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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on August 29, 2009, 08:25:43 pm

Title: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on August 29, 2009, 08:25:43 pm
Just picked this up today - a Cimex R38, never been used - retails at £1400 + vat.

I paid £ 125  !!

Gonna cost me approx £ 150 for water tank and 3 scrub brushes, then I'm up and running and able to encap for under £ 300 with a brand new machine.

A bargain off e-bay for a change.


Steve
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Len Gribble on August 29, 2009, 08:37:48 pm
Steve

Could not agree more! When you get the other parts can I borrow it for a demo? Where’s the dog better looking than the machine ;)

Len
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on August 29, 2009, 08:44:39 pm
Anything for you Mr.Gribble

I owe you one !




Steve
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Joe H on August 29, 2009, 09:05:04 pm
Steve
with it being the smaller of the 3 models, perhaps more suitable for domestic jobs too.

and you got a lot of pads - worth a few bob.

Well done
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Len Gribble on August 29, 2009, 09:29:28 pm
Steve

No you don’t I offered not for gain! From Joe’s knowledge think it would have fitted the bill on job today spot cleaning an area of 5500sqm (seems to be the norm now on my contracts) now to price up

Len
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Mike Osbourne on August 29, 2009, 09:30:55 pm
You grabbed yourself a bargain there Steve.  :)
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on August 29, 2009, 10:30:56 pm
Just the one Clinton.

The story is that a firm bought it new to clean their own floor, never used it - its still got foam protectors on the lugs underneath - and then the boss instructed the staff to dump it !!

One of the staff asked if her son could sell it on e-bay to get a bit of cash as he and his wife were starting a family.

Just won a commercial contract for £300 per month for the next year, so this will fit the bill perfectly.


Steve
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: clinton on August 29, 2009, 10:44:41 pm
You were lucky with that one then and brand new :)

Thats good steve with the contract as it opens doors to more work as i found out and you could make 20k a year with that.

good luck

Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Jason Hedges on August 29, 2009, 11:50:00 pm
Nice one Steve!

A refreshing change to hear about someone having a bargain from ebay.

Goog luck with it and well done you ;)

All the best,
Jason.
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: carpetfitta on August 30, 2009, 05:12:29 pm
if anyone is interested, theres an extra wide victor 470 (470mm) upright commercial vac on ebay.these have 850w vac motors like most commerical uprights but the brush motor is a bit more powerful than ur average sebo bs36. worth a look if you live nearby..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Victor-470-Classic-Commercial-Upright-Vacuum-470mm_W0QQitemZ260468714811QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item3ca5252d3b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: gwrightson on August 30, 2009, 07:04:38 pm
bargain Steve,

you will re coup your money with in 2- 3 hrs work

I was considering bidding myself , but decided to stick with my r48 , having said that the pads and brushes would have been use full ;), to be honest I,m not a lover of the pads I find the brushes cope better. 

one word advise stay away from procap in this machine and go for the cimex solutions, and a quick demo at any commercial contact will get you the job.

geoff
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on August 30, 2009, 07:35:19 pm
Thanks Geoff

Could you run through the cleaning proceedure ?

I assume its pre-vac, scrub and then re-vac ............ but how long usually does the solution take to dry before you can vac up ?

Also which solution do you prefer and at what dilution rates ?

Cheers


Steve
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: derek west on August 30, 2009, 08:29:27 pm
i was put off by the re vac.
derek
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: gwrightson on August 30, 2009, 09:00:32 pm
Steve,

I have yet to go back to a job to post vac, when surveying i stress to the custy of the importance of this part of the process , i ask on what regularity the floors are normally vacuumed and by whom, usually they will have in house cleaners and if it is not on their schedule to vac every day they will make a point of ensuring it is done the next day, although a pre vac is often done before i get there ,I do prevac myself.
I would suggest sticking to cimex encap solution, but do wish others were available dilution rate 16 -1
often a good idea to add a water softner tablet if in hard water area. the optimum results are achieved by creating a thin even layer of foam , this is achieved by pushing forward realisng the fluid and pulling back over the area just covered at a slow walking pace, to slow and to much foam is created, on area,s not badly soiled you can release the solution in bursts pulling the trigger on and off there fore saving solution and money, this is not cutting corners it is recommended by cimex , in badly stained areas do not be tempted to add more solution, simply go over the area with dry passses and for bad spots etc cimex do have an encap spotting solution, pretty good too.

normaly the carpet is ready for a vac the next day, this gives the chance for the chrytalisation and encapsulation to work.
Hope this helps
geoff
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Joe H on August 30, 2009, 09:01:45 pm
Steve
Takes 90 minutes or less to dry.
Most operators will leave the post vaccing to the custys office cleaners.
The crystals are minute - cant see them in the carpet, but you can see the difference in the clean immediately.
You will pick up loads of tips here

http://www.encapboard.com/

I have used Chemspec Rotobrite 11 from John K, and Cimex Encap from Simon Collins who posts on here.

You Tube Cimex as well.
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Mike Osbourne on August 30, 2009, 09:07:01 pm
Be interesting to see some results.

How do you know how good a job it's done until it's hoovered up? I just don't like to think I just leave it without knowing the result. :-\
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: gwrightson on August 30, 2009, 09:07:38 pm

An after thought ,

I do wish a company would import the realise it , would love a try ,

Any of our australian or usa friends fancy sending me a sample ;) ;D

geofff
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: gwrightson on August 30, 2009, 09:11:07 pm
Mike ,
when you say you would like to see some results do a search , i have posted a number of pics in the past . as for seeing results  their is no need to go back the finished results , you will see immediately the effect, I can see the point you are making but a bit like saying you need to go back after you have h/w/e , because only the true results are seen when carpet completely dry, especially in t/l areas  these often look worse whilst still damp.

geoff
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: derek west on August 30, 2009, 09:25:24 pm
so in effect, your not actually taking away any soil at all, your just wrapping them in little parcels for the custy to hoover up?
just asking, not having ago.
derek
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on August 30, 2009, 09:31:21 pm
Derek

Thats the theory


Geoff

Thanks for the info - I've got a couple of very large prospects that I am looking forward to doing a demo for, where HWE simply isn't an option.

Joe

Thanks, I will check that out.


Steve
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: gwrightson on August 30, 2009, 09:33:37 pm
Correct, Derick

and an effective tool it is too,

I have a few high profile custys all won on this systems flexibility, instant results and one important factor, it is quiet ,unobtrusive and fast drying able to work where other systems may be limited due to working environments.
geoff
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Mike Osbourne on August 30, 2009, 09:36:44 pm
Geoff

Yeah, actually what you say makes sense.

Also I would be keen to source some release it, why on earth someone doesn't distrubute it is beyond me.
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: simoncollins on September 01, 2009, 08:12:05 am
Steve

A great bargain, well done. I must look on E-bay more often!

We supply the Cimex-Encap solution. I'll email you the details and pricing.

I can also supply a CD-Rom on the Cimex-Encap system including how the machine and the chemistry works. If you let me know you're address I'd be happy to send you one.

If anyone else is interested in the chemical please email me at simoncollins68@hotmail.co.uk.

Simon
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Joe H on September 01, 2009, 08:48:56 am
Simon
I would be interested in knowing if you do a bigger rear wheel conversion.

I have seen a post on a UK forum of how to do it but cant find.
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: kinder clean on September 01, 2009, 10:24:26 am
Simon

I'm with Joe, a rear wheel conversion kit with pnumatic tyres would be a good seller.

Also could I get one of those CD roms ?

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: simoncollins on September 01, 2009, 04:59:40 pm
Paul,

What's your address so I can send you the CD-Rom?

I'll also check the situation re rear wheel conversions and get back.

Cheers,
Simon
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: gwrightson on September 01, 2009, 05:20:01 pm
To be fair guys , never really had a problem with wheels been to small :-\

usualy any thing above ground floor have lifts any way , well commercialy .

geoff
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: derek west on September 01, 2009, 05:55:25 pm
pick the bluddy thing up ya big load of big girls blouses, next you'll be wanting glides on it. ;D
derek
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Joe H on September 01, 2009, 06:10:50 pm

usualy any thing above ground floor have lifts any way , well commercialy .

geoff

Doing a 2 floor office on Friday - no lift, difficult to pull up stairs.
Derek
Its not so much the weight (though they are heavy) but its an awkward shape
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: derek west on September 01, 2009, 06:36:29 pm
throw it over your shoulder joe, that way youve got a hand free to carry your whole room dryer. ;D
i'll show ya shall i?
derek
Title: Re: E-Bay bargain
Post by: Joe H on September 01, 2009, 07:48:39 pm
You'll show me!

Look forward to that Derek  ;D

Mind you, John Bolton was telling me on that forum how he could lift the Scorpion into his Transit one handed.
I did'nt believe him, told him so, and he posted a video of him doing it.
I promptly went out to my Relay van and also did it - only the once though.