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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ftp on August 15, 2009, 08:31:12 am

Title: Poor workmanship
Post by: ftp on August 15, 2009, 08:31:12 am
Picking up work from other wfp operators this last week. Get the phonecall and go out to quote "I don't want that pole rubbish mind - that's what the last cleaner used. I came home from work and the windows were filthy with dirty water all over the cills, I had to clean them all again"
I don't know who it is but he's giving the rest of us a bad name. I picked this customer up from another customer - she was around his house and couldn't believe how clean his windows looked.
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: Mike #1 on August 15, 2009, 08:41:22 am
i think some people rush in with wfp and think they can clash them off in no time , although i must admit i have made mistakes in the beginning but custys have been good enough to let me know and i have cleaned windys for free and asked them to contact me if they are not happy still got same custys , apart from one who came out ranting and raving and refused to let me apologise and try rectify my mistakes 
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: jonnyald on August 15, 2009, 08:47:33 am
i think some people rush in with wfp and think they can clash them off in no time , although i must admit i have made mistakes in the beginning but custys have been good enough to let me know and i have cleaned windys for free and asked them to contact me if they are not happy still got same custys , apart from one who came out ranting and raving and refused to let me apologise and try rectify my mistakes 

darn right theyll be "good enough to let you know " - theres very few shrinking violets in the suburbs is there,but  plenty of battleaxes ,shrewd with an eye for detail. lol
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: stephen s on August 15, 2009, 09:26:53 am
this is what happens when greedy people go to clean as many houses as they can in a day so they can brag about it regardless of what state the leave the windows in.

but to be honest I love them as I keep picking up new work because of them and even in most cases I charge more but customers are happy to pay when they see the results.

Keep up the bad work guys, your paying for my 2nd van  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: clean on August 15, 2009, 09:33:13 am
Iv`e always always always said this about wfp and useless idiots that CAN NOT use it properly and then it gets knocked and given a bad name but can soon be put right by someone doing it right  ;)
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: kenaltobelli on August 15, 2009, 09:34:35 am
why do you need two vans just to be greedy i supose.
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: R W C on August 15, 2009, 09:34:58 am
this is what happens when greedy people go to clean as many houses as they can in a day so they can brag about it regardless of what state the leave the windows in.

but to be honest I love them as I keep picking up new work because of them and even in most cases I charge more but customers are happy to pay when they see the results.

Keep up the bad work guys, your paying for my 2nd van  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

spot on its happening my way, jouk said they shold have training but i dont as i wouldnt be picking up so much work if it wasnt for them  ;D
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: jeff68 on August 15, 2009, 10:14:27 am
lol.I am getting work from a trad wc and I use wfp!!He only cleans the glass and not the frames and I charge the same price as him.Long live wfp!!!!
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: R W C on August 15, 2009, 10:18:22 am
up your prices a few quid as thees a reason to being me expensive
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: stephen s on August 15, 2009, 11:06:27 am
why do you need two vans just to be greedy i supose.









yeah yeah   and to show people like you how to spell suppose,    nothing wrong with expanding mate, especially when you customers are happy with your work and recommending you to other people.

its called ambition mate     don't you have any ?
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on August 15, 2009, 12:21:18 pm
Was asked to price a house up the other day, the wc couldn't do the window above the conservatory, when I got there I find out that he is wfp but is now doing a really bad job, the window above the con has to be done trad from the inside, but he's leaving spots galore on all the other windows.

As I'm pricing I see a wc doing a block of flats and literally doing one pass no rinse no frames, you couldn't walk around the flats much faster than he was cleaning them. I was doing some work around the corner the next day so had a look and pretty much half of them had come up really bad, but then other stretches were good.

Simon.
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: stephen s on August 15, 2009, 12:56:28 pm
and I bet he tells his mate down the pub how great he is at cleaning windows and no one can clean as many houses as him in a day

god bless his little cotton socks  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: matt on August 15, 2009, 01:10:02 pm
and I bet he tells his mate down the pub how great he is at cleaning windows and no one can clean as many houses as him in a day

god bless his little cotton socks  ;D ;D ;D

or he even might come on here and brag about his 800 quid a day ;)
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: macmac on August 15, 2009, 01:45:51 pm
He might be a victim of the over-hype of wfp which still continues day in, day out on forums like this one.

Like cleaning a "standard 3 bed semi" ::) in 6 minutes from pulling up to driving off!!!!

Or, how so much more he's gonna earn with wfp

How easy wfp is

Plus all the other over-enthusiastic crap that's spewed on to our screens! ;)
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on August 15, 2009, 02:41:49 pm
Yep ive picked up from trad and wfp.

I think people get wfp and just dont have a clue what to do and dont bother finding out
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: Mike #1 on August 15, 2009, 05:52:24 pm
seen results of bad wfp like sherwood cleaning flats on maintence clean frames filthy and vents full of muck quick going over windows were left with filthy runs
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: windowswashed on August 15, 2009, 05:57:56 pm
I picked up 4 nice big detached houses in a private road from a bad wfp'er this week. Waiting on the rest of the street to email or phone me next week. I love wfp'ers who haven't got a clue ;D
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: GWCS on August 15, 2009, 06:38:48 pm
Its becoming a real problem lately people not wanting wfp due to bad experiences.. its becoming harder to get people to give you a chance, and having to spend more time explaining how it works and what happens if you dont do it properly.

And its mainly because wfpWC's dont do the frames just the glass.  ::)



He might be a victim of the over-hype of wfp which still continues day in, day out on forums like this one.

Like cleaning a "standard 3 bed semi" ::) in 6 minutes from pulling up to driving off!!!!

Or, how so much more he's gonna earn with wfp

How easy wfp is

Plus all the other over-enthusiastic crap that's spewed on to our screens! ;)

wfp cleaning can be very easy and very quick, you just need to know what and how to do it properly.
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: macmac on August 15, 2009, 06:55:28 pm
Its becoming a real problem lately people not wanting wfp due to bad experiences.. its becoming harder to get people to give you a chance, and having to spend more time explaining how it works and what happens if you dont do it properly.

And its mainly because wfpWC's dont do the frames just the glass.  ::)



He might be a victim of the over-hype of wfp which still continues day in, day out on forums like this one.

Like cleaning a "standard 3 bed semi" ::) in 6 minutes from pulling up to driving off!!!!

Or, how so much more he's gonna earn with wfp

How easy wfp is

Plus all the other over-enthusiastic crap that's spewed on to our screens! ;)

wfp cleaning can be very easy and very quick, you just need to know what and how to do it properly.

It can also be very hard & a lot slower than trad, depending on circumstances! After 5.5 years wfp I still do plenty of trad! ;)
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: Mike 108 on August 15, 2009, 07:39:40 pm
He might be a victim of the over-hype of wfp which still continues day in, day out on forums like this one.

Like cleaning a "standard 3 bed semi" ::) in 6 minutes from pulling up to driving off!!!!

Or, how so much more he's gonna earn with wfp

How easy wfp is

Plus all the other over-enthusiastic crap that's spewed on to our screens! ;)

Well said (again)!

2 years WFP - and if I give my own windows a 'quick going over', I often see 'spotting' or 'runs' from 'double openers'

That's why I never rush a customer's windows - and can leave 'with confidence' 99% of the time.
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: stephen s on August 15, 2009, 07:46:28 pm
I was cleaning a 4 bed house in a private road a couple of weeks and when a lady came over and asked me would I give her a quote,  went across to her house and it was almost the same as the one I was cleaning so I told her it would be £25 including all frames.

can you clean it from next month she asks as Ive just paid my current w/c £20 for a supposed clean but as you can see all the streaks and runs on glass.

is he WFP I ask,  yes she replies but he's in and out in 5-10 mins and Ive watched you a couple of times now and your over there about half hour  and when I drive into the close the house you clean always looks really nice and then I see the runs down my glass and Ive had enough.

I don't mind paying the extra £5 because I know my windows are gonna look like the house your cleaning,  even made me a nice cup of Earl gray while she slagged other w/c off and said she had complained to him on numerous occasions but to no avail.
Title: Re: Poor workmanship
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on August 15, 2009, 09:21:06 pm
£25 for 4bed house ::),must be good