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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: rl on August 18, 2009, 10:10:00 pm

Title: my tds
Post by: rl on August 18, 2009, 10:10:00 pm
hi, i have a tds of about 57. Have been planning on getting just a Di vessel. If I went for a RO unit, would the RO unit bring my TDS down to 0ppm or woould I still need the DI??
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: vision tech on August 18, 2009, 10:17:18 pm
wish mine was 57,mine is 100, i think even if you have ro system you still need a di vessel to finish of .
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 18, 2009, 10:22:57 pm
cheers I thought I would still need the DI, ye I think i'm lucky with the TDS reading!

Don't suppose anyone knows a super cheap website for DI Vessels, did find one a while ago that was cheaper but can't remember the name of it!
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: pure tech on August 18, 2009, 10:26:30 pm
My tds is around 85ppm and my RO produces 00-001ppm and I have never used resin.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 18, 2009, 10:36:38 pm
thanks. 

now i'm confused  ???  i guess the RO unit will work out cheaper in the long run? I'm on a water meter but I can fill up at my mums so that not a problem. Any advice on what RO unit would be ok? Don't need to be producing loads of water yet so something cheap and cheerful that does the job.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 18, 2009, 10:37:34 pm
also how long does it take to produce say 250ltrs of water using a RO unit?

and how long would a DI unit take to do the same amount?
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: pure tech on August 18, 2009, 10:47:10 pm
Just be aware that  tap water pressure needs to be around 60psi or more for good RO performance.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: jouk45 on August 18, 2009, 10:55:56 pm
you only need a di vessel, that is soft water you have, the resin will last for ages, sames as me
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: vision tech on August 18, 2009, 11:08:00 pm
you only need a di vessel, that is soft water you have, the resin will last for ages, sames as me
 

I think your wrong mate resin will not last for ages, my tds is 100 i have 2 di vessels 11 ltr ones, resin lasted 3 wks, if i could go the ro way i would jump at it.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: jouk45 on August 18, 2009, 11:26:50 pm
no am not wrong, been using it for 6 years now. i think others are mislead into using ro machines when not needed, 57 is low tds, mines lasts for 4 to 5 months,  something is wrong at your end  ::) and i use only 1 17inch by 8 di vessel
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: jouk45 on August 18, 2009, 11:46:05 pm
all i know is by your tds 100ppm and you using 2 linked di vessels and only getting 3 weeks is there is something wrong there, unless you do hundreds of windows everyday of the week, and if that is the case, it does not mean the di is not suitable for someone who may only do 40  houses a day
 
 
 
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rs_cleancare on August 19, 2009, 05:48:53 pm
do any of you know the calculation for tds reading per ltr of resin. This would be able to give excact amount of water you can produce therfore work out cost.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: jouk45 on August 19, 2009, 05:53:20 pm
yes there is, but is the calculation for regenerated or virgin resin, no one tels you that, regenereated you would get a lot less, and that is what most supplies where selling, i now use tulsion only
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: tacky on August 19, 2009, 09:46:03 pm
i have 2 .18 inch di tds comming out of first di 61 going into second di .now comming out of second di 001 i only use about 400 ltrs  per week as im trad n wfp .at moment i have had 7 weeks of water with out changing resin  .tap water 110tds .
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: vision tech on August 19, 2009, 10:23:14 pm
I think the reason my di only lasted 3 wks is because i have just started wfp after being trad for many years,and i am taking more time doing the frames,im using 500 ltrs a day sometimes more. :'(
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 20, 2009, 09:28:47 am
now really confused!  ???

I'm only going to be doing 1 day a week to start with, but obviously intend to get up to 5 days eventually (but intend to take my time as have full time job to get out of!) Really to be honest, at this stage I am looking for the cheapest possible way to get started and once I see that it's going to work i'll invest in better stuff.

So in your opinion whats going to be the cheapest way to get going RO or DI, as long as I get a 000 or 001 reading i'll be happy.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: pure tech on August 20, 2009, 10:09:53 am
If you go  RO check out collinswaterproducts.co.uk, they sell a 300gpd for 129.99.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 20, 2009, 10:17:38 am
cheers for that, seems cheap!
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: Rams75 on August 20, 2009, 10:34:24 am
tacky

ur tds is 61 after the fisrt vessel

what is it out of the tap?
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 20, 2009, 10:42:27 am
does anyone have an idea of how long a 300gpd RO unit will take to produce say 250ltrs of water compared to a DI vessel, are we talking ages and ages or quite quickly. and is there a big difference between the RO and DI

cheers
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: jouk45 on August 20, 2009, 12:31:30 pm
does anyone have an idea of how long a 300gpd RO unit will take to produce say 250ltrs of water compared to a DI vessel, are we talking ages and ages or quite quickly. and is there a big difference between the RO and DI

cheers
rl i already gave you the answer, you only need a di vessel, di is 10 times faster than an ro, your water is soft, i wish a supplier would come on and back me up on this, as i said earlier my tds is the same as yours, and i get months from it, in your case as you are only working a few days, will probibly last 6 months
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 20, 2009, 03:17:05 pm
thanks jouk, when I read your initial reply I was all set on the DI, but then other came on saying RO might be better, Now you've said DI is 10 times faster I think I'll go down that route. Will a 17 x 8 vessel be ok for me? If so any tips on wheres cheapest for the vessel and resin??
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: jouk45 on August 20, 2009, 03:54:46 pm
thanks jouk, when I read your initial reply I was all set on the DI, but then other came on saying RO might be better, Now you've said DI is 10 times faster I think I'll go down that route. Will a 17 x 8 vessel be ok for me? If so any tips on wheres cheapest for the vessel and resin??

 that is the size of di vessel i use, my tds is exactly the same as you although it will drop in wniter, i am buying a bigger one soon  8"x24"  the bigger the longer your resin will last, heres what another supplier has to say,

This is the ideal size DI Vessel if you are filling your tank direct from tap pressure. Many suppliers sell their customers small DI Vessels but fail to advise them that volume versus flow rate is key to resin performance. TDS levels can rise when the flow rate is too fast for the volume of resin. To avoid this happening completely we recommend that you only use a di vessel 11L or above.
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Title: Re: my tds
Post by: tacky on August 20, 2009, 10:07:55 pm
 rams 75 .water out of tap is 100 . it comes out of di its 000.what i forgot to say is is when it came out at 001 .i fitted 2 nd di .then when it came out of 2nd .di  at 001 i empted first di of old resin .filled it up with new resin n put it in front of 2nd di .that is how i got my recent figures .hope u all can understand this .because i just read back what i tyeped n i baffled myself .
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: elite mike on August 20, 2009, 10:09:13 pm
rams 75 .water out of tap is 100 . it comes out of di its 000.what i forgot to say is is when it came out at 001 .i fitted 2 nd di .then when it came out of 2nd .di  at 001 i empted first di of old resin .filled it up with new resin n put it in front of 2nd di .that is how i got my recent figures .hope u all can understand this .because i just read back what i tyeped n i baffled myself .
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Title: Re: my tds
Post by: pure tech on August 21, 2009, 09:51:48 pm
rl,  I was only passing on my experience using a RO.
I can not advise re DI.
My 300gpd RO (no booster pump) produces around 30 litres per hr  at 60-65 tap psi, so that is  around 250 litres over eight hours.  Pure to waste is 1:1
Hope that helps

Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 21, 2009, 09:57:51 pm
hi pure tech, your advice is much appreciated, as I know nothing about this I'm happy that so many people can give me their opinions, still not ordered either the DI or RO!! Got the pole and backpack and no water to clean with, better get it sorted soon!
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: traps7 on August 21, 2009, 09:59:15 pm
Dude speak to June at www.gapswater.co.uk

She knows all you'll need to know and is really friendly and helpful.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: pure tech on August 21, 2009, 10:07:56 pm
No problems rl, by the way, you could remove that no 7 section from your gxtel 30ft pole and just put it back on for the occasional job. Makes the pole a bit lighter and nicer to hold.
Title: Re: my tds
Post by: rl on August 22, 2009, 02:43:42 pm
thanks pure tech, will have a look at removing the section, cos to be honest probably won't go that high very often!

Thanks for the link traps7.