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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: bliteamite on May 16, 2005, 04:57:29 pm
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Anyone out there ever been on an Alltec seminar? They promise an awful lot in their flyers if you attend their marketing course or spend £3000 on their 'Fast Track system'
I had one conversation a year ago with the boss of Alltec who insisted I would be able to charge £250 + for cleaning a suite ??? I don't think so!!!!
Still I could be wrong. Anyone actually done it?
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Had same invite and have booked on June 2nd seminar at Gatwick.
Sceptical but open minded ::)
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I went on the day Seminar.
Now it does not cost you anything apart from your time.
I did not think there was a big Sales pitch, just the oposite
So go and learn.
Dont let the high price for a suite put you off.
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Chris
Is the Nick going? If so you can compare notes on darts. ;D
Would ask for my money but its FREE See you there!
Before you ask my trainee is also coming his turn to drive. :P
Len
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bliteamite yes been on the discovery day and signed up to fasttrack a couple of months ago still sorting stuff out but getting their slowly alot of work involved but from the adverts i`ve placed from the fasttrack getting bigger jobs and better homes so i`m really exicted about the other things to get in place but the cost is £3500.00plus the dreaded vat so nearer to 4 grand thats what i payed so it better not be cheaper
cheers
malc
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Malc,
Its all down to you and how much you apply it, take it from someone who knows.
Some long established Fast Trackers claimed two years ago to be in excess of £250 for a suite and 56p plus vat per square foot for carpet, but lets not get into all that. Fast Track can only do you good and enhance your business whether you are porty or Tm.
Dave.
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While we are on the Subject at Milton Keynes we were offerd the Mini Coaching Programme.
Some applied, how did you get on.
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Hi All
Yes im sorry to say but it is just a BIG SALES PITCH for there Fasttrack program.
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Like author above, my husband and I recently signed up to the Fast Track Program. Still in early days but everything we are being taught and advised to do, makes a lot of sense. Obviously you need to put a lot of work in, but we are hoping that we will be reaping the rewards. Have met Robert Saunders, Owner of Alltec quite a few times now, and he seems a genuinely nice guy, really wanting to help our businesses.
Will let you know in a few months if the money is coming in like we hope, but we are very optomistic. I suggest you give the Discovery Day a go, and take it from there - that's what we did.
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The more you put in, the more you get out. Just like running any business.
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Gav
So not a lot of difference between them and us! ;D Think Dave and Karl’s are right
At the end of the day they are taking time out and giving something free believe to first 20 (am one not that naïve with the word free printing/delivering cost a fortune)
Len
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Hi Len and All
When I paid! to go on one of the Discovery Days I was told it was a course on Marketing and to me it did not feel like any course I have been on, and I have been on a quiet a few now.
Just a hard sell on Fasttrack
Alltec knew I did not wont to be part of the Fasttrack from others courses I have been on with them. So why did they sell it to me!
And thats about 4-5 courses so far and many many thousands of pounds on other things with them, so I know what there courses are like! and the Discovery Day was no COURSE
Regards Gavin
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Hi All
As someone who has been associated with FastTrack now for 4 years I can say that it's a very good idea to go on a Discovery Day. There's nothing wrong with being sceptical....I was extremely sceptical back in 2001. However the first thing you learn is to change your mindset, so an open mind is essential. You could of course stay exactly as you are (I struggled along for 12 years before), but now my business virtually runs itself, my average job ticket is over £200-, I have about £30K work booked in over the next 12 months, I have practically no advertising at all....and yes I'm a one man band doing mainly residential and with a portable!!
Go on give it a go, what have you got to lose?
Good Luck
Alan Kember
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Seems most are positive about the alltec fast track experience. However none of there courses are close enough for me to attend. So for the moment I'll have to sit on it.
Thanks for everyones responses though.
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Must be an airport nearbye Bliteamite.
I've attended a number of courses and presentations run by the Saunders brothers, over anumber of years.
They are always well run and informative and there was never any excessive marketing of their products.
If you received the flyer, you will find a list of courses and they are well run, by good trainers and very inexpensive.
Just do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rob meldrum
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Hi Bliteamite
I too have received an invitation from Alltec re the Discovery day/fast track. My view on it is that the discovery days are an opportunity for you to get a snapshot of what the fast track course is. The fast track course is where you will learn to make more money (apparently).
I am interested in the fast track course but like you there are non near me this time around, apparently there will be one in Birmingham next time. As far as paying for the discovery day.... I am not willing to pay for someone to try and sell me somethink, especially at the sort of money Alltec will be looking for. I don't mind giving up a day of my time and incurr minimal costs for transprt etc but to pay to attend a sales pitch..... don't think so.
Ring Alltec and tell them your interested but are not willing to pay to be sold something and that you want a gift certificate for a discovery day in your area, see what you get, I think you'll be surprised.
Chris
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I started the fast track programe in Jan this year. I have been in the cleaning business for 30 years and have found it to be the best thing i have ever done.
Talk is cheap, try it.
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Blitamite,
Whats your name? Anyway, There was a lad from Glasgow on our Fast Track at Royston near Cambridge, he used air travel, where theres a will theres a way.
When the sessions were at Royston, I and others stayed at B&Bs nearby. Sure there are further expenses to the main cost, but if you are there at at THAT crossroad, which way do you go. Stay as you are or go for it, nothing will change, if you do nothing. Alan Kember is a shining example of what the Fast Track can do for you. As I have previously stated I do not implement the program as well as I could, but I could start to do so at any time I choose and I know that by doing so, I could lift my business to another level. Personal business at the present tells me now is not the right time, but it will be soon.
Even though, I dont, since doing the Fast Track I had the biggest rise in turnover during the year that I was doing the training. The following year, using only 4 strategies I almost doubled my turnover, and believe me I am a lazy marketer and hate advertising.
Dave.
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Alan,
Welcome to Cleanitup. I hope that you will pop in from time to time.
I want to pick your brains on a Discovery day stratergy.
I have sent you a Private Message,
Regards
Ian
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Fast track has dramatically changed my business for the better.
Its worth every penny and more.
Get yourselves on a discovery day as quick as possible, I didnt regret it - I can confidentley say that fast track is the best business investment i've ever made.
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Sadly had to withdraw my name from the list for 2nd June at Gatwick. :-[
Old customer moving house that day and needs me in at noon to clean carpets once emptied ::)
Will wait for response to the day, especially Uncle Len, and rebook at a later date.
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having started my carpet cleaning business in 2002, I had no data base and only my customers from my window cleaning round,but i thought (wrongly) that i could get loads of work from them, HOW WRONG I WAS!!! in fact most of these so called loyal customers only saw me as the window cleaner trying to clean carpets and were thinking that " if they make you a bacon butty and give you a cuppa then you would clean the through lounge for free"
HOW WRONG THEY WERE!!!
having read about FASTTRACK, and having thoroughly checked the company out, I took the plunge and joined, remember i had NO customers to speak of, to start withb it was very slow and i seemed to be paying out all the time an d was really skint, but having spoken to one on the guys on the programme who had joined the previous cyear he said " hang in ther and DO NOT DROP YOUR PRICES TO GET WORK" so i did as he advised, work came in slowly but soon i was earning more money in a day than in a whole week of window cleaning and also i did'nt matter about the weather anymore (hoorah)
i still use a portable, work 2/3 jobs a day and have never been as busy , in fact in April i had my best week ever! but Then again i do keep up the marketing.
i am at a stage now where i work 4.5 - 5 days a week (very rarley a saturday and never on a sunday) start at 9 o clock, fininish at 3-4 o clock, do some quotes and get home about 5.30
THIS IS ALL THANKS TO THE FASTTRACT WAY OF THINKING, AND I THANK GOD I TOOK THE PLUNGE 3 YEARS AGO!!
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Chris
Time management is needed; do you want to borrow the TM or at least my hitec state of the art machine (Ninja) this is what is stated in my local rag, still a good machine cant get my head round hitec (hi-tech). Nor the picture of filling the machine in the front room?
Any way must be limited in numbers; so not seeing old faces must be a bonus! ;D ;D
All
See a lot of first time posters here on a promo ad very sad, your credibility is a bit suspect but at least some have given the names.
I have been on one their fast track days in Windsor a few years ago and thought the same, I want your money! They did not get it, think they have fine-tuned sales approach to you, isn’t that what we do to customers, go on it’s FREE some will say I will lose a days work will you! And then make your own mind up!
Len
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Hi Colin are you still on anger management?
have you heard anything from Gary Sayers?
Give me a call sometime, I'll not bore you like I did at Mold!!
Shaun
07968 106047
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I can fly ( in a plane ) from Glasgow to London for as little as £19
R M
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Len,
Like you have been a bit concerned about testimonials.
Just hope some look in regularly and contribute and do not constantly mention Fastrack, Ultimate Master, Promite etc.
Because to keep balance I will have to mention One Step, Prochem Extracta, Ashbys and whats the name of that producy ??? ??? Allergy Stop.
Not forgeting our sponsor.
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Ian
I don’t have problem with testimonials, what doses concern me if one looks at their profiles note how many posts made, coincidence!
Like you hope they stay on board.
How can I forget the forum sponsor I got my machine from them!
Len
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Len,
You old cynic , BUT when I reread this thread your'e right :D
Four brand new posters all extolling the virtues ;)
Cheers,
Doug
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Hi Shaun,
i've leaned that by calling people " Peasants" when doing a quote did'nt really work! so now im much calmer and get pretty much most of the jobs i go for.
if people don't want to pay the price for a professional, quality service,then i just walk away.
anyhow business is fantastic and its been the best start to the year i've ever had.
i think the real secret is just to do consistant marketing, it does'nt have to be a hugh amount, but constant,
i've booked jobs from flyers that went out months ago, but if the AD is interesting enough, and full of usefull information, then i find people do keep them for when THEY are ready to use you.
anyway as for all the sceptics out there, i do champion the fasttrack for very good reasons, IT WORKS.
i do run what i consider to be a successfull and ethical business and people who can vouch for that
Dave lee, Shaun Ashmore, john Flynn, steve gunn and of course Nick from solutions (p.s i also use this range of products as well)
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Doug
Old head on a young body, consistence that helps, just like direct marketing!
In no way am I having a go at them, think there input would be very beneficial to all.
Colin
Now I understand what Shaun meant by anger management by the names you listed! ;D ;D
Len
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Colin,
I remember a couple of years ago when you had just started, and I know how desperate and skint you were. When I questioned your high prices and your lack of jobs, you were determined to stick to the price, often with the comment " I'm not working for nothing." We were on the same Fast Track course, you were a new starter and I had already 22 plus years in. I put my prices up 50% straight away (which had no adverse effect, jobs wise) but even with that your prices were still somewhat higher, and youve raised them a few times since. Last November and December were my best ever two months and I know that our takings during that time were similar, the thing was for those two months I did around, 150 jobs to your 65 or so. You now have a very successful, lucrative business, which you would not have, had you not taken the plunge and done the Fast Track, by your own admission, and the way you thought at the time, if you had just set up and done things as YOU thought even though your had done the relevent courses, you would now be like a lot of other CCs in your area - a low priced, rushing around price cutting fool, who didnt have a clue.
Well done for sticking by your principles and listening to those who really do know and for anyone just starting out or wanting to change their bad habits, find out more about the Fast Track, be single minded and dont listen to those who knock it just because they have not got the bottle to splash the cash and go for it.
Dave. (Im not angry, just being serious ;D)
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Well Colin got to twp.
Len Mike told me he sold you a truckmount.
I said I would like one but Blinds take to much of my time, for little profit.
What Fast Track is about is breaking the old repeditive cycle.
Think the saying goes if you do today what you did yesterday thats what you will get.
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Ian
If you always do, what you have always done. you will always get, what you have always got ;D
Regards Gavin
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Good word about Colin, Dave.
I too remember when Colin 1st started he would call me and say " What have I done John all my savings have gone, but he stuck at it and then BANG it all dropped into place and now as Dave says, Colin has one hell of a sucessful business, much better than mine and I been at it 6 years (too long).
Well done Colin you are the one guy to prove all these sceptics of Fast Trak wrong, you took the bit in your mouth and went for it.
Again I say " Congratulations Colin Bright"
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Dave Lee/John Flynn,
How good it is to see people being positive and congratulating to others. I'm sure Colin must feel proud to have acheived this, and to receive encouragement from people such as yourselves.
Your sentiments show all that's best in people in this industry.
Long may you both prosper too.
Martin
(just a beginner also, but hoping to get there one day)
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Ian, I think youve got your colin's mixed up
i dont have a truckmount!
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Colin
Think Ian was referring to me, even I had to reread (Len Mike) unless it something to do with abbreviation TWP!
Ian
Yes he beat all my local distributors prices, think the word is greed in a big way on their part and they only had to make phone calls and pay money in to the bank. :(
Len
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Colin,
One thing you will learn is I cannot type.
Although I should THINK before I post I tend to use this board as if you were talking to mates down the pub, so I rarely re read what I have posted
However I am amazed that a Fast Tracker has not got a Truckmount I thought they were included in the price ;D ;D ;D
Seriously what I meant was Colin has got to Two posts, now you are at Three .
Regards
Ian
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Make that 4
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Colin get out there and give them Custards some Verbal !!
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When I first met Colin I could not believe the way he called customers peasants if they did not go for his sales pitch but that was along time ago.I remember he booked a job for over £400 now he is reaping the rewards for all his efforts well done mate
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slighty off thread i was booked to go on a 2 day course at Royston last week with Altec but had to postpone due to other comittments.
In the post yesterday i recieved a certificate from Altec stating i had passed the aforementioned course.
Cheers Mark.
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Ian
A T/M is only a tool no more no less; the same can be said of fast track, both in the rights hands the world!
Colin
I take it that you didn’t say peasants to their faces? I admit only once did I blow a fuse that was a few years ago poor s o b still has my finger prints round his neck and I still do a lot of work for him.
Len
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Len,
Colin will speak for himself, but I believe he did in fact call them to their face. I think this was just during one audit when they wouldnt go with his quote. You are absolutely right when you say Fast Track is a tool. Ive got all the tools, but as yet ive left 95% of them still in the box.
Dave.
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Len
I second what Dave says about Colin but I daren't say it first.
John
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Dave/John
There may have been mitigating circumstances in why he said that, I know in my case I was fully justified, since when is the customer King or Queen (just to keep a even balance ;D ;D)
Len
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I have written on this forum before about fastrack and Robert Saunders (mid dec 04) - my opinion of this company is still a 1st class set up and anyone who goes on this course and puts in a couple of stratergies , will benefit themselves and their families by working less and be more productive - i will gladly talk to anyone about fastrack 07973 823102 - please ring after 5 june (on holiday in 7 star hotel in dubai) ps only joking about dubai
Colin And Dave hope you are well !!!
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Dutch, geezer, you silver foxed mongoose
nice to see you are
still alive after channel 4 have fiinished with you
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;)I have been on acouple of Altec sales courses, even met mr joe polish himself. I never took up their select team mebership itself but what i did learn was how to market my business; raise cost whilst retaining customers ect. I now do less work and have doubled my profits! Like their machines, chemicals they are seconed to none. If you want to get ahead go onsome of their courses, you won't reget it. What a lot of peple don't appreciate is that these guys are helping us, move on quicker, ie I've achieved more in the past few years than I have in the whole 20-odd years I've been in business!
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See you Thursday len ;D
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Nick
You may have trouble recognising me! I will the one in the hood (the reaper) hope it not bared! ;D
Len
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Len have you not looked at the news recently?
No Hoodies and no Baseball caps ;D
Shaun
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im sure i will recognise master Yoda :P
dont forget that disc ;)
Nick
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Shaun
Aren’t they talking about a group of people? ;D
Nick
Already in the briefcase and it has an s on the end don’t for get the one I’m after! As did not work via e-mail :(
Len
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Mine will be in the Tesco carrier bag :-[
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Nick
You snob! ;D
Len
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I think you meant slob :'(
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Nick
Thought slob began with C cant be Shaw.
Len
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Len you lose me at the best of times ::) but your Jedi language has taken the biscuit this time old boy!