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Title: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: rl on July 29, 2009, 10:42:41 am
Hi again guys, I'll try not to let this sound like another new guy wanting to know if I should take up window cleaning or not, which it is! I'll just tell you about myself as you guys all seem friendly and willing to give good advice.

Basically I've been thinking of starting my own window cleaning business for the past 4 months or so, I've always wanted to work for myself, I'm 30 years old with a wife and young daughter and probably another baby within next 2 years, based in Lancashire, my wife has quite a good job that she enjoys and I have a job which pays me £8.50 an hour 40 - 45 hours a week working shifts which include some early starts 5:30am and a late finish (midnight) every other saturday night, I have every other weekend off and work the other weekend with a day off in the week too , I don't absolutely hate it, but I don't look forward to going to work, I'm sat on my backside 9 - 11 hours a day which is doing nothing for the size of my stomach!!!

So to me there are many reasons I'd like to start a window cleaning business:
1. I'll be working for myself which i've always wanted to do.
2. I won't have to work every other saturday and sunday nor work until midnight.
3. Hopefully I'll earn a similar or more wage, eventually.
4. I won't be sat on my backside for my entire working week, I'll be out and about hopefully keeping healthy.
5. I'll be doing something I enjoy.

I have a van and intend to put together a WFP system and buy the bits needed for traditional cleaning, and then start by cleaning my own/family windows to get some practice and hopefully then get an odd job or two to do on my weekday off from work and then when I have to much work, leave my job and do window cleaning full time.

However, my wife hasn't said as much, but I know she's a bit worried about me doing this full time, which I understand, after all at the moment I'm guaranteed a weekly wage after tax of £260 - £300 which we need to pay the bills, where as as a w/c nothing is guaranteed. Most posts I've read have said, do it, you won't regret it, you won't look back etc, but I have read a couple saying it is more difficult to get into w/c now and there are a lot of people doing it, which since thinking about doing it I have seen more and more vans going about doing w/c, but don't know if thats because I've been looking for them!

So, if you've made it to the end of this post (well done!) and I would appreciate your advice or anything you want to say.

Thanks in advance, your advice will be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: karygate on July 29, 2009, 10:53:59 am
hi i was in your position 2 years ago. i started by dropping 450 leaflets and getting 7 customers and have built from there by recommendation alone. i now have over 150 customers and an income of around 250 pounds a week for half of the hours i used to work, which is what i used to earn. i did it for quality of life but i know i will just keep building from strength to strength as customers keep on coming .
 if you need to build quicker then canvassing is your route but i do not think you get quality of customer and commitment that way but the income comes quicker

as whether to go wfp or not i would go straight in at wfp because the start up cost will probably be not much more and you already have a van,i still work out of a box trailer.

  what i did was to get a part time job while i was building up .hope this helps.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Central Window Cleaners on July 29, 2009, 11:09:58 am
With some hard work canvassing and the add on services like gutter cleaning and conservatory cleaning I don't think you would have any problem in earning over £300 a week.  Once you get upto speed you should be able to make at least £100 a day so you would only have to work 3 days to make you minimum per week.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: ftp on July 29, 2009, 11:32:17 am
But bear in mind although say £400 a week sounds very attractive in your present job, you need to take off your overheads (considerable when starting up WFP), no holiday pay, no sick pay, no pension and sitting on your arse like me today whilst the rain bounces off the conservatory roof.
My advice - build it up but don't jump ship 'till you really have to. That day will come when you have too much work part time but not enough for full time. Good luck.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: GWCS on July 29, 2009, 11:34:39 am
Making a decent round takes time, and a lot of effort. Your will prob find yourself working weekends to catch up from the rain, or if you have a lot of work on. You will be out working in all weather getting soaked, working in temperatures ranging from 0 to 30, its not plain sailing as everyone makes out.

Its hard work, but there are rewards.

Personally i wouldn;t have done this as a job, if i wasn't struggling to find a job and went to work with my uncle and got bitten by the bug, and i actually like working outdoor in all weathers (in fact if i could choose a job other than window cleaning, id probably be a forest ranger)

I love this work now, but it has its drawbacks.

If your the sole bread winner or you are dependant on your wage as well i would suggest getting some personal accident insurance once you quit your other job, because if you have an accident are are not able to work, whos gonna pay your bills? Oh and make sure you FULLY understand the T&C's of the policy many people get sold rubbish polices that dont cover them.

If it a case of being healthy or the size of you belly then you are plainly over eating, and taking too many calories for the job you are in.

Ive done jobs sitting on my bum in a call centre and i put on weight cos i ate more then i needed too. Therefore i would suggest reducing your calorie intake or get to the gym or get out exercising when you get home from work to burn the extra calories off. Im out most days working but i ensure i find the time to get to the gym, to stay fit and healthy.

You will find that everyone that replies on here are an established window cleaner who have made the financial and emotional risks to get a business of the ground.. what about all those that have tried and failed? You wont hear their side of the coin..

Im not saying dont, for what reason would i do that? I just saying be careful its all too easy to get dazzled by the lights and number that get posted.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: ftp on July 29, 2009, 11:48:48 am
Very few people actually choose to be a window cleaner most are forced into it. Be prepared to be the butt of the George Formby jokes from friends and the initial feeling of being rock bottom in the eyes of many. Windowcleaners are down there with the dustmen and toilet attendants. Yor wife may not like the idea of telling her friends and the kids about your wonderful career move.
Once you get established and start compacting your round and get to the stage where the phone goes off most days and look at your earnings then you will have the last laugh.  ;)
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Skyglide on July 29, 2009, 12:19:48 pm
You have to have 100% commitment to building your business, and YOU HAVE TO LIKE CLEANING WINDOWS. The transition from regular money to regular cash flow from your business will be hard and take longer than you think.
Your wife is right to think like she does and in Lancashire you've got a lot of rain and downtime.
A man has to work to the day he dies generally, so try and choose work which is enjoyable and pays the bills.
If you take the plunge you have to accept that everything around you will have to suffer your obsessiveness to make this work.
That said, we have done this and come out the other side with a decent standard of living. Suggest part time or work with a window cleaner to see if you like cleaning windows first.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: sparklebright on July 29, 2009, 12:29:32 pm
I agree with all the above. Also...

You have to be a self-starter. Unless you do your work you earn nothing.
Sounds obvious I know but some people just turn up to work without thinking about it, and just bum around until it's hometime.  You know the type I'm sure. ::)
Are you the sort who works hard even if he's not being watched, if so then you'll be OK.
Or are you the type who does the bear minimum in which case you'll be skint.

Practise a lot so that you get speed up. Build up a small round on your days off, most work is monthly so that should be OK, and as someone else said, you'll reach a point where you have to go full time or give it up. When you do make the jump canvas like mad.
It won't be easy, when I was setting up I basically had two jobs for a while, I was knackered. but I have never regretted it.

Well apart from one morning at 5 am when my hand almost got froze to my pole! ;D
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: GWCS on July 29, 2009, 12:52:09 pm
I agree with all the above. Also...

You have to be a self-starter. Unless you do your work you earn nothing.
Sounds obvious I know but some people just turn up to work without thinking about it, and just bum around until it's hometime.  You know the type I'm sure. ::)
Are you the sort who works hard even if he's not being watched, if so then you'll be OK.
Or are you the type who does the bear minimum in which case you'll be skint.

Practise a lot so that you get speed up. Build up a small round on your days off, most work is monthly so that should be OK, and as someone else said, you'll reach a point where you have to go full time or give it up. When you do make the jump canvas like mad.
It won't be easy, when I was setting up I basically had two jobs for a while, I was knackered. but I have never regretted it.

Well apart from one morning at 5 am when my hand almost got froze to my pole! ;D

thats got to be the worst.. freezing cold mornings, and you have to get up to go work outside! your hands are numb and your fingers feel like they are about to fall off. Pole work is worst as you are not using your hands in the same way as trad to keep them moving to get the blood circulating.

Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Londoner on July 29, 2009, 01:08:35 pm
Its got to be inside you to stick at it, once you start there is no going back. Reflect on this very seriously.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: macmac on July 29, 2009, 02:06:02 pm
Very few people actually choose to be a window cleaner most are forced into it. Be prepared to be the butt of the George Formby jokes from friends and the initial feeling of being rock bottom in the eyes of many. Windowcleaners are down there with the dustmen and toilet attendants. Yor wife may not like the idea of telling her friends and the kids about your wonderful career move.
Once you get established and start compacting your round and get to the stage where the phone goes off most days and look at your earnings then you will have the last laugh.  ;)


PMSL  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We really are the lowest of the low!!!! ;D
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: cozy on July 29, 2009, 02:17:05 pm
All very good posts. Christies mentioned perhaps working with a window cleaner. I can't imagine a WC having a problem with that. Give it a go to see how you feel. Oh and what GWCS said about gym work, if you don't get at least a little bit fitter than you are now, when you finish your first days work, you will feel more knackered and aches and pains in places you didn't know you had places.

Another good idea would be to look back on some old posts and see what guys get for problems and how to solve them, you won't have to reinvent the wheel then, if you know what I mean.

By the way, if you get really strange awkward plonker custies, go and ask FTP, he knows all about those ;D
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: cozy on July 29, 2009, 04:17:52 pm
PMSL name change is always a good idea. ;D As you can see, you will need a sense of humour, this helps :)
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Platinum NW on July 29, 2009, 05:09:50 pm
GO FOR IT
End of the day its the cash you want so if you have the determination and support i think from your wife is what you want then you will be wealthy. There is not many places to go wrong in window cleaning and you will learn all the business skills you will need from the experience - Look at me im only 20 and ive just sold a round for nearly £30000 now im setting up a construction company

Just believe in yourself especially when its gets tough like when its constantly raining or many guys on ere will tell you that you will get the odd weeks when it gets to you. Let your wife know that you are committed and ask for her support all the way and your half way there

If youve got the cash try and buy and existing round

GOOD LUCK

GOOD LUCK
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: elite mike on July 29, 2009, 05:19:35 pm
All very good posts. Christies mentioned perhaps working with a window cleaner. I can't imagine a WC having a problem with that. Give it a go to see how you feel. Oh and what GWCS said about gym work, if you don't get at least a little bit fitter than you are now, when you finish your first days work, you will feel more knackered and aches and pains in places you didn't know you had places.

Another good idea would be to look back on some old posts and see what guys get for problems and how to solve them, you won't have to reinvent the wheel then, if you know what I mean.


By the way, if you get really strange awkward plonker work-associates, go and ask Cozy, he knows all about those  ;D

your first name is not matt by any chance  ;)
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: gary999 on July 29, 2009, 05:34:43 pm
im now in my third year its been hard work and im
only now just starting to get anywhere near where i want to be
i have had plenty of probs over the last three yrs financial and
personal but for me i feel ultimately it has been worth it.

as for wives worrying...well mine never stops

especially when it starts raining ;D
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 29, 2009, 06:10:32 pm
rl,

Its no good,

Stick to your current job,

Dean.


Only joking......

Its an ideal job mate, its very hard work to build up though,

Dean
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: matt on July 29, 2009, 06:23:58 pm
you need to try and spend your spare time building up a little round before you jack your job in, or failing that, talk to a few local guys and see if they have any spare work going ( it'll be the crap, but its a start and a few quid in your pocket )

Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Dale Smith on July 29, 2009, 06:30:01 pm
Superb thread this... good honest advice..well mostly!!  ;)

RL - pick through the advice it's very very good.
I started with my brother without getting any advice & regret it a lot.

My best advice would be to start slowly, work at it part time while still keeping your full time job. You will then know when it's time to jump as FTP says, he is right about what people will think about you as well when you say you are a window cleaner.

We have nearly finished our 2nd year, the round is improving all the time...but....it's been tough to get to where we are.


Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: rl on July 29, 2009, 07:47:51 pm
well, where do i start, thanks so much for all the replies, i never expected so many to reply and give me such good advice. I've been on forums in the past for plumbers/electricians etc and they are all a bunch of miserable bar stewards, you guys are so up beat and seem genuinely happy in your work and unlike them happy to help people out.

so, with regards working outside in all weather and doing a manual job, my first job was working for a scaffolding firm, bloody hard graft and in all weathers, so I know what it's like, not always the most enjoyable thing, but I do strangely like the thought of getting wrapped up on a cold winters morning and stetting off for the day.

and about window cleaning not being thought of as the best job in the world, I have thought the wife might not be keen on telling everyone what I do, we've just moved into a new house and some of the neighbours are doctors and the like, to be honest I couldn't give a toss what people think of me, but the wife might, I did think she can say I'm the managing director of a cleaning company and we have 5 vans on the road etc, they'd never know!

my job at the moment is a bus driver  :'(, done it dor the last 7 years, compared to the scaffolding it's not hard graft, but it is really tiring work mentally. If it weren't for the bosses, passengers and other road users, it'd be a great job!, but seriously I feel like every day I get home thinking I can't do this for the rest of my life.

I have to admit, canvassing would not be my idea of good fun, I enjoy meeting people and get on with people and will enjoy seeing people when I'm cleaning windows and don't mind calling to collect money  :) etc, but I know how I feel when someone knocks on my door selling something. How ever I'd try and get the wife or someone in the family to go out canvassing so I know they'l do a good job. If and when I left my full time job i'd probably give it a go.

I do intend to start and do my day off in the week window cleaning and there is the possibility of me going to a 4 day week so I might be able to do 2/3 days window cleaning before having to make the jump and leave employment.

As for my stomach, after 7 years as a bus driver, I've put on 2 stones, there are very few people who come to work there and don't put on a stone or two, but as you said and I admit I do enjoy the odd take away etc that I probably shouldn't have, and could make more of an effort to keep fit, but hopefully the window cleaning will start the belly shrinking instead of growing!

So, thanks agian and I look forward to reading more of your replies.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: matt on July 29, 2009, 07:51:51 pm


I do intend to start and do my day off in the week window cleaning and there is the possibility of me going to a 4 day week so I might be able to do 2/3 days window cleaning before having to make the jump and leave employment.



thats the best option and a must do

build up enough work for 1 day a week, then have the extra day off work, thus 2 days work, then take on more work so your customers fall to 5 weekly, then you will have that little extra till you can jack your job in and then drop back to 4 weeks
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: rl on July 29, 2009, 07:56:27 pm


thats the best option and a must do

build up enough work for 1 day a week, then have the extra day off work, thus 2 days work, then take on more work so your customers fall to 5 weekly, then you will have that little extra till you can jack your job in and then drop back to 4 weeks

Thanks for that, good way of doing it and wouldn't have thought of doing it like that.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Platinum NW on July 29, 2009, 07:56:41 pm
Again i want to wish you the best of luck - Your going about it the best way and once you convince your wife with the income you bring home in 1 day she will be backing you 200%

All the best
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: matt on July 29, 2009, 08:03:09 pm


thats the best option and a must do

build up enough work for 1 day a week, then have the extra day off work, thus 2 days work, then take on more work so your customers fall to 5 weekly, then you will have that little extra till you can jack your job in and then drop back to 4 weeks

Thanks for that, good way of doing it and wouldn't have thought of doing it like that.

its a bit sneaky, but to be honest, they rarely notice between 4 and 5 weeks or even 6 weeks ( just explain to then it was the bad weather )
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: R W C on July 29, 2009, 08:38:34 pm
All very good posts. Christies mentioned perhaps working with a window cleaner. I can't imagine a WC having a problem with that. Give it a go to see how you feel. Oh and what GWCS said about gym work, if you don't get at least a little bit fitter than you are now, when you finish your first days work, you will feel more knackered and aches and pains in places you didn't know you had places.

Another good idea would be to look back on some old posts and see what guys get for problems and how to solve them, you won't have to reinvent the wheel then, if you know what I mean.


By the way, if you get really strange awkward plonker work-associates, go and ask Cozy, he knows all about those  ;D

your first name is not matt by any chance  ;)

Pardonez moi?

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=78395.0#msg688441
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: suds window service on July 29, 2009, 08:41:51 pm
if you have the determination you will succeed . we have been going 15 months and built up a good customer base of around 350.
 this has been down to hard work some times seven days per week to get it where it is today.
 (Good tip) have a look at my back post,s from the beginning and try not to make my early mistakes lol.
                            good luck Dave.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on July 29, 2009, 09:10:02 pm


thats the best option and a must do

build up enough work for 1 day a week, then have the extra day off work, thus 2 days work, then take on more work so your customers fall to 5 weekly, then you will have that little extra till you can jack your job in and then drop back to 4 weeks

Thanks for that, good way of doing it and wouldn't have thought of doing it like that.

its a bit sneaky, but to be honest, they rarely notice between 4 and 5 weeks or even 6 weeks ( just explain to then it was the bad weather )

That is how I have done it so far.  Got too many for part-time not enough for full time.  Not had the bottle to go for it yet and most of that has been down to the terrible weather.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Window Cleaning Services on July 29, 2009, 10:53:05 pm
where are you based?
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: geefree on July 29, 2009, 11:35:43 pm
Very few people actually choose to be a window cleaner most are forced into it. Be prepared to be the butt of the George Formby jokes from friends and the initial feeling of being rock bottom in the eyes of many. Windowcleaners are down there with the dustmen and toilet attendants. Yor wife may not like the idea of telling her friends and the kids about your wonderful career move.
Once you get established and start compacting your round and get to the stage where the phone goes off most days and look at your earnings then you will have the last laugh. ;)

that is so true
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Fieldsy on July 29, 2009, 11:59:42 pm
Keep at it. Like you I couldn't give a toss what people think. I see all those commuters up at the crack of dawn to work in an office or factory and not get home till 7-8pm in the evening and i'm loving what I'm doing. I got thrown in at the deep end after losing.........sorry walked out on my print job, and then took advice from people on here and started trad, got together all the necessary kit/tools and got my first customer for £9, that was about 7 months ago, now have just over 200......and still need more...lol, but I'm getting there. Taken it gradually and bought when I could afford. I've now transferred over to wfp in a small way (backpack)............and in the next couple of weeks hoping to go full wfp with a van mount. To me, thats a long way to come in such a short time, and proud that I've managed to do it...............no matter what others think :P

I've received excellent advice on here from the members and also from local window cleaners (you know who you are...lol) to get to where I've achieved at present.

Good Luck  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Archer on July 30, 2009, 03:23:59 pm

RL,

Just read your post - ive been cleaning windows all my life & running my own business since 1990.

If you need any advice & chat, call me on 07788 503775 chris


will help you with any of your concerns.  ;)
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: rl on July 30, 2009, 10:25:39 pm
Well thats another 12 hour shift over at work, just tomorrow to do and weekend off!

Thanks for all the advice and for the offer of a chat ARCHER. I honestly have never been on a forum where everyone is so helpful and happy!

I am lucky I guess in that I can start up whilst still having a job.

Will get some more searching through the forum done and posting questions etc, when I'm finished work tomorrow night. But off to bed now I'm knackered!

And thanks again everyone, a great bunch of guys!
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: Platinum NW on July 30, 2009, 11:25:45 pm
Im not bragging but im only 20 and have gained all my business knowledge along the way.that knowledge i gained has given me the confidence and skills to start up a construction company that has now gained good contacts which include Willmott Dixon and Interserve.The point is im nothing special so the skills you gain my put you on to greater things.I think you will do well but its you choice now to get off you arse and make your dream happen.I believe that no matter what people tell you that you will find your own way of doing things so just think of it as a journey and most importantly enjoy it!!!!!

Good luck and keep us posted on your progress
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: leapstallbuildings on July 31, 2009, 07:16:38 am
Hi again guys, I'll try not to let this sound like another new guy wanting to know if I should take up window cleaning or not, which it is! I'll just tell you about myself as you guys all seem friendly and willing to give good advice.

Basically I've been thinking of starting my own window cleaning business for the past 4 months or so, I've always wanted to work for myself, I'm 30 years old with a wife and young daughter and probably another baby within next 2 years, based in Lancashire, my wife has quite a good job that she enjoys and I have a job which pays me £8.50 an hour 40 - 45 hours a week working shifts which include some early starts 5:30am and a late finish (midnight) every other saturday night, I have every other weekend off and work the other weekend with a day off in the week too , I don't absolutely hate it, but I don't look forward to going to work, I'm sat on my backside 9 - 11 hours a day which is doing nothing for the size of my stomach!!!

So to me there are many reasons I'd like to start a window cleaning business:
1. I'll be working for myself which i've always wanted to do.
2. I won't have to work every other saturday and sunday nor work until midnight.
3. Hopefully I'll earn a similar or more wage, eventually.
4. I won't be sat on my backside for my entire working week, I'll be out and about hopefully keeping healthy.
5. I'll be doing something I enjoy.

I have a van and intend to put together a WFP system and buy the bits needed for traditional cleaning, and then start by cleaning my own/family windows to get some practice and hopefully then get an odd job or two to do on my weekday off from work and then when I have to much work, leave my job and do window cleaning full time.

However, my wife hasn't said as much, but I know she's a bit worried about me doing this full time, which I understand, after all at the moment I'm guaranteed a weekly wage after tax of £260 - £300 which we need to pay the bills, where as as a w/c nothing is guaranteed. Most posts I've read have said, do it, you won't regret it, you won't look back etc, but I have read a couple saying it is more difficult to get into w/c now and there are a lot of people doing it, which since thinking about doing it I have seen more and more vans going about doing w/c, but don't know if thats because I've been looking for them!

So, if you've made it to the end of this post (well done!) and I would appreciate your advice or anything you want to say.

Thanks in advance, your advice will be greatly appreciated!

Maybe start doing it only on the weekends (your days off??).  Hopefully your customers will be OK with you working Sundays for a few months will you are setting up.  If you play it right, before a year is done, you will earn more at the weekends than you do Mon-Fri.  That's when you can pack in the day job.  Bear in mind that you would be expected to pay tax on ALL your W/C income at first as there's only one personal allowance.  If your cashflow can cope, after a while you may even want to call the W/Cing your main work and the PAYE the extra.  That way the PAYE will go onto being taxed with no allowances.  This should ensure that you have the money for your tax bill (i.e. it will already have been stopped from your wages).
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be?
Post by: rl on August 20, 2009, 10:34:50 am

THE UPDATE

Well, a bit of an update on my story.

There was excitement in our house when there was a knock at the door, me and my 4 year old daughter rushed to the door to bring in our delivery.

My WCW backpack and 30ft X-tel pole has arrived, my first purchase to get me started, just need to get either a DI vessel or RO unit (see my other thread!). Placed my order on Wednesday Night (when the wife had gone to bed!) and was delivered as requested today at 930am, so can give window cleaning warehouse my reccomendation. Told the wife I had ordered them yesterday morning and apart from telling me to get my £350 camera on ebay to pay for it, she was quite enthusiastic, said we need to get some flyers done asap, so thats good, she seems to be getting in to the idea.

Anyway me and my daughter ripped all the packaging open (i've never seen a child so excited about something she has no idea what it was) and got the pole sorted and the backpack set up, filled the backpack with tap water and both has a quick go at cleaning a window (have now read the instructions for the backpack and it is now on charge for 24 hours as reccomended.  ::)

So when i decide if it is to be RO or DI for me and get my traditional stuff too, i'll be all set, practicing first on family's windows and then hopefully start to get a few jobs to get me started one day a week!

Will keep you all posted how it's going.

And i'd just like to say a big thank you to everyone who's given me advice over the past few weeks, without your help I'd probably still be driving round all day wondering if i should do it or not!

 :)
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: pingu on August 20, 2009, 12:55:10 pm
If you put in the graft..two years from now you'll wonder why you spent so long thinking about doing it....

Just remember this is the exciting time...building the business is just so exciting...

Good luck and never look back..

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: Platinum NW on August 20, 2009, 01:23:13 pm
If you put in the graft..two years from now you'll wonder why you spent so long thinking about doing it....

Just remember this is the exciting time...building the business is just so exciting...

Totally agree. Make sure you enjoy it and like pingu said the most fun thing in business is building the company

All The Best
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: simon knight on August 20, 2009, 02:24:49 pm

Hi rl,

I've not read through the replies so may be duplicating (sorry).

You've got a paying job (albeit boring)...stick with it!

Go w/c weekends and when you've free time and see how it goes.

Chances are you'll love it, gets loads of work, chuck your job in and never look back.

You may however hate it, get few jobs and bitterly regret chucking in your "boring" salaried job.

Suck it and see but don't burn your bridges mate....and your missus is right to be worried!
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: TonyD on August 20, 2009, 02:39:36 pm
Good luck with the plans.
I've read through all the replies, and every one is good advice, as you said a great bunch on here.
I went self employed many years ago, and now on my third business, as the economy ruined the others (being luxury services) so my advice is go for it, once you go self employed you'll wonder why you never did it before.
Earning your own income, and the excitement of building a business gives you a drive and self confidence that you never had before.  If anyone asks, you own a window cleaning business, be proud of it, nothing wrong with cleaning windows, but be prepared for the ones that look down on you, just build a thick skin...

You'll also change your mindset like most entrepreneurs do, because you're constantly thinking about business you'll notice other opportunities and the like.   

Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: Murdie window cleaning on August 20, 2009, 02:52:50 pm
All sounds much like me, I'm looking to start up as a w/c but I only get one day off during the week, but I will get myself out and give it a go part time to start with and all being well ditch my job which I absolutily detest.

I'm even considering quoting my 60 hour per week job, taking a part time job(just to have an income) and give it a proper go getting out and getting established. I firmly believe that if you are determined at making a career out of window cleaning you will.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: simon knight on August 20, 2009, 02:54:18 pm
Sparrowteeth is absolutely right in all he says except for the  "...on my third business, as the economy ruined the others (being luxury services)..."

Window cleaning is exactly that:  A luxury service.

This isn't the best time to chuck in a paying job for a gamble...when every day I see in my little neck of the woods pointers on every 10th car ::)

Bank the "boring" money, pay yer bills and experiment with w/c in yer spare time....and give 'er indoors a sleepless night ;)

Whatever you decide good luck guv'.
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: simon knight on August 20, 2009, 03:00:02 pm

Sorry: Penulimate paragraph should have read " and don't give 'er indoors sleepless nights".   ::)
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: rl on August 20, 2009, 03:02:19 pm
hi simon and sparrow, Thanks for the replies, I will be sticking with the full time boring job and seeing how I like w/c and see how much business I can get, when I initially thought of the idea it was just going to be a couple of days a month to get extra cash for holidays, and a change from doing over time at the day job, but having spent the past few weeks on here I am more encouraged that I'll be able to do it full time and enjoy it and hopefully make a decent living at it to, although it can be difficult sometimes on here to decipher the truth regarding potential earnings.

I'm not really bothered about telling people i run a window cleaning business, I realise some people may look down on it but there probably the types who work every hour god sends and never see their familys, I know which I'd prefer.

The only thing that has worried me slightly with the economy not doing to well is that more people may start up window cleaning, not sure if thats the case or not, thats not the reason i'm doing it, but are others and is there enough work out there and how might prices be affected?

On another note, just extended my x-tel 30 foot pole to it's maximum and when i went to move it from one window to another it made a slight cracking sound, which scared me to death!, should this happen or was I stood to far out from the building and therefore it was 'bending' too much??

thanks again guys
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: TonyD on August 20, 2009, 04:53:04 pm
Sparrowteeth is absolutely right in all he says except for the  "...on my third business, as the economy ruined the others (being luxury services)..."

Window cleaning is exactly that:  A luxury service.

This isn't the best time to chuck in a paying job for a gamble...when every day I see in my little neck of the woods pointers on every 10th car ::)

Bank the "boring" money, pay yer bills and experiment with w/c in yer spare time....and give 'er indoors a sleepless night ;)

Whatever you decide good luck guv'.

My last business REALLY was luxury, I was a professional detailer for many years and it did me well till the economy nose dived in January, and business stopped dead like never before.  I used to charge £350 per day minimum detailing sports cars, and had a great reputation too, but no more of that..
Take a look here at what I did -   http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7300&highlight=

I've found it much easier to get window cleaning customers, and I'm not sure if it is a luxury for the price, especially the lower prices "up' north" where I'm based   :(  although saying that I suppose if someones really strapped for cash the window cleaner might be the first to go  :(
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: R W C on August 20, 2009, 05:09:20 pm
Some awesome work there mate, im sure youll be a great succes in this job, ill have to get you to come and do my Range rover and Ferrari  ;D
Title: Re: The wife's a bit worried, should she be? **UPDATE **
Post by: TonyD on August 20, 2009, 05:12:04 pm
Some awesome work there mate, im sure youll be a great succes in this job, ill have to get you to come and do my Range rover and Ferrari  ;D

Ta, at least I've got an eye for detail lol ;D