Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Dean Taberner on August 17, 2009, 07:05:44 pm
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Hi Guys,
I met up with george today an hes working in for us in our area this week,
George and his team come highly recommended for anyone looking to expand or start their rounds.
He charges a simple 2 cleans on completion of cleaning plus any fuel costs.
Here is his website,
http://gdrb.co.uk/default.aspx
Dean
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certainly not recommended from me.
total waste of space.
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Why is that?
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if a house already has a cleaner does "george " still try n get it ??
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He doesnt undercut if thats what you are asking.
Dean
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Why is that?
he undercuts, he lies, he doesn't do what he says he will do...
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Where have you got this info from?
He seems genuine to me.
Dean
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no info then??
george is out with his team canvassing for me now and doing well from what i here.
dean
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He needs a better website!!! weres his office? looks that a cowboy 2 me IMO
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whats that picture of ???????????????????? :o on georges website
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All roundbuilding companys that have been mentioned on CIU have had a fair bit of stick. He shoud have some coments on his web site from happy customers.
If there are any
Quote from his web site
We also buy and sell Window Cleaning Rounds
If you have any work for sale contact us for the best possible price. Rounds also always for sale.
I could not see any on his site
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i used george a while ago did a good job specially wit the prices,only down side i found was i add to sort a couple of other window cleaners out, other than that george joey and ian were good lads and i will use them again
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no info then??
george is out with his team canvassing for me now and doing well from what i here.
dean
personal experience.
he may well do you a good job, however, he lied to me and let me down MASSIVELY.
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All roundbuilding companys that have been mentioned on CIU have had a fair bit of stick. He shoud have some coments on his web site from happy customers.
If there are any
Quote from his web site
We also buy and sell Window Cleaning Rounds
If you have any work for sale contact us for the best possible price. Rounds also always for sale.
I could not see any on his site
Mr Formby,
What contact have you had with George?
None I guess ??? ??? ???
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no info then??
george is out with his team canvassing for me now and doing well from what i here.
dean
personal experience.
he may well do you a good job, however, he lied to me and let me down MASSIVELY.
concept,
You obviously have an experience and are atleast honest enough to not disregard his team totally,
George and his team have not long left my house and have fixed me and my 2 guys up with a fair challenge for tomorrow.
Im confident that all will be fine this time tomorrow and ill be looking forward to another challenge on thursday.
Dean
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i used george a while ago did a good job specially wit the prices,only down side i found was i add to sort a couple of other window cleaners out, other than that george joey and ian were good lads and i will use them again
Well said Ian,
That is the name of the game unfortunatley, If those other cleaners had been half decent then im sure that George and Joey woudnt have had a look in.
The fact is they werent, and their loss is your gain.
Dean
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Mr Formby,
What contact have you had with George?
None I guess
Calm down
All I was saying that if he had some coments on his site from window cleaners who had used him and had good results others might use them.
If you look at any post about any round build company there is always negative coments. It would be good to find one that actually delivered what they promised.
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Gd round builders, George and his crew have canvassed all over mine and another window cleaners work on here which is fair play as there is no such thing as patches
ive had some bad feedback from customers saying they were pressured, asking if they were happy with their window cleaner is he on time?
etc etc they were very pushy
now it seems the other day there has been a house broken into and they seem to be pointing the finger their way! which could be unfair
ihave heard good and bad things from Mark Richardson one of georges friends but we all know when we all canvass work we dont get to keep all the work we get one off's and time wasters
i would like to state i have never met george or his lads so i cant comment on their character
regards
Brett.
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Hi Brett,
George has mentioned yourself to me with no bad words,
Also James from Xline.
Hope alls well mate,
Did you sell that RO?
Dean
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please keep an update has i may use if they get good feed back from you.
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Ronnie,
Will do mate,
Goeorge and his crew seem fine to me and id like to think that i was a good judge of character.
Theyve done a superb job for me tonight and were very professional.
Ill keep you informed,
Dean
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Hi Brett,
George has mentioned yourself to me with no bad words,
Also James from Xline.
Hope alls well mate,
Did you sell that RO?
Dean
hi dean
ive never met george can only pass on whst ive heard, did see him once he was talking to the guy he ws canvasing for they were cleaning a house that i had cleaned half an hour erlier..
my customer and i were both confused, then i went to do another house and my customer told me he said i had sold the round to them
i have no bad words for george as he has not canvassed for me but what i ve heard hes a sound guy its just the canvasses he uses
yes i also think he canvassed for james but im not sure
yes the ro's still for sale its just a matter of someone wanting one but moneys tight at the minute, james did me a good deal on it
regards
Brett.
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Hi George
as i said earlier its unfair for people to point the finger, the police are dealing with the matter and i for one would not mention anyone name without proof
mark said you were having trouble with a couple of your young lads canvassing i must stress this was with pricing nothing else
as you know when your canvassing your not going to get positve comments from everyone but 2 cleans to pay for work is very good
regards
Brett
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Brett,
Surely you would pull up if you saw us cleaning one of yours after half an hour?? You have asked for my number from Mark and know all about me so you would have no issues. Can you please stop this smear campaign as its all without substance and is hearsay. If you have nothing constructive or solid to say please dont comment.
George as you would have known from mark, i asked him to pass a message on to you to canvass berryhill for me when i was feeling better as i had a lump and had to go to the cancer clinic. As i was way behind with my work i thought she may have cancelled but this was not the case this is by no means a smear campaign and as i have said before there are no patches you can go where you like and charge what you like.
i am merley comenting on what customer have said sorry if you dont like that mate but thats just how peole are
when there are a lot of break ins in one area everyone gets the blame, window cleaners, canvasers, delivery men etc
i will have a word with my customer when she gets back from her holiday and give you an update
i have not accused i have just relayed what people have said
i will keep you informed
i'll give you a ring in the next couple of days
Brett
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Hi George
what areas of the country do you cover? I could do with some professional help canvassing as time is tight at the minute with another business but im looking to expand again soon as.......
Best Regards
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i was only curious what the picture was on the wesite,no big deal
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Hi guys,
Thanks for all your comments, Brett can you let me know details of the break in please?? Please call me on 07706 702070 or email george@gdrb.co.uk. Thanks. As for pressure its just not how we work. We only get clients who have no window cleaner or are unhappy with their current one. I have NEVER booked a job on price. We always end up with the customer paying more. Ask my cleaners, I have done the same for Dean today...
As for Concept, I was much more let down by you my friend, sending me into an area with unrealistic prices is just not do able. i also dont like being laughed at when I mention the prices I was getting. Also working together is a personal thing and I chose not to work with you. Simple.
As for my website and office situation, I built the website so its not great and does the pic on there really matter that much??? I would also like to know if me having an office is really an issue? Do you guys have an office?? guess most of you dont.....
The work situation is also a simple one, I only have a small team at the moment so I dont need masses of work, in fact I generally have people waiting.
If anyone would like to talk to me about any of the issues call me on 07706 702070 or email me on george@gdrb.co.uk
George
£10 minimum for a 2 or 3 bed semi, in this area, is not unrealistic, well, the rate my round is building, it can't be, and I am sure others in my area will state the same. Truth of the matter is, you went out, and didn't have a huge hit rate within the first x amount of minutes, and decided to bin it, be man enough to admit it, as I and many others have canvassed this area, and know it is extremely tough.
Why bother putting contact details up? You wont answer, will make up an excuse about your phone, and pretend someone else is texting from it. Be careful, you might get charged "expenses" for his phone bill...
Think very carefully if you want this "company" to build a round for you.
Personally, I am thankful for my experience with GD Roundbuilders, it has shown me that if I want to build a round professionally, to do it myself.
Thanks George.
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Concept.
would you like to come and do some canvassing for me ? your less than an hour away and if any good which I think you will be I will give you a top notch write up on here.
Sorry George wasn't having a go at you but your just to far away for me mate and you and your team seem to be very busy anyway.
Steve
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Concept.
would you like to come and do some canvassing for me ? your less than an hour away and if any good which I think you will be I will give you a top notch write up on here.
Sorry George wasn't having a go at you but your just to far away for me mate and you and your team seem to be very busy anyway.
Steve
Steve, don't know if I should be taking your comment as tongue in cheek....however...I am not a canvasser, I am a window cleaner.
Get out and canvas your company, YOU are the face of that company, YOU know what work YOU want, YOU know how you want YOUR company to be represented, YOU know what price YOU are happy to work for.
In my experience of canvassers, which is limited to attempted contact with 5 companies, only 2 ever getting back to me, many days after initial contact, they are lead by 1 person, who pays a few unprofessional people to knock on doors for cash, in an attempt to make a quick buck at your expense. A wholly unethical and unprofessional to business, however, if there was to be a professional and presentable team out there, they may have some success.
Its horses for courses though, and if it works for you, fine, after my experiences, I chose not to go this way.
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hi mate.
no it wasn't tongue in cheek it was a genuine request, and although I know your right I really would prefer someone who's been there so to speak and a window cleaner is even better as they know exactly how much to price.
if you have a couple of spare days and fancy a change of scenery then let me know
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Gd round builders, George and his crew have canvassed all over mine and another window cleaners work on here which is fair play as there is no such thing as patches
ive had some bad feedback from customers saying they were pressured, asking if they were happy with their window cleaner is he on time?
etc etc they were very pushy
now it seems the other day there has been a house broken into and they seem to be pointing the finger their way! which could be unfair
ihave heard good and bad things from Mark Richardson one of georges friends but we all know when we all canvass work we dont get to keep all the work we get one off's and time wasters
i would like to state i have never met george or his lads so i cant comment on their character
regards
Brett.
What area are you talking about here pls?
i agree there aren't any "patches, but pressurising people to change when they are happy seems a little rough!
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To ture concept YOU are your company just go out and do it yourself EASY!
its a commission based role so of course they will be pushy,tell u anything just to get the deal and get paid!
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You may pull the odd job but you wont build a business long term.
i better give up now then :P
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Id just like to add that George and his team have done a superb job for my business over the last couple of days.
Weve been on the work that he canvassed last night today and the majority of it has paid on the day and the rest will be collected tomorrow.
Also we are on the work thats been canvassed today in the morning im 100% confident of a repeat of today.
Well done George and thank you for your efforts.
Dean
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i just had to pick you up on your miss judgement. It is tough round here but the strong survive 8)
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I think alot of the canvassers success will depend on the prices being realistic for the area, if you feel you are worth more get up and canvass yourself, but to send a canvasser out i think you need to price keenly to get bundles of work fast!!
Out of interest dean what average for 3 bed semi, no conny has canvasser been aiming for???
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you seem a little touchy mate, i would of thought banging on doors for a living would make you thick skinned? ???
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I think alot of the canvassers success will depend on the prices being realistic for the area, if you feel you are worth more get up and canvass yourself, but to send a canvasser out i think you need to price keenly to get bundles of work fast!!
Out of interest dean what average for 3 bed semi, no conny has canvasser been aiming for???
£8 on average and £10 with conny sean. Some are more some are less.
Dean
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I think alot of the canvassers success will depend on the prices being realistic for the area, if you feel you are worth more get up and canvass yourself, but to send a canvasser out i think you need to price keenly to get bundles of work fast!!
Out of interest dean what average for 3 bed semi, no conny has canvasser been aiming for???
£8 on average and £10 with conny sean. Some are more some are less.
Dean
Seems reasonable to me mate, i bet you are bagging plenty of work
DId you find an area with no cleaner for canvassing, or did you just get him to knock an area you are already in??
How much work did you find per night
Hope you dont mind me asking?
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Your painting the picture. i've dealt with a few companys and it all re-enforces why i have my own canvassers. good luck in business and all the best! ;)
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i'm as straight as a ruler! ;D
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when you paint a picture you normally paint what you see ;)
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exactly so now we understand each other ;D
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Sean,
Over a ton a night so mixed in thru the day with the work ive got its a good result,
The work cleaned today is in my local area,
The majority of the houses were hanging so its very clear that they havent been cleaned for a while,
One lady who I spoke to had us instead of her current cleaner as hes unreliable, wont clean the backs and all in all does a crap job, George charged more than this guy anyway so theres no problem there in my book.
Steve CM,
Have you been on the beer? Pointless points being posted there lad ??? ??? ???
Dean
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what pointless posts? you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink it.
it has all been very straight forward but its all got over complicated by silly answers ::)
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when you paint a picture you normally paint what you see ;)
youv just panted a self potrait of a TIT ;D ;D ;D
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maybe but as long as their big and juicy i'm happy ;D
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maybe but as long as their big and juicy i'm happy ;D
lol..ll...lol... :D
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maybe but as long as their big and juicy i'm happy ;D
;D ;D
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I think its obvious what Steve is getting at, its obvious, he means if your advertising ur buisness be professional at all times, ur painting a picture of yourself. ::)
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well god damn someone has it!! ;) ;D
nothing like taking the diplomatic route if you wanna push your services you need to know how to handle your tounge better ::)
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So his implication is I am painting a bad picture?
anyone got a pen and paper......? ;D
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Hes painting!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I can handle my tongue and also spell, I just love sarcastic people, the lowest form of wit. You crack on Steve
i thought the lowest form was when you copy someone? we seem to be on very different wave lengths ;)
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haha this beats tv
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you'll know what i mean mick ;)
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Straight i thought you woz a bit bent George :o i was going to mention how well you've done for us but that would only mean less work for us so im keeping shut, All i will say is ive used and been in contact with all the canvassing companies i can find and never used any more than three times except George you draw your own conclusion from that we have now been working together for quite a few months and are totaling thousands in new work cheers George speak to you tomorrow
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hey you've made it now mate wot more could you want from life
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also your to lazy
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MSTAV,
Wow you have obviously been treated badly in the past, just for the record I am not and will never clean windows, not that I knock it as its a great way to make a living. I just prefer to talk to people all day, I love it. I have had a few problem payers but I dont tarnish all window cleaners the same way.. Give me a try you have nothing to lose
erm let me think about that 1........................
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ive got a week old baby keeping me awake why is anyone else still posting on here?
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mrs booted me out of bed for snoreing coz bunged up. couch for me..
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1 ish if only, its a lot more fun making em
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id opt for couch on me own right now :'(
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as long as someone else is working for me im happy keep it up lads its hard life aint it
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pretty sure both broken vans will be back on road tomorrow afternoon so fri is good
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Another great result from george and his guys today,
Ive just heard from the lad who collects for me that theres been no probs and theyre all looking forward to seeing us next month.
Good stuff george.
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You let someone else collect? :O
Good theres someone ou can trust like that :)
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You let someone else collect? :O
Good theres someone ou can trust like that :)
yes mate, works for me on the paye. known him 26yrs.
just waiting to kick in in london now with jv prices boys. should be starting in half hr.
the joys of window cleaning.
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Dean,
What area are you based in?
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based in stoke on trent mate
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george if you see this mail me back,
think we need your help cheers
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based in stoke on trent mate
Just wondered how you were working for JV Price in Stoke!
I may come to Vale Park when Bournemouth play there soon, been before, nice ground.
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based in stoke on trent mate
Just wondered how you were working for JV Price in Stoke!
I may come to Vale Park when Bournemouth play there soon, been before, nice ground.
because i love the trade mate and theres not much better then working with charlies lads, theyre a superb firm,
if u come up to the vale give me a bell mate and if im not at our caravan then we can meet for a beer.
my number is 07515286183.
dean