Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: paul.g on August 12, 2009, 09:45:58 pm
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Hi, I wandered if there was any benefit in mechanical agitation over a pile brush. If there was a difference would it be noticable and are there any disadvantages in using the mechanical method. I am thinking of investing in a Sebo carpet agitator is it a good idea?
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you'll feel the benefits in your lower back ;D
why bark if you can afford a dog.
sebo's are okay but theres better out there.
i use a sebo and its good enough but i do follow up with a trucky.
derek
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Now that's a damned good question.
The answer is that there are many benefits of mechanical agitation.
You won't need it on every carpet, though some do use scrubbers on every job.
It does seriously add to the overall effectiveness of your prespray whilst at the same time agitates the encrusted soil deep down the carpet pile and therefore makes the extraction process that much more effective.
You may not see the difference on a visual level but its effect is in the quality of the clean.
It's something that IMO you must have on your van.
Simon
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You will get the added benefit of extra pile lift which is a great selling point.
Shaun
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It will also collect anymore rubbish thats in the carpet after a pre vac such as pet hair and broken fibres
Mark
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apart from the the obvious benefits as stated in current posts it also looks more prof from a custys point of view. started with a brush moved on to a sebo and now use an envirodri
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It's also good if your prespraying is a bit hit and miss.
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Use something like an Envirodri (or Host), heavier duty then the Sebo Duo, and you will see some marks "disappearing" before your eyes - ready to be flushed out with water. You know your life is going to be easier that day when it does that.
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Joe
What machine do you use ???
Cheers
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I've been using the Sebo Duo on the commercial job I've been doing expecting it to be rubbish (As sugested on here) But the results are outstanding. I'm getting better results than last year but I think the Advance has a large part to play, (An extra 300psi and more air flow!)
Next year I hope we will be armed with something a bit "Meatier" the RX20 or something of that nature!
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Clinton
I got the Envirodri Gen4 - 2 years ago now. Dont use it on every job, but when I do the results are good.
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Also good if you're a bit of a scrubber!!! :o
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Cleaned an entire carpet with a pre spray and a sebo duo this morning. Not good practice I know, but I was told it was a ground floor apt when it was a 4th floor apt and the tennants are moving in tonight, got all the stains out and looked great.
Paul
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I use a rotowash. A bit heavy but is superb on minging carpets, and looks clean before you extract.
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good thing about the sebo is there light enough to use on stairs, did some absolutely minging pub stairs leading up to the living quarters today, and i mean minging, used the sebo with a tanker load of powerburst hot. came up a treat. landlord was gobsmacked. seriously gob smacked. must admit, so was i. first time ive used the sebo on stairs and they were really easy due to its light weight. if i ever up grade to an enviro or flexi, i'll keep the sebo for stairs just incase i come across ones like today.
derek
ps... my worker took a picture of the stairs then forgot the after picture, bloody muppet ;D
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Never used any mech agg other than a rotary on the real mingers , fancy a enviro but when using a stiff brush coupled with the right chem and a tm they seem to come up well IMO and my clients cause they book up again
I like re-booking clients :-* :-* :-*
;D
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Hi, I wandered if there was any benefit in mechanical agitation over a pile brush. If there was a difference would it be noticable and are there any disadvantages in using the mechanical method. I am thinking of investing in a Sebo carpet agitator is it a good idea?
Thank you everyone for some brilliant advice (again) I think I might start of with a Sebo Duo and see how it goes. THANKS. Paul.
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Tm ???
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Hm Tony just what I thought ???
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;) ;)
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Anyone use a 15" OP? That would have a bit more weight and still manageable on a lot of jobs.
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i carry a 15" standard speed rotary and a duo on the van as standard.
Before I had the duo I used to lug the roto in and out cursing its weight and awkwardness: sometimes it was a bit overkill, but the job needed more than I could do by hand with a carpet groomer.
The duo fills the gap nicely, and as derek says its bloody brilliant for stairs, especially getting over the angle of the nosings. I was using my minitex for this but it was a bit of a faff and the duo is much quicker.
The duo really doesn't lift up polyprop pile at all but I find it great on wool & nylon.
The 15" roto really is head and shoulders above the duo for really grotty carpets and much quicker.
Horses for courses!
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Jim do you use a brush or a pad on your roto?
I have a 15" but thought an OP would be better/safer than an rotory.
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I use either, depending on the situation. Brush on polyprop that needs pile lift as well, bonnet on wool/nylon. Brush to deal with pet hair, embedded fluff and sock fibres
Nothing wrong with rotary cleaning on most carpets after they've had a few years' wear, as long as you spray it up nice and damp to lubricate.
Obviously with wool, the newer the carpet the more risk of noticeable texture distortion. In most cases if you need something as robust as a rotary to agitate a wool carpet, the chances are it's not been treated very well and it really doesn't matter if you slightly distort the pile as long as you get a good visual clean.... the customer wants the carpet looking cleaner! You've just restored a carpet for a fraction of the cost of buying a new one, so if you've accelerated the signs of wear a little bit that's an acceptable trade-off. I think most would agree with that, rather than sticking to "safe" methods and shrugging shoulders when it doesn't come up as great as it could have.
Same mode of thought applies to higher pH cleaning products, you gotta do what you gotta do! Just make sure you know what it is that you're doing, when you gotta do it, that's my philosophy :)