Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Platinum NW on August 22, 2009, 12:29:40 am
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The final rounds are now for sale. They are cleaned using traditional methods . The three rounds i kept for myself are up for sale due to progression in my other business
Three Fornightly rounds worked traditionally with a combined turnover of £1518per month including a monthly round with a turnover of £140 so far with oppurtunity to purchase extra £700 of work on this estate............. Making a combined total of income £2200 per month
All work is compact with good prices in an area covered by window cleaners so work is hard to come by. Establsihed for nearly 7 years there are good loyal customers who are good payers using cash or cheque. Houses mainly consist of semi detached houses located within a 2 mile radius. Great oppurtunity for start up cleaners to aquire an established round to build upon.
Asking Price £13000 ono
Email for more details. If interested i will introduce new buyer to customers and assist were possible in handover
dmj.guest@hotmail.co.uk
Location: St Helens, Merseyside
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i dont understand platinum- only the other week you were saying you were just about to start window cleaning and were going canvassing for the very first time ???
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i dont understand platinum- only the other week you were saying you were just about to start window cleaning and were going canvassing for the very first time ???
No i was going canvassing to build the company up again however my other business venture is moving alot quicker than expected and i dont have the time to keep the work maintained...........
recently i sold my other window cleaning rounds for £30000 but i kept these rounds for myself but im struggling at the minute with all the meetings so they are up for sale
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ah ,ok no problem- good luck with the building trade ;)
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So you are looking for 10 x the monthly turnover and have admitted that the round is not being maintained.....
I hope you dont try to sell houses that haven't been finished... ;D
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were are these rounds ?
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were are these rounds ?
hey MICK P are u out on the streets yet ?
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So you are looking for 10 x the monthly turnover and have admitted that the round is not being maintained.....
I hope you dont try to sell houses that haven't been finished... ;D
I've seen plenty of houses for sale that haven't even been started. ;D
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were are these rounds ?
hey MICK P are u out on the streets yet ?
no im still working hard as a decorater but works really slowing down now and hopefully i,ll soon be a window cleaner meanwhile practising on my windows :)
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The rounds are in st helens in merseyside......
They are being maintained as usual but my schedule is getting busier and busier so its getting harder as i fit meetings around the work as i have one week of work then im free the next but my meetings are getting more frequent and lasting alot longer then previous months
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ah ,ok no problem- good luck with the building trade ;)
Thanks things are looking good so far.....
Good luck with your business im still going to keep in touch on here and maybe put some contract leads on here for any commercial building that we build or housing estates so you guys can have a heads up on new opportunities
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The rounds are in st helens in merseyside......
They are being maintained as usual but my schedule is getting busier and busier so its getting harder as i fit meetings around the work as i have one week of work then im free the next but my meetings are getting more frequent and lasting alot longer then previous months
to far out for me mate good luck with sale and your other venture
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likewise mike
Good luck
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I'm from St.Helens, you rang me last week or so, I'm happy building my own round at the moment doing ok it's getting there slowly. I'm finding a lot of people not happy with past cleaners or they aren't turning up, so gradually building customers.
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I'm from St.Helens, you rang me last week or so, I'm happy building my own round at the moment doing ok it's getting there slowly. I'm finding a lot of people not happy with past cleaners or they aren't turning up, so gradually building customers.
No problem, Good luck mate i remember our conversation you mentioned you detailed cars - If you want any advice or help or are interested in purchasing work give me a call
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I'm finding a lot of people not happy with past cleaners or they aren't turning up, so gradually building customers.
Theres alot of this up eccleston and toll bar.........
Then they will come back 6 months later telling you its thier rounds lol i had that once so just told him to f**k off and that was that
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If your interested in expanding fast theres £2200 of work up my way
Take it easy
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::) totaly lost now
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lol
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MY WORK PLUS RONNIES £700 IF HE DECIDES TO SELL...............
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??? ??? ??? ???
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All interest and offers for all my work have come from outside this forum
Wheres all the businessmen........ Is there any on here
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All interest and offers for all my work have come from outside this forum
Wheres all the businessmen........ Is there any on here
No disrespect as i dont personally know you but after reading your posts since you joined i am very confused by you as you started by selling your work, then rented the round, then you wanted to know about pricing and canvassing, then you where building a construction business so too busy to do windows, then you wanted to buy some work to rent to the bloke yud previously rented your other stuff too, then you wanted a short wheel base transit connect and wanted to know about wfp and wanted to continue in the trade of cleaning windows, now all of a sudden youve got more work to sell, so based on all the posts youve even written on as a business man as you put it I wouldnt be interested in the round your selling if i was near by and maybe this is the view of others local to you from this forum so maybe thats why the interest youve had is off the forum. Any way good luck with the selling of your work and construction company.
Chris
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All interest and offers for all my work have come from outside this forum
Wheres all the businessmen........ Is there any on here
No disrespect as i dont personally know you but after reading your posts since you joined i am very confused by you as you started by selling your work, then rented the round, then you wanted to know about pricing and canvassing, then you where building a construction business so too busy to do windows, then you wanted to buy some work to rent to the bloke yud previously rented your other stuff too, then you wanted a short wheel base transit connect and wanted to know about wfp and wanted to continue in the trade of cleaning windows, now all of a sudden youve got more work to sell, so based on all the posts youve even written on as a business man as you put it I wouldnt be interested in the round your selling if i was near by and maybe this is the view of others local to you from this forum so maybe thats why the interest youve had is off the forum. Any way good luck with the selling of your work and construction company.
Chris
he sounds like Del Boy ;D
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cheers chris
I understand what you mean about me being confusing but the position i was in was that i thought that i could manage a wc round and my construction business but iv found that meeting take up alot more time than i thought and if i was employing 2 lads to work id need to canvass hard like i used to but when i get home iv got work to do-more research or adjustments to business plan and cashflow forecasts you wouldnt believe how much redtape is involved in even before applying for work so i thought i could do both and have found out i cant so i either give up the construction or the windows
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lmao...........
I did want to do both but the advice i got was keep it simple so thats the plan for now instead of juggling with everything
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You always find time to log on here platinum >:( >:( >:( >:( no matter how busy you tell us you are ;D ;D ;D
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you try spending 6-8 hours stuck on a phone or laptop answering emails and calls....
I like going to the meetings just to get out :D
Iv got two viewers who have to wait till next wednesday to have a look at them
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simon123?
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thing is plat me old fruit ,theres a lotof chancers around these days trying to sell hot air . whats the name of the fellah who is actually cleaning these windows at the minute ?? cant he buy it all off you?
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I clean them with my brother in law to keep them maintained till a buyer is found - The customers know what day we come and what day we collect so money is always waiting with no problems for collecting as everyone but 1-2 are paid fully at the end of each week...Plus if we are late i get told what day i was expected which is normally down to the weather which they understand when explained.
Iv work this for 5 years some of the work my brother had but i started working it when i left school - Regards brother in law buying the work he hasnt got the cash or a credit history to lend so much money. Hes got two young kids and hes ment to be getting married next year so i think all his moneys going on the wedding - Like i said im in no rush to sell but i dont want any of the work getting neglected due to me being busy - Until then i have to dodge the weather and try and get in done plus all work is cleaned under platinum contracts Nw (North West) Even thought is got a reputable name across the north west for cleaning care homes and builders cleans the name isnt for sale
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Maybe your brother-in-law could pay you for the rounds on monthly terms.
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hes already asked me about this but i want the money now just so i have a good cashflow in the business...
A guy offered me £13000 yesturday which i said i would accept as long as i could work with him on the first clean so i knew he would do a good job and that he met the customers and i could introduce them so the handover can go smoothly and the customers knew who he was but he phoned today saying he cant get up to view the work till next week which suits me great but hes saying the money might be a problem to get hold of. Told him i wont take installments only cash. Now hes asking me if he can rent it because the cash might be tough to get hold of - Complete waste of time
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Anyone buying the work id recommend they employ my brother in law as the customers know him- he knows the work and how its laid out plus hes an excellent grafter and does the work to a very high standard i know i trained him myself
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I clean them with my brother in law to keep them maintained till a buyer is found - The customers know what day we come and what day we collect so money is always waiting with no problems for collecting as everyone but 1-2 are paid fully at the end of each week...Plus if we are late i get told what day i was expected which is normally down to the weather which they understand when explained.
Iv work this for 5 years some of the work my brother had but i started working it when i left school - Regards brother in law buying the work he hasnt got the cash or a credit history to lend so much money. Hes got two young kids and hes ment to be getting married next year so i think all his moneys going on the wedding - Like i said im in no rush to sell but i dont want any of the work getting neglected due to me being busy - Until then i have to dodge the weather and try and get in done plus all work is cleaned under platinum contracts Nw (North West) Even thought is got a reputable name across the north west for cleaning care homes and builders cleans the name isnt for sale
Your in no rush so let your bro in law pay instalements, let him build a good future for your nices/nephews.
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i need to build a good future for me before i start being charitable ;D
Im very keen to help some charities tho especially ones for cancer and alzhiemers which i will be training for around january so i can do a sponsored cycle across country which im sure everyone will support
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Anyone brave enough to join me ?
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i need to build a good future for me before i start being charitable ;D
Im very keen to help some charities tho especially ones for cancer and alzhiemers which i will be training for around january so i can do a sponsored cycle across country which im sure everyone will support
Which way across country?? Lands end john ogroats or coast to coast ie st bees to robin hoods bay or similar west to east ?
Im doing st bees to robin hoods off road in june next year was supposed to do it this year but lad i was going with backed out and didnt fancy a solo trip :) was gonna be 5 days 210 miles through lakes, dales and north york moors, its a toughy though lol
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I've just had a look at your post timings, you can't be that busy Platinum.
??? You couldn't make it up, could you ???
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I've just had a look at your post timings, you can't be that busy Platinum.
??? You couldn't make it up, could you ???
He sure as damm is though!
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i need to build a good future for me before i start being charitable ;D
Once i get stuck into training i get stuck in - If it rips my muscles off its for a good cause and im sure these people and their families will have gone through more pain than that so no question i will do it
Which way across country?? Lands end john ogroats or coast to coast ie st bees to robin hoods bay or similar west to east ?
Im doing st bees to robin hoods off road in june next year was supposed to do it this year but lad i was going with backed out and didnt fancy a solo trip :) was gonna be 5 days 210 miles through lakes, dales and north york moors, its a toughy though lol
Im very keen to help some charities tho especially ones for cancer and alzhiemers which i will be training for around january so i can do a sponsored cycle across country which im sure everyone will support
Id like to start off in the lakes and finish at lands end - Not sorted a root out yet though - Il see about doing that with you bet theres some great views along the way
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I've just had a look at your post timings, you can't be that busy Platinum.
??? You couldn't make it up, could you ???
Have you noticed that the times are around 9am or before as offices arnt open before 9am - Im up at 6 every morning organising the day. Then all my posts are arounds 10pm onwards when i start to relax - any posts during the day is when im having dinner or i log on for half an hour for a break thats when im in my office some days im out meeting people and cleaning my rounds
Just keep wishing you was so busy ...............
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;D Price reduced to £13000 ono ;D
All offers have been in this region but cash has been hard to squeeze out the banks so im looking for a quick sale
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This Platinum company contradicts themselves so much on their posts!!!! Do they really think we are that stupid to believe they have a 'Construction Company',whatever, all he is trying to do is to get on with people in a BID to sell his round, which is very poorly priced houses!!! I know a few lads doing a very big round in St. Helens and they know this company and they wouldn't go near it!!
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Some strange people end up on here, why us? Why do people think we are all thick wannabe business owners?
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Err, why don't you contact the guys who have already offered you £13000 and tell them they can have it ???
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i need to build a good future for me before i start being charitable ;D
Once i get stuck into training i get stuck in - If it rips my muscles off its for a good cause and im sure these people and their families will have gone through more pain than that so no question i will do it
Which way across country?? Lands end john ogroats or coast to coast ie st bees to robin hoods bay or similar west to east ?
Im doing st bees to robin hoods off road in june next year was supposed to do it this year but lad i was going with backed out and didnt fancy a solo trip :) was gonna be 5 days 210 miles through lakes, dales and north york moors, its a toughy though lol
Im very keen to help some charities tho especially ones for cancer and alzhiemers which i will be training for around january so i can do a sponsored cycle across country which im sure everyone will support
Id like to start off in the lakes and finish at lands end - Not sorted a root out yet though - Il see about doing that with you bet theres some great views along the way
Yep :)
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i want £15000 for some decent cashflow for the construction business - Jobs we are going for are valued between 500k - 3m so cashflow is vital for getting a good overdraft from the banks especially in the current climate
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This Platinum company contradicts themselves so much on their posts!!!! Do they really think we are that stupid to believe they have a 'Construction Company',whatever, all he is trying to do is to get on with people in a BID to sell his round, which is very poorly priced houses!!! I know a few lads doing a very big round in St. Helens and they know this company and they wouldn't go near it!!
Id like to know who this company is as we are known across st helens and have a very good reputation. Whoever this company is must be peed off because we have taken work off them etc....
We dont have much competition as we provide work to very high standards
Danny
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i want £15000 for some decent cashflow for the construction business - Jobs we are going for are valued between 500k - 3m so cashflow is vital for getting a good overdraft from the banks especially in the current climate
Think your flogging a dead horse here mate. Looks like you're losing any cred you had. By the way, 15000 would be a lump sum I asume. whould a bank be impressed with that if you are after 500k to 3 mil?
Perhaps it's the sums you band about on here, but you seem to come across as a bit of a bragger. Can't blaim us "humble shiners" for thinking you are full of it.
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ive got the £30000 already from the sale of my round 2 months ago plus £15000 - if we risk our own money banks are more likely to bk us - giving us more credability - End of the day we will be lending against a signed commercial contract that shows we have the contract and a guarenteed turnover so if we risk our own money we are in the banks good books until we can self fund projects
Shows the limited business knowledge you have
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Yes it does, I'm a shiner, not blowing my own trumpet like you. Still think what I think though. Maybe if you stopped trying to impress, you wouldn't get so much stick. Knock yaself out Bill Gates
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im not showing off im standing my corner against your critisism.
Just because i know my business doesnt mean im bill gates it means i do my homework and am 1 step ahead of other business making me more competitive and in a position to adapt to change and makes more oppurtunities
If you know your market you are on top so you can lead it instead of being led by it ;D
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Yeah great, you're top notch, the big cheese, head honcho, big guy on the street etc etc.Does anyone else tell you that, or will you keep telling us? There is nothing wrong with ambition, if you get where you want to go, then fine. Now why not go and do it and let us know how you get on, instead of telling us what you are going to do, in other words, don't tell us, show us. I'll be the first one to send you a beer coupon.
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I havent said that but thanks ;D
You make me feel better lol
Thanks dad
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I've not been in UK since the last 19 years, except with my wife. No way can I be your father, disappointing as this would be for you, but hey, we can't all be perfect 8)
I'm what you might call "Marmite", you like me or you don't. I am a little short fused and come over agressive and nasty, to some on here. It's just that the way I post stuff gets peoples backs up too. You just seem better at doing that than me.
Whatever, time to show now what you're made of. All the best.
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This is business its not personal. I never get emotionally attached in business which is a rule. Many people have mixed views and many and ignorent and nieve but dont take anything on here personally. Business for me is always fun so if you come over aggressive or not i dont care your in business so youve got my respect regardless of how much stick you give this is just a laugh. We cant improve ourselves as people without critisism and finding our weaknesses which is great lol
Good luck anyway
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Cozy,
How did you get into window cleaning in germany mate?
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Posted it twice mate, short version, a mate had a round over here and took me with him. Saw what he earned and went right into it. Was truck driving before, and was on good money but that was all I had to see. Never regreted it. Gone into carpets and upholstery too now. Sometimes it's twice as good money as WCing.
The "how did you end up in WCing" will be along again soon lol. I'll amaze you all with my "ripping yarn" then lol. ;D
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So, platinum how easy was it to jump from windowcleaner to construction industry director? Is there much involved like training or could I jump in as well. I could put my house up for finance. Sounds really easy what do you think?
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if ur being serious you need to know the market - cover the start up costs ie Iso Standardised then the health and safety policies then office equipment then any further money you borrow against the contracts sounds easy but it aint - iv got a business partner whos been in the game for 15 years which is invaluable
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Ah right, so you don't need to know anything about construction then. I might give it a go.
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Ewan doesnt post much these days??
Maybe hes moved too north west?
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You need to know the trades but like all business i was looking at the key is to harness the workforces skills and make them count - People management and deligation thats all you need. Duncan Bannatyne had care homes but he wasnt a nurse or care worker
Any business is a business at the end of the day as long as the numbers add up and you make a profit and enjoy the job its successful
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So do you employ staff?
My brother - in - law is a long standing builder. I'm sure if he and I pooled our finances we could be off to a flying start.
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So do you employ staff?
My brother - in - law is a long standing builder. I'm sure if he and I pooled our finances we could be off to a flying start.
And I bet you could still do your window cleaning round, go too meetings, canvass, and also post on here during the day too. Go for it mate I mean the building industry isnt suffering during these financial times, and I bet youll be the biggest construction company with a awesome name for itself within 12 Months, I mean those companys with 60 years experience will be cacking themselves ;D
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In house joiners -
Other work like brickworks
groundworks
M&E
piling
landscaping
roofing
plumbers
plasterers
painters
structural engineers
Quantity surveyors
architects
design managers
cdm co-ordinators
land surveyors
construction managers
site managers
etc.... they are all subcontracted.
We are lucky we have some good contacts but we are aiming to be competing with the like of willmott dixon and Interserve by late 2010.
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We are also developing land with a few sites being viewed next month...
We own 6acres of greenbelt already but the design stage wont be in progress until november
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So do you employ staff?
My brother - in - law is a long standing builder. I'm sure if he and I pooled our finances we could be off to a flying start.
And I bet you could still do your window cleaning round, go too meetings, canvass, and also post on here during the day too. Go for it mate I mean the building industry isnt suffering during these financial times, and I bet youll be the biggest construction company with a awesome name for itself within 12 Months, I mean those companys with 60 years experience will be cacking themselves ;D
I know great aint it lol ;D
Shame not everyone has contacts they can bribe for jobs these day
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Personally i think your just a construction employe and when delivering the tea to your boss you hear his conversation and report back here, then off you trott on a saturday doing your windows, Ive read a lot of b******s posted on this forum by people but your storys just get worse and worse, I can only tell a person from what they write on here but you come across as the biggets joke on here. :-*
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So do you employ staff?
My brother - in - law is a long standing builder. I'm sure if he and I pooled our finances we could be off to a flying start.
And I bet you could still do your window cleaning round, go too meetings, canvass, and also post on here during the day too. Go for it mate I mean the building industry isnt suffering during these financial times, and I bet youll be the biggest construction company with a awesome name for itself within 12 Months, I mean those companys with 60 years experience will be cacking themselves ;D
I know great aint it lol ;D
Shame not everyone has contacts they can bribe for jobs these day
Have you lost the plot?
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yeah lol Funny thats what my mum said lol
We will be competing on tenders not turnover ...
These companies have borrowed money to keep themselves afloat in the recession so there overheads are higher so there tender prices are high too.
Our overheads are low so we can compete on these jobs just as easily with lower tender prices. The major contractors are too big for us to compete on turnover for the next 20years or so lmao
My business partner has done this work for 15 years working on jobs valued over 34m so with that experience already on board he has brought all his contacts etc so filling these roles with the cream of the crop who have been made redundant will put our company even though new to the market very experienced.
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Personally i think your just a construction employe and when delivering the tea to your boss you hear his conversation and report back here, then off you trott on a saturday doing your windows, Ive read a lot of b******s posted on this forum by people but your storys just get worse and worse, I can only tell a person from what they write on here but you come across as the biggets joke on here. :-*
Not another fool...Getting bored of these
Ive never had any job apart from working for my brother when i left school
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We would be more interested in Brownfield sites in our area because Greenbelt have no immediate plans in our foreseeable future. We allready have an eye on some very lucrative areas in our region. Early days but I'm sure my brother-in-law and I could forge a partership between us. He's 64 and has a wealth of local knowledge. I'm wondering if we would need a proper office or could we work from his spare room?
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This is also why im selling - One day il be in the office or in meetings then next il be freezing my arse off hanging off a ladder dodging the rain. Im in business because its fun thats it. Ive found another business i can build and one with alot of potential as we climb out of the recession so im going for it
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We only own the land through family... We have outlining permission but greenbelt needs alot of applications for planning. As land is tight now in inner cities greenbelt is being built on more often. Best to but land on the outskirts as towns expand out.
Offices- Im working out of my office at home at the minute but once we are going we are using offices at the local chamber of commerce which have all the facilities for £110 a month. They put the price up steadily for 2 years then kick you out ...
If your just developing property it doesnt matter ...
If your working for blue chip clients get an office to present a proffessional image
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If your working for blue chip clients get an office to present a proffessional image
...and make sure you have a spell & grammar checker when you make quotes.
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thanks for the advice
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Sorry mate, u take the biscuit, I can't take you serious.
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Ok i wont lose sleep :P
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Hang on...................You are putting together a multi million pound deal in construction, with blue chip companies and I don't mean Mc Cain chips, and you find yourself in a window cleaning forum.......what's wrong with this picture.......
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Im selling my work here first - Not putting deal together im putting the company together. Jobs are only planned for january onwards. The company structure is large so are the standards we have to meet such as ISO and H&S procedures. The documentation is unbelievable nothing like window cleaning
Out of interest whats your background
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This is pointless....I'm off to bed ::)
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lol too hard ;D