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Title: Yell.com
Post by: a900 on August 27, 2009, 08:54:09 am
Hi,

I have had a call from a man at yell.com and he has offered me a 6 bullet pointed advertisement on there website with an additional information page allowing more text, bullets and 20 pics. I can manage the add an make any changes i want. And i can assess the searches, calls and links to my website on an ongoing basis on there online system.

They have offered a 4 page seo website (wont be a fancy one) and a seperate tel no listed on the advertisement. (So i know how many calls they get me)

I would be in a 12 month contract and they are looking at about £210 or 21 pm for 10 months.

What do you guys think? Does window cleaning and Yell.com work?
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: Gleaming windows on August 27, 2009, 09:03:38 am
Sounds a reasonable deal for them. I always thought they were a lot more expensive than that.

Id ask to be able to SEE someones ad/site etc who has a similiar package to see exactly what you are getting.

Matt
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: lyndy on August 27, 2009, 09:19:45 am
we have put one on there for free,you can only put your company name and address thou
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: Terry_Burrows on August 27, 2009, 09:37:01 am
 ::) from past adds! dont bother waste of money :-*
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: matt on August 27, 2009, 09:55:27 am
Hi,

I have had a call from a man at yell.com and he has offered me a 6 bullet pointed advertisement on there website with an additional information page allowing more text, bullets and 20 pics. I can manage the add an make any changes i want. And i can assess the searches, calls and links to my website on an ongoing basis on there online system.

They have offered a 4 page seo website (wont be a fancy one) and a seperate tel no listed on the advertisement. (So i know how many calls they get me)

I would be in a 12 month contract and they are looking at about £210 or 21 pm for 10 months.

What do you guys think? Does window cleaning and Yell.com work?

its not a bad price, it only needs to bring in 1 small commercial job to pay for itself

Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: leapstallbuildings on August 27, 2009, 10:14:13 am
Hi,

I have had a call from a man at yell.com and he has offered me a 6 bullet pointed advertisement on there website with an additional information page allowing more text, bullets and 20 pics. I can manage the add an make any changes i want. And i can assess the searches, calls and links to my website on an ongoing basis on there online system.

They have offered a 4 page seo website (wont be a fancy one) and a seperate tel no listed on the advertisement. (So i know how many calls they get me)

I would be in a 12 month contract and they are looking at about £210 or 21 pm for 10 months.

What do you guys think? Does window cleaning and Yell.com work?

That's a good deal.  Sounds like a special offer. I paid more than that and got less in return.  I won't be renewing though.  This is not because of yell but because I currently need to cut my outgoings as much as possible.  When my finances are better, I will consider another ad.  They've been phoning me too in recent days.  I just don't want to talk to them at the moment because they just keep going on and won't shut up until they've said their piece.  Whenever the number comes up, I just disconnect it.
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: Terry_Burrows on August 27, 2009, 10:19:23 am
The prob is all u get is people asking u for money ??? we never got one job in from yell ever,so dont beleave what they say ::)
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: matt on August 27, 2009, 10:59:45 am
i put a free ad on yell.com at the start of the year, only because all the other local WC'er had, and i wanted to see what i was missing out on

well i missed out on calls to :

sell me a new mobile phone contract
sell me insurance of various types
sell me a " lease on a van "
sell me web design

notice a pattern here  ;D
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: Paul_Rolfe on August 27, 2009, 12:04:46 pm
Big thumbs down in all respects.

And they will NEVER stop phoning you, even years later, trying to sell you something.
Awful.
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: GWCS on August 27, 2009, 01:18:32 pm
Big thumbs down in all respects.

And they will NEVER stop phoning you, even years later, trying to sell you something.
Awful.

When you sign up to them (whoever you sign up to for a free directy line) you give them the right to send or contact you regrading advertising.

Should you not wish for this ask to be removed from the any yell advertising space (or other company) and be totally removed from all their databases and do not contact you as per your request.

Legally they have to take notice of this, otherwise you can do them for harassment.

Just like any sales calls via the use of yell, like mobile phones - sign up to the TPS and when companies do use the details they find from yell or other directories, get all their details in return and report them.

If you dont they will simply keep calling as you have not requested for them not to, even if you say so over the phone..

I have since seen a massive drop in sales calls i hardly get any now - but it does take some work on your part - So basically how peed are you with sales? at the end of the day they are only door knocking like we would canvassing for business, so the shoe is on the other foot now - see how you like it!

Yell.com are OK for business, i find more commercial clients use yell.com to get a professional company in to do the windows. Those who advertise in yell, have money behind them and are proper business's. It does pay to be in depending what you are advertising for.. If residential then dont bother..

As some have said just  1 commercial job could pay for the entire year of yell advertising. But it could take over 30 residential jobs??
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: STEVE-UK on August 27, 2009, 02:27:06 pm
Hi,

I have had a call from a man at yell.com and he has offered me a 6 bullet pointed advertisement on there website with an additional information page allowing more text, bullets and 20 pics. I can manage the add an make any changes i want. And i can assess the searches, calls and links to my website on an ongoing basis on there online system.

They have offered a 4 page seo website (wont be a fancy one) and a seperate tel no listed on the advertisement. (So i know how many calls they get me)

I would be in a 12 month contract and they are looking at about £210 or 21 pm for 10 months.

What do you guys think? Does window cleaning and Yell.com work?

its not a bad price, it only needs to bring in 1 small commercial job to pay for itself



That was my thinking, So i went for the £1600 option to come 2nd place in gatwick area, got a one of clean for £160.00, I wont doing it again next year!

waste of money!!
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: sparklebright on August 27, 2009, 02:40:15 pm
I have picked up good work from Yell.com. But not from the book itself, don't bother with the book.
Other than the free one line ad which is free so worth whatever it brongs in :)
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: ronniemc on August 27, 2009, 03:46:45 pm
Had a good return from both Yell.com and the Yellow Pages.
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: Paul_Rolfe on August 27, 2009, 04:36:50 pm
Big thumbs down in all respects.

And they will NEVER stop phoning you, even years later, trying to sell you something.
Awful.

When you sign up to them (whoever you sign up to for a free directy line) you give them the right to send or contact you regrading advertising.

Should you not wish for this ask to be removed from the any yell advertising space (or other company) and be totally removed from all their databases and do not contact you as per your request.

Legally they have to take notice of this, otherwise you can do them for harassment.

Just like any sales calls via the use of yell, like mobile phones - sign up to the TPS and when companies do use the details they find from yell or other directories, get all their details in return and report them.

If you dont they will simply keep calling as you have not requested for them not to, even if you say so over the phone..

I have since seen a massive drop in sales calls i hardly get any now - but it does take some work on your part - So basically how peed are you with sales? at the end of the day they are only door knocking like we would canvassing for business, so the shoe is on the other foot now - see how you like it!

Yell.com are OK for business, i find more commercial clients use yell.com to get a professional company in to do the windows. Those who advertise in yell, have money behind them and are proper business's. It does pay to be in depending what you are advertising for.. If residential then dont bother..

As some have said just  1 commercial job could pay for the entire year of yell advertising. But it could take over 30 residential jobs??
You shouldn't have wasted your time typing all that, as I knew it anyway.

I JUST DIDN"T COTTON ON TO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: GWCS on August 27, 2009, 04:46:03 pm
Big thumbs down in all respects.

And they will NEVER stop phoning you, even years later, trying to sell you something.
Awful.

When you sign up to them (whoever you sign up to for a free directy line) you give them the right to send or contact you regrading advertising.

Should you not wish for this ask to be removed from the any yell advertising space (or other company) and be totally removed from all their databases and do not contact you as per your request.

Legally they have to take notice of this, otherwise you can do them for harassment.

Just like any sales calls via the use of yell, like mobile phones - sign up to the TPS and when companies do use the details they find from yell or other directories, get all their details in return and report them.

If you dont they will simply keep calling as you have not requested for them not to, even if you say so over the phone..

I have since seen a massive drop in sales calls i hardly get any now - but it does take some work on your part - So basically how peed are you with sales? at the end of the day they are only door knocking like we would canvassing for business, so the shoe is on the other foot now - see how you like it!

Yell.com are OK for business, i find more commercial clients use yell.com to get a professional company in to do the windows. Those who advertise in yell, have money behind them and are proper business's. It does pay to be in depending what you are advertising for.. If residential then dont bother..

As some have said just  1 commercial job could pay for the entire year of yell advertising. But it could take over 30 residential jobs??
You shouldn't have wasted your time typing all that, as I knew it anyway.

I JUST DIDN"T COTTON ON TO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!

Its there for others info too.. so not really a waste.. I just chose yours to quote, but it could have been anyone's that reported the same problem :D
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: s.hughes on August 27, 2009, 04:50:45 pm
I advertise with them and when I get calls in I always ask where they found me. None absolute none say Yell.com they all say they googled and found me. Now heres the thing: When I mention this to Yell.com they say "How do you think you get into google and so high in their listing when you dont pay em anything, its us that gets you there"
It dosnt make sense, if Yell puts me there then why is there no link or any sign of their site?
I dont understand it and I feel if I dont go ahead this year then I will loose out on all the googles I get

Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on August 27, 2009, 04:57:22 pm
I had it last year and had 3 calls from prospective clients all small residential and not worth my while. So I decided to not renew, like the others I had tonnes of sales people phone me. However had a call last week to do an oil refinary and the only place I can put it down to is either yp or yell, if that's the case then the work has paid for the advertising 4 times over on just one clean.

Yell will also raise your google page ranking if you have a webpage. Possibly upto page 1.  

Simon.
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: windymiller on August 27, 2009, 05:15:48 pm
It all depends on your area and demand for window cleaners in your area.
I put an advert in yell.com. It cost me £400 for the year. I get at least 1 job a week through yell if not more.
In my eyes yell has  more than paid for itself and next year i will be putting a bigger advert on yell.com
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: s.hughes on August 27, 2009, 05:58:19 pm
I had it last year and had 3 calls from prospective clients all small residential and not worth my while. So I decided to not renew, like the others I had tonnes of sales people phone me. However had a call last week to do an oil refinary and the only place I can put it down to is either yp or yell, if that's the case then the work has paid for the advertising 4 times over on just one clean.

Yell will also raise your google page ranking if you have a webpage. Possibly upto page 1. 

Simon.
I have a web page, so that must be what they meant
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: kenaltobelli on August 27, 2009, 06:30:09 pm
yell hasnt been that good this year for me but you win you lose 8)
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: Ian Lancaster on August 27, 2009, 07:06:14 pm
I had it last year and had 3 calls from prospective clients all small residential and not worth my while. So I decided to not renew, like the others I had tonnes of sales people phone me. However had a call last week to do an oil refinary and the only place I can put it down to is either yp or yell, if that's the case then the work has paid for the advertising 4 times over on just one clean.

Yell will also raise your google page ranking if you have a webpage. Possibly upto page 1. 

Simon.
I have a web page, so that must be what they meant

Your Google standing depends on how many people visit your website.  It doesn't matter who it is doing the visiting, just how many.  Yell.com are trying to bamboozle you - it's got nothing to do with them they're just trying to frighten you into wasting more money.

If you type "window cleaner...(followed by your town/area) into Google you should appear somewhere near the top of the listings, otherwise you need to look at the text of your webpage to make sure "window cleaner" and your town are in the first line or two, preferably several times.

Try typing "window cleaner sittingbourne" into google: Guess who comes up ;)
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: leapstallbuildings on August 27, 2009, 07:11:47 pm
Although I have had a higher return from Yell and YP than I've paid out, it must be remembered that it's the profit from these jobs that you need to compare against money paid.  I have to ask myself if it's worth all the aggravation of receiving so many telesales calls (not just from Yell).  All my numbers are registered with the TPS.  I'm happy to receive advertising through the post as I can respond (or not) at my convenience.  However, telesales calls can occur at the most awkward moments and I have NEVER had a telesales caller ask if it's a convenient moment.  I had one recently just keep on and on and wouldn't shut up or listen.  I ended up telling him to go forth and multiply.
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: Paul_Rolfe on August 27, 2009, 07:29:43 pm


Try typing "window cleaner sittingbourne" into google: Guess who comes up ;)
Madam X, serves all tastes?
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: a900 on August 27, 2009, 09:21:56 pm
There certainaly are a mixed bag of responses.

The advert does not cost very much so it might be worth me trying for a year.

Those yell sales men are very persistant.
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: GWCS on August 27, 2009, 09:32:35 pm
There certainaly are a mixed bag of responses.

The advert does not cost very much so it might be worth me trying for a year.

Those yell sales men are very persistant.

are you a new starter?

Do you do much if any commercial jobs?

Are you mainly residential?
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: s.hughes on August 27, 2009, 09:36:20 pm
I had it last year and had 3 calls from prospective clients all small residential and not worth my while. So I decided to not renew, like the others I had tonnes of sales people phone me. However had a call last week to do an oil refinary and the only place I can put it down to is either yp or yell, if that's the case then the work has paid for the advertising 4 times over on just one clean.

Yell will also raise your google page ranking if you have a webpage. Possibly upto page 1. 

Simon.
I have a web page, so that must be what they meant

Your Google standing depends on how many people visit your website. It doesn't matter who it is doing the visiting, just how many. Yell.com are trying to bamboozle you - it's got nothing to do with them they're just trying to frighten you into wasting more money.

If you type "window cleaner...(followed by your town/area) into Google you should appear somewhere near the top of the listings, otherwise you need to look at the text of your webpage to make sure "window cleaner" and your town are in the first line or two, preferably several times.

Try typing "window cleaner sittingbourne" into google: Guess who comes up ;)
Good point
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: a900 on August 28, 2009, 08:08:07 am
Quote

are you a new starter?

Do you do much if any commercial jobs?

Are you mainly residential?
Quote

I am quite new. Started in april.

I dont do any commercial but would like one or two commercial jobs. I am quoting one at the momment.

Yes i am mainly residential.
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: GWCS on August 28, 2009, 11:02:04 am
Quote

are you a new starter?

Do you do much if any commercial jobs?

Are you mainly residential?
Quote

I am quite new. Started in april.

I dont do any commercial but would like one or two commercial jobs. I am quoting one at the momment.

Yes i am mainly residential.

In that case, personally...

I would get into it a bit more first.. learn the trade on resi then when your ready to progress and have money behind you go for commercial.

Dont forget there is alot more paper work involved in commercial with RA and MS if you are to do it properly. Also waiting 30 days (or more) for payment is quite hard if you are not financially sound with that buffer. If they start to mess you about with payments you then need to think about claims action..



Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: mark dew on August 28, 2009, 07:43:42 pm
Get the freeby instead.
I have had a few calls from my free yell.com advert. Picked up a couple of jobs from it that's worth 3K per year.
It's the best money i've never spent.  :)
Title: Re: Yell.com
Post by: TonyD on August 28, 2009, 08:26:17 pm
I used to get good a good response from yell.com ads, but since around January this years they started putting sponsor ads at the top.
I've had several Priority web link adds, that put you at the top with others who have the same in your area, usually around 2 to 5 companies, so it worked well, BUT these sponsored ads now go ABOVE those, so there's always another 3 or 4 above the priority ads, and it's killed the response rate dead for both my Priority ads for 2 different services (£50 or so each per month)
I won't be renewing.   You're better off spending the money on SEO work for your website IMO or other advertising.