Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Adam Fearnley on August 20, 2009, 07:01:10 pm
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Just wondering why all wands aren't configured with the jets on the inside like a wonder wand? It makes it nigh impossible to overwet the carpet and all the spray is nicely contained. What are the benefits of wands with outside jets?
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Presumably the Wonderwand is considerably more expensive than your average wand? I've just started using a wand (Did use the "Scrubba" until recently).... I'm totally amazed at it's performance and it's the 4 jet from alltec....I'd love to try the Wonderwand as I've heard some good stuff about it!
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Likewise I would like to try a conventional type but only ever used a wonder w. They are about £400 but I've seen most truckmounts using outside jets, so dont know if cost is the reason.
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It's certainly not a cost thing, a lot of truckmounter's use Titanium wands and these cost about £1K all in with a glide etc !. I carry over £2000 worth of wands just on one van and thats not including RX20 & RDM's.
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we don't use wonder wands because they are crap, they don't over-wet the carpet because they have very fine jets which only allow a light wisp of solution to touch the carpet. but with the poor vacuum machines associated with the wonderwand you cant use anything else
i like to use a wand that really flushes the dirt out of the carpet so big jets are needed.
the wonderwand is just a gimmick and not really taken seriously by most carpet cleaners
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And on the back of Mike's advice, I'll stick to what I got ;D ;D ;D
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its called a wonder wand cos its a wonder it even gets the carpet wet. ;D
derek
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I'll stick to my RD I'm bidding for on Ebay :o It gets carpets wet.... just a shame it can't get 'em dry ;D
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although not knocking your opinion mike i disagree i have a 3 jet conventional wand as a spare and a wonder wand i have run them side by side as a compar. both on 400 psi both used more enough exact amount from solution tank . both wands cleaned with same result only dif was the wonder wand left the carpets a lot drier with less drying strokes. so although the name wonder wand makes you think gimmick i dont think it is ps hate the name myself.
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I use internal jets for upholstery as it is nice not to have any over-spray but on a really dirty suite it does take too many passes to get the fabric clean so you have to reduce the suction considerably to get the flushing requires. Like wise with carpets will spray staind and stubborn areas without extracting immediately. Am not going to rush out for a wonder wand.
Peter
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I'll stick to my RD I'm bidding for on Ebay :o It gets carpets wet.... just a shame it can't get 'em dry ;D
HoHo. Very good Colin
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Had a WW and it wasn't good at flushing but did dry the carpet fast as it didn't put enough water down.
Shaun
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The reason it doesn't get the carpet wet is because a lot of the solution is drawn straight up the vacuum slot without ever touching the carpet.
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Mike if you think they are such crap, perhaps you'd like to give me the one that came with
the Powr-flite machine you were buying, as it's obviously no use to you, and a spare wouldn't go amiss.
As to flushing the carpet, CFR do sell different sized jets. Mine came with 2 sizes 01s and 03s.
Shaun i seem to remember your complaint was that it locked onto the carpet, and was difficult to move when
used with a truckmount. And remember it was designed for a vac optimised machine, pulling no more than 200 CFMs.
Judging by the way mine cuts through indian restaurant blacktop, no one will persuade me that they are crap, but
i will concede the name is.
At 500 Psi i can empty the 50 Litre tank in under 20 min's, but more importantly i can recover enough of that to
not bother with drying strokes.
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It a wonderful bit of kit (3jet) I like it :-[
Len
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AJB the ww did lock on and it was a nightmare so I tried less throttle to get less lock but the cleaning or should I say the flushing was pants.
Shaun
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AJB the ww did lock on and it was a nightmare so I tried less throttle to get less lock but the cleaning or should I say the flushing was pants.
Shaun
prob not a wand for trucky but perhaps a good bit a kit for us porty users.
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May be not but if you can imagine what flow rate we are using you'd have thought by reducing the vacuum the flow should be strong enough to rinse the fibres.
I know Mick Gayton doesn't like them and he uses a roller wand instead.
Shaun
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My tank empties that quickly with 01 jets, with 03s you can see the tank level dropping, this
is why i only use the 01s.
If i want more flushing, i increase the pressure, and if needed spray on the forward stroke, you
can get away with that with a WW.
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The good thing about the CFR recyclying system is that whatever wand or psi you use the machine never needs refilling although with the glide wand if the head isnt seated totally against the carpet and psi is to high,you can soak the carpet .I find my conventional 2 jet wand running 200 psi works perfect.With the wonderwand you pull when cleaning ,with the glide you push,which I will never got used to.
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I have used cfr machines for around 6 years or so the tools on the machines are great,i use a rolller wand which i have taken the front roller off so i get close to the edge.Any way, i think the roller and wonder wand are fine with portys.But would not use one on a t/m set up as the vacuum slot is to close,and may not be able to handle a blower vacuum!! also would need the jets changed.
mick
ps never liked the glade wand shaun mate