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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: pride on August 02, 2009, 07:57:45 pm

Title: wfp brushes
Post by: pride on August 02, 2009, 07:57:45 pm
where is the best place to get new brush heads with jets in complete brush head
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: elite mike on August 02, 2009, 08:00:38 pm
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Brushes.html
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: Platinum NW on August 02, 2009, 08:02:43 pm
one window cleaning magazine i read - cant remember which one - said to buy one from ionic. They dont collect dirt as much as the ones brodex supplies and they are ment to be softer and do a better job. I havent used a WFP system before but thats the info i got
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: pingu on August 02, 2009, 08:10:20 pm
Gardiners.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: dave.e on August 02, 2009, 08:42:48 pm
Gardiners.  Gardiners.  Gardiners.  Gardiners. ho and i forgot Gardiners.    sorry could not help myself
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: karygate on August 02, 2009, 08:44:03 pm
which gardiner superlight brush is most like a vikan (except for weight obviously)
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: dave.e on August 02, 2009, 08:46:38 pm
which gardiner superlight brush is most like a vikan (except for weight obviously)

none off them are like the vikan. The superlights are much better.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: jouk45 on August 02, 2009, 09:09:12 pm
vikan sill is the best brush out there, trust me  ;D
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: dave.e on August 02, 2009, 09:15:52 pm
vikan sill is the best brush out there, trust me  ;D

I thought that till i tryed the superlight one's but i could not go back to the vikan now but yes you are right they are good brushes
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: jouk45 on August 02, 2009, 09:20:42 pm
just hope alex can make a lighter version even 250g will do me nicely, although 500g in weight it does not affect me as i use the harris pole, and you dont even know its on there,
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: dave.e on August 02, 2009, 09:41:18 pm
come on Alex we all want lighter brushes. Alex do you think you could make the stock out off carbon fiber and would it be lighter
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: jouk45 on August 02, 2009, 09:44:09 pm
even polysterene will do  ;D
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 02, 2009, 10:33:02 pm
There will be lighter.......how does 180g sound?
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 02, 2009, 10:39:18 pm
come on Alex we all want lighter brushes. Alex do you think you could make the stock out off carbon fiber and would it be lighter

We have looked into carbon fibre and it just doesn't work.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: matt on August 02, 2009, 10:42:35 pm
There will be lighter.......how does 180g sound?

180 is seriously light

i have my vikan down to 204 g

how heavy is the current superlite brush ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: Alex Gardiner on August 02, 2009, 10:47:43 pm
270 g
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: matt on August 02, 2009, 10:50:39 pm
270 to 180, thats impressive, fair play
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: GWCS on August 02, 2009, 11:09:27 pm
Ionics? You must have been reading their magazine!!

Those brushes are good for sweeping your driveway with but naff for cleaning windows..

Never used a vikan, but i have 4 gardiners brushes, 2 flocked and 2 DT - great brushes for cleaning windows!
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: luther1 on August 02, 2009, 11:26:10 pm
Gardiners,and i've tried them all,believe me. The time it saves you will earn yo £££££. If the brush was £75 it would be cheap.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: windowswashed on August 02, 2009, 11:27:19 pm
Gardiners brushes (SL) are light but lack scrubbing power to match. Need more bristles and a wider or longer stock alternative please.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: luther1 on August 02, 2009, 11:36:51 pm
Really? Come and work with me for a day and see how i get on with one.What brush do you use?
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: windowswashed on August 02, 2009, 11:41:12 pm
Really? Come and work with me for a day and see how i get on with one.What brush do you use?

Gardiners & Tuckers
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: luther1 on August 02, 2009, 11:57:43 pm
On big commercial jobs i have an adapted 18" Tucker which does the job for stability and speed. An 18" Gardiners brush would be great(Alex?).On domestic and standard commercial jobs the Gardiners brush,it is in a world of its own.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: stephen s on August 03, 2009, 07:30:33 am
no brush even comes close to the cleaning abilities of a Vikan brush,   forget the weight  after all were only talking a few ounces and if you prefer something lighter then you shouldn't be cleaning windows  :D

Vikan is truly in a league of its own when it comes to cleaning glass and is so long lasting,   I was getting less than 6 months out of a double trim brush  but those Vikan go on and on with brilliant results.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: Mike #1 on August 03, 2009, 07:45:04 am
the white unflocked brush has far better scrubbing  power than any other brush i have used, only used dual trim don't know about single trim at the moment seem to losing some bristles from flocked brush
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: windowswashed on August 03, 2009, 05:48:12 pm
There is a big difference trying to scrub soiled windows (bird muck) when comparing a Tucker brush and a Gardiners SL brush 4 storeys high using cold water. The Tucker is twice as easy in comparison.

 I cut my Tucker stock's down to the very bare minimum so they are the same weight as Gardiners SL brush but have many more bristles left in the stock to aid cleaning and gliding horizontally across the glass when rinsing. The only problem I have using Tucker brushes is when using hot water, the bristles on the Tucker brush cause some black seals to run initially whereas the Gardiners brush bristles don't because they are not Dupont bristles.

Heated water also makes the cleaning a lot easier (less scrubbing effort or pressure required).

The reason I can spot the comparisons so easily is because I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis and am more aware of the extra pressure required to shift the same stubborn dirt using both brushes.

I don't fancy using flocked brushes because they slowly accumulate dirt on the bristles which occasionally need cleaning to remove. I prefer double trim mono filament brushes as I never need to clean the brushes, even after doing black, filthy initial cleans or washing fascias, gutters, etc.

Gardiners SL brush is good, but could be improved for the domestic market by making the stock wider and fitting more bristles, weight is not of importance.  Also a longer stock would be more suitable on large glass for commercial work. The lightness is only important when working 3 storey upwards.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: gary999 on August 03, 2009, 05:58:12 pm
about time gardiners did a sill brush would be a nice
compromise for me sl brushes great for lightness but totally
frustrate me with their lack of scrubbing power
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: ftp on August 03, 2009, 06:14:06 pm
Funny all this talk about brushes.
I've used the dual trim mono since it came out, but now prefer the dual trim flocked.
No particular reason other than it's less scratchy on the glass and just happens to be the best brush for shifting algae from guttering so far. I would prefer the bristles in white though. No doubt Alex will bring one out next week 'cos i've just ordered a new one.  ::)
The superlight range to seem rather spindly when fifty feet up  ;D
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: [GQC] Tim on August 03, 2009, 06:15:38 pm
There will be lighter.......how does 180g sound?

Wow, that's incredible. That will be a definite buy.
Title: Re: wfp brushes
Post by: Spruce on August 03, 2009, 09:02:08 pm
Hi

I have always preferred the flocked oval vikans because they are like a mop on the windows and their shape makes them very stable IMO. The only gripe I have with them is their weight - too heavy.

Whilst I appreciate that brushes are very much a personal choice, I am very impressed with the new Superlite dual trim flocked brush of Gardners. I think Alex has a real winner here. It is so much like the Vikan performance wise but without the weight.

Thanks Alex

Spruce