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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: purevision on August 22, 2009, 03:44:59 pm
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Dear All,
Just to let you know my mate had his van stolen today from Hayes, Middlesex, London at 2.45pm with a Volvo car following it. It was non sign written with a reach and wash system fitted and a double a frame ladder on the roof.
The van is a white Peugeot Partner reg KL53YZB.
If you see it etc please let me know.
Many thanks,
Nigel
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thanks for the van but the system is not the best mite have to sell it.... :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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too much of this going on lately
what i would like to know is how are they stealing stuff when most things now have an immobiliser as standard
i hope your mates insurance pays out and he gets sorted soon
thanks for the van but the system is not the best mite have to sell it.... :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
im hoping that this is an attempt at poor humor
imagine if it happened to you
i would love to see the replys you get next time you are loking for help
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this site were p takes are taking the p is getting out of hand
what happened to give advices and offering genuine help
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this site were p takes are taking the p is getting out of hand
what happened to give advices and offering genuine help
been like this for years - if you want less p you need another forum.
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gwcs you are taking the P somebody is having a terrible time and you are taking the P absolutely shocking , it could take weeks for him to get up and running without income hope it don't happen to you
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anybody who condones somebody having something stolen or takes the P ain't worth jack
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Hi Nigel,
I have made a note & will keep an eye out as it is near my manor of Kingston.
Kevin WINDOLENE
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Dear All,
Just to let you know my mate had his van stolen today from Hayes, Middlesex, London at 2.45pm with a Volvo car following it. It was non sign written with a reach and wash system fitted and a double a frame ladder on the roof.
The van is a white Peugeot Partner reg KL53YZB.
If you see it etc please let me know.
Many thanks,
Nigel
I'm down by Gatwick so not particularly local. Thanks for making us aware. I will note the number.
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Dear All,
Just to let you know my mate had his van stolen today from Hayes, Middlesex, London at 2.45pm with a Volvo car following it. It was non sign written with a reach and wash system fitted and a double a frame ladder on the roof.
The van is a white Peugeot Partner reg KL53YZB.
If you see it etc please let me know.
Many thanks,
Nigel
How were they able to steal it?
Surely it had an immobiliser?
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thanks for the van but the system is not the best mite have to sell it.... :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
You are an absolute TOSSER
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Sorry to hear that, that is a nightmare !
A lot of stolen cars/vans are moved along the motorway, and the police camera's that go off when they automatically record a stolen plate are pretty good, my neighbour got his motor home nicked and they picked it up 80 miles away on the motorway, I hope they get yours back safe and sound.
If not, I hope the insurance covers/pays for everything soon, good luck.
Did you have anything else in the van like sat nav etc ?
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Sorry to hear that mate, hope it works out.
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im around the hayes area i'll keep a look out though doubt it will be in the area now
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sorry to hear that mate, have made a note of the plate and will jeep it in my van and keep an eye out for you.
had a similar situation just before Easter while I was working at the back of a house and 2 scumbags tried to have mine away. thankfully the lady who's house I was cleaning ran out and told me and I managed to get them and lets just say administer some good old scouse medicine to both of them.
and would you believe it it was me who the police had a real go at for taking matters into my own hands.
I nearly lose my van to 2 scumbags and its me who's told he may be nicked for assault and battery
and these wasn't kids they were grown men, I had to go he police station the following thankfully to be told no charges were being brought, but I told the police that if the same thing happened tomorrow I would do exactly the same thing over again regardless of what would happen.
the one thing is those 2 scumbags will think twice if they see my van parked up again.
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So in answer to the immobiliser question ..... ?
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sorry to hear that mate, have made a note of the plate and will jeep it in my van and keep an eye out for you.
had a similar situation just before Easter while I was working at the back of a house and 2 scumbags tried to have mine away. thankfully the lady who's house I was cleaning ran out and told me and I managed to get them and lets just say administer some good old scouse medicine to both of them.
and would you believe it it was me who the police had a real go at for taking matters into my own hands.
I nearly lose my van to 2 scumbags and its me who's told he may be nicked for assault and battery
and these wasn't kids they were grown men, I had to go he police station the following thankfully to be told no charges were being brought, but I told the police that if the same thing happened tomorrow I would do exactly the same thing over again regardless of what would happen.
the one thing is those 2 scumbags will think twice if they see my van parked up again.
dont blame you mate i would have done the same, if they had of pressed charges then i would of gone to the papers with the story im sure the public support would of been on your side.
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thanks for the van but the system is not the best mite have to sell it.... :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
total dick head springs to mind,,oh well the world always has them and uve joined them..
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sorry to hear that mate, have made a note of the plate and will jeep it in my van and keep an eye out for you.
had a similar situation just before Easter while I was working at the back of a house and 2 scumbags tried to have mine away. thankfully the lady who's house I was cleaning ran out and told me and I managed to get them and lets just say administer some good old scouse medicine to both of them.
and would you believe it it was me who the police had a real go at for taking matters into my own hands.
I nearly lose my van to 2 scumbags and its me who's told he may be nicked for assault and battery
and these wasn't kids they were grown men, I had to go he police station the following thankfully to be told no charges were being brought, but I told the police that if the same thing happened tomorrow I would do exactly the same thing over again regardless of what would happen.
the one thing is those 2 scumbags will think twice if they see my van parked up again.
dont blame you mate i would have done the same, if they had of pressed charges then i would of gone to the papers with the story im sure the public support would of been on your side.
the thing was after I gave it to the pair of them I said sorry to the lady who's house I was cleaning as she had to witness it all, thats ok she said as she knew one of them and he had been caught breaking into her friends house, how she recconised him was that she went to court with her friend and all he got was 250 hours community service and she said after he had broken into her friends house it looked like a bomb had hit it.
she even had a right go at the copper for giving me a hard time saying the B******d deserved everything he got for breaking into her friends house and getting off in court with just 250 hours comm service.
she really spoke out for me
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Very sorry to hear that mate.
Was the system insured? (Did you get a courtesy vehicle?) so you can still continue to work?
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not funny at all. too much of it going on. we have a few people who live in houses with wheels here and if you have a transit then you might as well deliver it to them as it saves time.
when mine was nicked, i woke up to find it gone and due to a few money issues at the time i was then unemployed.
i had just split with my ex and had very little cash left. enough for a van but none left for equipment. its a shock to realise your livelyhood has been stolen. there has been some systems on ebay that the seller dont seem to know much about what they are selling, very fishy
hope you sort it out mate
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Still no reply to the immobiliser question!
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Still no reply to the immobiliser question!
They must have got the keys...........
Very common now that burgalrys are mostlyfor car keys. They either buy a cat d at a salvage auction then instead of repairing it itts cheaper to steal another and swap VIN plates and number plates
Other thing they do is just swap the plates and send them abroad - Cyprus is popular full of petrol heads with about five cars per household plus they drive on the right hand side of the road so the steering wheel is in the right place
Hope you find it but dont think after this long there is much chance
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Still no reply to the immobiliser question!
They must have got the keys...........
Very common now that burgalrys are mostlyfor car keys. They either buy a cat d at a salvage auction then instead of repairing it itts cheaper to steal another and swap VIN plates and number plates
Other thing they do is just swap the plates and send them abroad - Cyprus is popular full of petrol heads with about five cars per household plus they drive on the right hand side of the road so the steering wheel is in the right place
Hope you find it but dont think after this long there is much chance
I guessed they took the keyds too, but in the middle of the day?
I am going to look into tracking systems, and their costs.
Has anyone here got a tracker installed, or one they could recommend?
With expensive kit in vans nowadays, this is an area to be explored IMO.
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I heard it might be worth putting a mobile phone hidden in the van somewhere so it can be traced.
I think you need to keep the battery topped up, of course, and it needs to be traced soon after being nicked before the battery dies, but most last a few days of not being charged.
Worth thinking about. Hide it under the bulkhead/dash, inside a plastic box hidden underneath.
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http://www.mynewcheap.co.uk/products/gps-navigation/vehicle-tracking/
suprised me at how cheap they are to be honest probably get one myself
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Still no reply to the immobiliser question!
They must have got the keys...........
Very common now that burgalrys are mostlyfor car keys. They either buy a cat d at a salvage auction then instead of repairing it itts cheaper to steal another and swap VIN plates and number plates
Other thing they do is just swap the plates and send them abroad - Cyprus is popular full of petrol heads with about five cars per household plus they drive on the right hand side of the road so the steering wheel is in the right place
Hope you find it but dont think after this long there is much chance
I guessed they took the keyds too, but in the middle of the day?
I am going to look into tracking systems, and their costs.
Has anyone here got a tracker installed, or one they could recommend?
With expensive kit in vans nowadays, this is an area to be explored IMO.
I would recommend Tracker Horizon suitable for commercial vehicles, operates with both VHF and GPS tracking systems. Installation and first year subscription £560, every year after £130.
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Tracker Horizon appears tp have some special offers.
http://www.vehtech.co.uk/tracking.html?gclid=CI_Hp-v6vJwCFU0A4wod9k1knQ
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Typical, got mine six months ago, although this new price doesn't include the first year subscription (still cheaper now though).
I would take the precaution though of checking with Tracker themselves about the status of this supplier.
The advantage with the Tracker is that you get the VHF tracking from the Police unlike all the rest.
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ITS CALLED
too much of this going on lately
what i would like to know is how are they stealing stuff when most things now have an immobiliser as standard
i hope your mates insurance pays out and he gets sorted soon
thanks for the van but the system is not the best mite have to sell it.... :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
im hoping that this is an attempt at poor humor
imagine if it happened to you
i would love to see the replys you get next time you are loking for help
[/quote its called a joke ya clown get a grip
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SFWC.......
oh im sorry i didnt realise you really meant it as a joke i can just see the guy who has had his livelyhood ruined laughing his head in fits of happy tears at your humor
dont give up your dayjob ...... buth then again if your as crap at that as comedy your screwed ;D ;D
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I would take the precaution though of checking with Tracker themselves about the status of this supplier.
The advantage with the Tracker is that you get the VHF tracking from the Police unlike all the rest.
OK I will ring them and post here their response.
Thanks for advising about the police only tracking this make of tracker, I had (wrongly) assumed they traced them all when active.
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I use 2 clever electronic cut out switches in my van. One is in the front cab somewhere hidden and the other is in the back very well hidden and under lock and key.
This was fitted my an auto electrician. There has been attempts on his systems in the past but non of the vehicles he has fitted this to have ever been stolen.
I know what the cynics are going to say "to much of a chew on" but it works very well and cant be bypassed unless you can programme the EMU. Trackers are very good but a thief could have the van stripped in half an hour. Best thing is to stop them from knicking it in the first place.
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Sorry to hear your troubles-am not far from you in Harefield, so have noted reg no. and will keep a close eye out.
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my van was being sized up by gypos today.
parked outside customers, and offloading hose etc, and saw them drive up the close, thought to myself "some poor so and so's in for bein ripped off!", went round to the back, and heard the deisel clatter of a van...so popped out as if to get something from the van, and sure enough, he was parked behind me, on an empty street, with his mate in the passenger seat, facing my van. made sure they knew i had seen them, and hung around van texting father in law who was in the area...after about 5 minutes, they left.
customer had seen all this, and mentioned that some gypos had stolen her trailer tent a few weeks earlier, and that she would watch the van while i worked out of sight round the back.
all was well anyway...
until i went to canvas a close a few streets down, and they reappeared!!! drove past the close, and came back, and parked at the end of the close just watching it, so i sat on a wall and watched them back...again about 5 mins, and they went.
be careful out there guys, thats all i am saying, this may have been all very innocent and me being paranoid, however, i doubt it, as they are renowned in the area for it...next time i may not be so lucky.
without my van, i am stuffed, and i really feel for anyone who loses their livliehood.
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Concept,
A warning everyone should heed I think!
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Sorry to hear about the van, the van wont be seen again but what system was in the van? as i'm sure this will come up for sale and i will keep an eye out as iam on ebay and other forums quite a bit.
Do you have any pic's of the system?
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you should always have your system insured.
always always always
after all you cant earn money without it.
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you should always have your system insured.
always always always
after all you cant earn money without it.
Exactly!
Alexander Swann insure Ionocs kit oif that is what you have, and provide a 'hot standby' van in case of accident or theft.
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Really sorry to hear this mate i have noted the number and will keep an eye out.
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Exactly!
Alexander Swann insure Ionocs kit oif that is what you have, and provide a 'hot standby' van in case of accident or theft.
I know! I have this policy and for £52 or whatever it cost its peace of mind to know I'll be provided with a van AND SYSTEM if mine is stolen or smashed up in an accident.
I couldnt afford to not earn money just cos some fool crashes into me or worse, like this poor bloke it was stolen.
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I notice the question regarding how the van was stolen is still unanswered, although we have speculated they got the keys.
If they did obtain the keys, I wonder how that occurred, and would like the thread originator to explain the circumstances, in case there is a lesson for us all.
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There is a clause in the Ionics 'hot standby' insurance policy that says that if they are unable to provide the stanby due to non availability, they will refund the premium!
In that event, that would not be adequate compensation at all!
let's just hope it's never required!
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I notice the question regarding how the van was stolen is still unanswered, although we have speculated they got the keys.
If they did obtain the keys, I wonder how that occurred, and would like the thread originator to explain the circumstances, in case there is a lesson for us all.
NB
There is a clause in the Ionics 'hot standby' insurance policy that says that if they are unable to provide the stanby due to non availability, they will refund the premium!
In that event, that would not be adequate compensation at all!
let's just hope it's never required!
Refunding the premium would indeed be totally inadequate. Anyone buying that policy would want access to a van - not their money refunded.
I don't have such a policy myself. I suppose I would rough it for a while with trolley, backpack, barrels and a rented van. Not pleasant but at least I would earn something.
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I notice the question regarding how the van was stolen is still unanswered, although we have speculated they got the keys.
If they did obtain the keys, I wonder how that occurred, and would like the thread originator to explain the circumstances, in case there is a lesson for us all.
NB
There is a clause in the Ionics 'hot standby' insurance policy that says that if they are unable to provide the stanby due to non availability, they will refund the premium!
In that event, that would not be adequate compensation at all!
let's just hope it's never required!
Refunding the premium would indeed be totally inadequate. Anyone buying that policy would want access to a van - not their money refunded.
I don't have such a policy myself. I suppose I would rough it for a while with trolley, backpack, barrels and a rented van. Not pleasant but at least I would earn something.
It certainly would!
Basically what they are saying is if we cannot supply you with the replacement van and system, we will repay you £42!
This is not good enough, IMO, as they are not providing the business continuity cover that you pay the premium for.
However, they did assure me the situation has never arisen, but with more Ionics systems being sold, the possibility must be increasing in my opinion.
They did say that Ionics have a similar van, and they think a loan could be arranged if rthey equired, so I think you have to take the policy and hope it's never required.
Short term you could inform customers, and like you rightly say, buy water and use trolleys if needs be.
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I notice the question regarding how the van was stolen is still unanswered, although we have speculated they got the keys.
If they did obtain the keys, I wonder how that occurred, and would like the thread originator to explain the circumstances, in case there is a lesson for us all.
NB
There is a clause in the Ionics 'hot standby' insurance policy that says that if they are unable to provide the stanby due to non availability, they will refund the premium!
In that event, that would not be adequate compensation at all!
let's just hope it's never required!
Refunding the premium would indeed be totally inadequate. Anyone buying that policy would want access to a van - not their money refunded.
I don't have such a policy myself. I suppose I would rough it for a while with trolley, backpack, barrels and a rented van. Not pleasant but at least I would earn something.
It certainly would!
Basically what they are saying is if we cannot supply you with the replacement van and system, we will repay you £42!
This is not good enough, IMO, as they are not providing the business continuity cover that you pay the premium for.
However, they did assure me the situation has never arisen, but with more Ionics systems being sold, the possibility must be increasing in my opinion.
They did say that Ionics have a similar van, and they think a loan could be arranged if rthey equired, so I think you have to take the policy and hope it's never required.
Short term you could inform customers, and like you rightly say, buy water and use trolleys if needs be.
Where do you get the £42 figure from? I assumed the refund offer was for the entire premium for the year. If they are doing their policies at £42 a year then maybe I will get one after all ;D
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Where do you get the £42 figure from? I assumed the refund offer was for the entire premium for the year. If they are doing their policies at £42 a year then maybe I will get one after all
Thats what the courtesy van policy costs for the year. I thought it was £52 but I'm probably mistaken, it was a few months ago I took the policy. £52 (or £42) for the cover of a courtesy vehicle is a bargain IMO.
Yes theres the issue that if someone else has it that week they will refund the money instead, but since the option is that or nothing, I still think its worthwhile. After all if you didnt have the policy then you'd not get a courtesy van anyway, so you've lost nothing.
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I notice the question regarding how the van was stolen is still unanswered, although we have speculated they got the keys.
If they did obtain the keys, I wonder how that occurred, and would like the thread originator to explain the circumstances, in case there is a lesson for us all.
NB
There is a clause in the Ionics 'hot standby' insurance policy that says that if they are unable to provide the stanby due to non availability, they will refund the premium!
In that event, that would not be adequate compensation at all!
let's just hope it's never required!
Refunding the premium would indeed be totally inadequate. Anyone buying that policy would want access to a van - not their money refunded.
I don't have such a policy myself. I suppose I would rough it for a while with trolley, backpack, barrels and a rented van. Not pleasant but at least I would earn something.
Where do you get the £42 figure from? I assumed the refund offer was for the entire premium for the year. If they are doing their policies at £42 a year then maybe I will get one after all ;D
The cover for the 'hot standby' van costs £42 per annum, so it's that cover they will be refunding, in my view, not the entire policy.
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Yes theres the issue that if someone else has it that week they will refund the money instead, but since the option is that or nothing, I still think its worthwhile. After all if you didnt have the policy then you'd not get a courtesy van anyway, so you've lost nothing.
Exactly, and they did mention Ionics having a similar van and they would try and secure that if they needed two.
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hey hi AIMIN , are you out on the streets yet ???
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hey hi AIMIN , are you out on the streets yet ???
No, let down on the leaflets, a week on Monday is the scheduled start date now.