont have a minimum, our round is really big enough we both have families and responsibilties but really enjoy canvassing and the buzz we dont make stupid amounts and we like to canvass quality work as its what we'd want ourselves in chester i cant stress enough how different we are to every other company thanks for leaving a comment though. ryan
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and sorry to go on but wouldnt it be refreshing for a canassing company to come get u work and leave with no strings no problems we had a large wel know company we might take a while longer but we dont come stinkin of booze and complaining the territory's no good. we just want to be the best out there and make cast iron name for ourselves
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I'm only playing Devils advocat, I know there are people out there who do have a need for round builders and who knows I may have a need for one in time myself.
Good luck 8)
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Hang on, you're a window cleaner who canvases rounds for other window cleaners, yet you use other canvasing companies to canvas "your" round. Something doesn't sound right to me. ::)
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no we used one before we started canvassing for others it made us think as we had such a bad experience must of been two years ago sorry should of said nothing fishy im afraid even though u may want there to be sorry
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just to put people at ease me and mark have a referals list if anyone wants to check our work more than welcome
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I aint looking for fish, they were your words not mine. ;)
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Another round builder who will get critisised on reviews. No one is happy unless they get the work themselves. They know the prices-the area(rough or not)-they meet the customers-If you not happy with any of these when canvassing yourself you turn your back on it - With round builders your out of pocket before you asses the work they provide. I prefare getting work myself......
When i had my previous work i DID consider with the workload training in house canvassers to go to areas i knew and have the knowledge of what the business needed to expand. As for hiring outside help without the same vision for my business they werent getting a chance
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sorry but this thread sounds like another window cleaner who hasnt made it or cant hack it to me. No offence, I have been there and done it myself. You should use your loaf if your a window cleaner already why on earth would you wish to build up for other people???surely if you had a business sence on you, you would use your canvassers to build your own empire up instead of earning a piddly x2 for gaining work for others for which you would have to replace all the bad work and cancalations. I just dont see the logic in you canvassing for other people if you already are a window cleaner.
The only reason im giving you my view is that i tried it. I sold off all my work to start canvassing thinking it would be so much better than shineing myself, 6months later i realised what a plum i was struggling to earn enough money to live on and always oweing out money or replaceing dropout customers for other wc's. Anyway im now back cleaning with a great round and NEVER wish to sell up again or to canvass for OTHER SHINERS.
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difference is unlike you with a business brain we stil have our round hence no risk unlucky friend
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I went full in mate. What was the point in doing it otherwise???How will you get all your work done on time when you will always be on the go canvassing????not hard to work out unless you have a rubbish tiny round which i doubt as you have canvassers and you dont seem to employ if you want to canvass for others??.
Anyway What I was getting at is why build up for others traveling all over the place and having so many probs for a short x2 value when you could use your guys working in areas that you choose, all as local as you want and build up rounds and franchise them off or even employ. franchises or employed you would be on x 12 yearly before expences for your efforts. If you have enough canvassers then you could realy make it big for yourself.
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What I was getting at is why build up for others traveling all over the place and having so many probs for a short x2 value when you could use your guys working in areas that you choose, all as local as you want and build up rounds and franchise them off or even employ. franchises or employed you would be on x 12 yearly before expences for your efforts. If you have enough canvassers then you could realy make it big for yourself.
Good point - Why canvass £1000pcm of work for £2000 when in 12 months it could earn you £12000
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come on do you really think i do one job a year??maths lesson needed if you want to have an adult conversation please do the maths if i just do one job at a 1000pcm thats 24,000 pa just for 12jobs good point
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come on do you really think i do one job a year??maths lesson needed if you want to have an adult conversation please do the maths if i just do one job at a 1000pcm thats 24,000 pa just for 12jobs good point
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm Work it out mate read it again. £1000 x2 is £2000 which is good as a quick fix. if you owned that work it would be £12000 yearly. if you had £100000 a month of work then £1200000 a year. I know how id rather do things.
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maths lesson needed
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maths lesson needed
lol.
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please contact us as we are a honest company and would like the chance to help anyone build thier future regards ryan
sorry but all companys say this to get work iv tryed 4 and iv had one good company out of it
id leave it alone good luck any way
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Think how long a year is for this guy lol 24 months
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come on do you really think i do one job a year??maths lesson needed if you want to have an adult conversation please do the maths if i just do one job at a 1000pcm thats 24,000 pa just for 12jobs good point
check out peoples previous posts ;)
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oh my 1000pcm of work is 2000pcm of payment 24,000 pa thick as this is getting silly now
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come on do you really think i do one job a year??maths lesson needed if you want to have an adult conversation please do the maths if i just do one job at a 1000pcm thats 24,000 pa just for 12jobs good point
check out peoples previous posts ;)
Your like a rash - boring,annoying and wont go away
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But you wont be doing that yearly will you. you charge x2. No guarantee where the next request of work will come from is there. Having your own work would earn you x 12 and it would be regular. Mate im not dissing you, just bit of advice to make it work better. No Canvassing company makes it at the end, Yet all well run window cleaning rounds do. I found this out the hard way
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oh my 1000pcm of work is 2000pcm of payment 24,000 pa thick as this is getting silly now
God your missing the point - £1000 of work per month your selling for £2000 = profit £2000
you clean the £1000pcm of work yourself = profit £12000 for 12 months at £1000
Get it ?
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come on do you really think i do one job a year??maths lesson needed if you want to have an adult conversation please do the maths if i just do one job at a 1000pcm thats 24,000 pa just for 12jobs good point
check out peoples previous posts ;)
Your like a rash - boring,annoying and wont go away
Im like a rash, mate you so need to look at youself, and whose too say I was talking about your previous posts.
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do they not have construction forums
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do they not have construction forumss
lmao sorry mate thought you was on about us lol
Your not that bad really ;D
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you are so thick mate your saying im only doing one a year while basing the 12000 on 12months blimey do the maths i can get 2000 per month for a thousand pound canvassing or 1000 a month an clean it all myself make up mate
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you are so thick mate your saying im only doing one a year while basing the 12000 on 12months blimey do the maths i can get 2000 per month for a thousand pound canvassing or 1000 a month an clean it all myself make up mate
Dont rise to it mate, these arent your future customers but people reading your replys could be,
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i know its so frustrating though try to do things right and be refreshing eh why bother sometimes i dont know
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Example
based on £1000pcm worked yourself guarantees you £12000 pa
£1000pcm of work sold for £2000 guarantees you £2000 for that round
For the example we are using 1 round - This round either earns you £2000 or £12000
work it yourself the works guaranteed for years - sell it you get £2000 and no guarantee of more custom. You have to hope someone else wants £1000pcm of work from you to get an income where if you kept all the rounds you canvassed you would be able to calculate accurately your turnover/profit/expendature etc on a guaranteed income
Its clear your not business minded you have no idea on your numbers and i definately wont be using or reccommending your services - Good luck anyway
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end of the day who is on the forum at half 11 on a sunday night looking for work. If your a wc why dont you post or talk about window cleaning giving advice as you have been doing it 10 years so you say???. You wont make it with your attitude. Instead of makeing out we are thick look closer to home. I have tried it and it dont work,
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ok maybe be more specific one minute ur said 12 months now its in 1 rounds how about you leave this thread if your not interested thanks ryan
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canvass get 1000 of work and get payed 2,5x for it so 2500, if you clean the windows you get paid once till you return again, so do a £10 house you get £10 but he got £25 for that so hows that not a business.
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Example
based on £1000pcm worked yourself guarantees you £12000 pa
£1000pcm of work sold for £2000 guarantees you £2000 for that round
For the example we are using 1 round - This round either earns you £2000 or £12000
work it yourself the works guaranteed for years - sell it you get £2000 and no guarantee of more custom. You have to hope someone else wants £1000pcm of work from you to get an income where if you kept all the rounds you canvassed you would be able to calculate accurately your turnover/profit/expendature etc on a guaranteed income
Its clear your not business minded you have no idea on your numbers and i definately wont be using or reccommending your services - Good luck anyway
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO he will learn it isnt a guarenteed £2000 for a £1000 canvassed. so many cancelations will occur. I worked out over the 6 months i did it for that the overall cancelation rate was near 40 percent.So not worth it, If it was we all would be doing it hey
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alishalucy please tell me why u stand out from other companys
as iv said iv used 4 and had one which was ok so tell me if i spend 5000 with you why will your work be so much better
thanks
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end of the day who is on the forum at half 11 on a sunday night looking for work. If your a wc why dont you post or talk about window cleaning giving advice as you have been doing it 10 years so you say???. You wont make it with your attitude. Instead of makeing out we are thick look closer to home. I have tried it and it dont work,
So he was 10 yrs old when he started ???
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one round on £1000pcm you would clean that round earning £1000pcm 12x a year if you was cleaning it yourself earning you £12000
If you canvass the round to sell your profit off that round based on £1000pcm is £2000
Round turnover £1000pcm
Clean it - £12000 profit PA
Canvas to sell £2000 profit (One Off Payment)
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one round on £1000pcm you would clean that round earning £1000pcm 12x a year if you was cleaning it yourself earning you £12000
If you canvass the round to sell your profit off that round based on £1000pcm is £2000
Round turnover £1000pcm
Clean it - £12000 profit PA
Canvas to sell £2000 profit (One Off Payment)
i get your point but who gives a sh**
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hi if you are interested email me at rgriffiths11@hotmail.co.uk as im finding it difficult on here and probably a bad move on my part. regards ryan
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If he cleaned the work himself canvassing £1000pcm thats a growth of £12000 per year on turnover...
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canvass get 1000 of work and get payed 2,5x for it so 2500, if you clean the windows you get paid once till you return again, so do a £10 house you get £10 but he got £25 for that so hows that not a business.
Short term on paper it looks as he would be better off. if he did the maths long term and kept work and employed or franchised it out it be such a different picture. 5 rounds each earning £6000 a month(top quality rounds) thats 30000 a month before outgoings.I dont employ to that sort of level but say half of that is profit i dont think he will be earning £15000 a month canvassing. If hes a shiner then why wouldnt he be doing it this way???. I was just using an example before you say dream world of 5 rounds at £6000
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As a business it makes more sense to go for guaranteed work then one o ff work
Hes trying to tell me and MSTAV who done this before its a viable business but he cant see it himself.
Ryan be honest with yourself mate and look at the possibilities before you throw away a large amount of work for someone esle to reap the rewards
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ok thanks for advice guys kinds regards ryan
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Good luck hope you dont waste your time
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who mark bonham? Wheres he from?
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marks done it a lot longer than me but we have a round together now and canvass together so its good we've been best mates for many years.
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Who does he know who cleans in St Helens?
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i'll have to check with him sorry i know who it is but i dont really think its right to give you his details sorry
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Dont want the details just want to know the company incase i know them lol
Mark says i do but i couldnt ask him who because he went offline
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i think you know him too actually reading your last posts mate but ask mark he's the best man to ask matey
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Dont you know what they are called
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sorry
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If i dont get to ask him ask him for me and let me know tomorrow
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no worries i will do
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oh my 1000pcm of work is 2000pcm of payment 24,000 pa thick as this is getting silly now
God your missing the point - £1000 of work per month your selling for £2000 = profit £2000
you clean the £1000pcm of work yourself = profit £12000 for 12 months at £1000
Get it ?
PWNC are you confusing profit and turnover £1000 of work a month will not make you £12.000 profit...
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oh my 1000pcm of work is 2000pcm of payment 24,000 pa thick as this is getting silly now
God your missing the point - £1000 of work per month your selling for £2000 = profit £2000
you clean the £1000pcm of work yourself = profit £12000 for 12 months at £1000
Get it ?
PWNC are you confusing profit and turnover £1000 of work a month will not make you £12.000 profit...
If worked alone for 12 months £1000 a month x 12months is £12000
Profit or turnover either is debatable
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:) :)
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If worked alone for 12 months £1000 a month x 12months is £12000
Profit or turnover either is debatable
:o
How did you work that 1 out? ;D
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Sorry I should have quoted profit and takings silly me ;D I take it you don't have expenses then as long as you don't employ ??? ;D ;D
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hi if you are interested email me at rgriffiths11@hotmail.co.uk as im finding it difficult on here and probably a bad move on my part. regards ryan
As i never got a call back il take it you dont want the work
good luck any way
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sorry mark rang you didnt he manny?ryan
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Evar?
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sorry mark rang you didnt he manny?ryan
he was going to call back to say if you wanted work or not no call
never mind iv got somone else now thanks any way
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no probs good luck manny