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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: easy clean on July 21, 2009, 08:02:27 pm

Title: pure water
Post by: easy clean on July 21, 2009, 08:02:27 pm
does anydody buy/sell pure water?

any area, was just curious how much?

friend wants to start cleaning and need to get a rough idea as to what i should charge him. thanks for your help ;)
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 21, 2009, 08:03:54 pm
Go halves on your costs if hes a mate,

Dean
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: kenaltobelli on July 21, 2009, 08:08:27 pm
as much as he will pay{ greed is good greed is right its the american way}
  name the film?
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Post by: martinsadie on July 21, 2009, 08:23:14 pm
as much as he will pay{ greed is good greed is right its the american way}
  name the film?
Wall St
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: kenaltobelli on July 21, 2009, 08:41:01 pm
  correctamundo ;D
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 21, 2009, 08:44:54 pm
The cost is £2, but that does not include anything for your time and his calling round every day.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: NWH on July 21, 2009, 08:51:49 pm
If i sold it to a 1man setup i would charge him £150 a month unlimited amount.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 21, 2009, 09:23:35 pm
for £2,400 (the yearly charge you are suggesting) he could get a proper 4040 like most of us have.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 21, 2009, 09:34:24 pm
I would charge £25 per 500 litres, its a fair price.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 21, 2009, 09:41:08 pm
The cost is £2, but that does not include anything for your time and his calling round every day.

That is a superb price,

I reckon you could get alot of buyers at that rate ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: NWH on July 21, 2009, 09:46:49 pm
I would charge £25 per 500 litres, its a fair price.
That is a rip off.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 21, 2009, 09:48:01 pm
Why is it a rip off?
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 21, 2009, 09:52:08 pm
Look if he could buy it at £2 per 500ltrs he would never buy his own kit.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 21, 2009, 09:53:30 pm
Tell him to buy a ladder and go trad if he cant commit to the pole :o :o :o :o :o :o

 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 21, 2009, 09:54:12 pm
500ltrs could bring in £100-£120 so £25 isnt much to pay out, he doesnt have to buy resin, change pre filters, change membranes etc.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 21, 2009, 09:57:45 pm
RO water is 10p a litre from most aquarium shops.

I had a prob with my ro/di when I 1st started and used my local shop whilst I was waiting for a spare part to arrive.

Its not 000pm though.

Dean
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 21, 2009, 09:59:38 pm
so Dean £25 per 500ltrs isnt too bad then?
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 21, 2009, 10:01:18 pm
Not at all matt,

especially at 000pm

Dean
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 21, 2009, 10:02:41 pm
Why is it some window cleaners want something for nothing or next-to-nothing lol
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: NWH on July 21, 2009, 10:17:26 pm
500ltrs could bring in £100-£120 so £25 isnt much to pay out, he doesnt have to buy resin, change pre filters, change membranes etc.
500 ltrs of water should be earning you somewhere in the region of £300-£400.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Craig Trevain on July 21, 2009, 10:24:49 pm
We used to sell @ £8.00 per 100ltr. have stopped now was not really worth it.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 21, 2009, 10:48:33 pm
so NWH if 500ltrs brings you in that much, why would it be a rip off to buy 500ltrs of pure water for £25?
with out it you couldn't earn £300-£400.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: NWH on July 21, 2009, 10:56:53 pm
If i can earn £300-400 with my 500ltrs that should tell you that i`m in the position to be able to make my own water,to charge someone £25 for 500ltrs is a rip off if anyone is willing to pay that IMO it would be either than are in a fix short term for water or are desperate to go WFP and why would they if they had to pay £25 per 5ooltrs,how much does it cost you to produce a 1000ltrs.Nearly everyone i know or have known gives unlimited water for a set amount,if you charge say £40 a week you`ll still make on it,i don`t know anybody who sells water on a meter they`d be stupid.Anyone enquiring about selling water do you honestly think there on a meter.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: mattywig on July 21, 2009, 11:01:25 pm
I let friends get pure water for free if they need it because they are friends and it costs me next to nothing to produce!  With friends like easyclean who needs enemies!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: R W C on July 22, 2009, 08:32:45 am
If i can earn £300-400 with my 500ltrs that should tell you that i`m in the position to be able to make my own water,to charge someone £25 for 500ltrs is a rip off if anyone is willing to pay that IMO it would be either than are in a fix short term for water or are desperate to go WFP and why would they if they had to pay £25 per 5ooltrs,how much does it cost you to produce a 1000ltrs.Nearly everyone i know or have known gives unlimited water for a set amount,if you charge say £40 a week you`ll still make on it,i don`t know anybody who sells water on a meter they`d be stupid.Anyone enquiring about selling water do you honestly think there on a meter.

A certain person you know was selling it on the meter, £50 a month. But I do agree with NWH I wouldnt pay £25 for it, im not on a meter, filters cost next to nothing, I dont pay rent as my tank is in my shed, transfer pump is only on for 4 minutes and I wouldnt want to sell it because your opening yourself up to more comp in the area as it would be so easy to set up, also I wouldnt want to rely on someone to produce something that is so important to my job i.e winter time when it was freezing peoples systems I didnt miss a day but how can I rely on someone to make sure there taking the right precautions, what about when the person goes on holiday etc.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: leapstallbuildings on July 22, 2009, 08:49:20 am
Why is it a rip off?


I'm not saying that £25 per 500 litres is a rip off myself.
However, it's reasonable and logical to base the price below what the buyer could produce it for themselves if using DI only.
Assuming TDS of 200, a bag of resin would produce around 2,500 litres.  So, after laying out for two DI vessels, the water would cost him around around £75 (a 25k bag of resin) per 2,500 litres.  That's £30 per 1,000 litres.  I reckon you would need to give a saving on that to make it reasonable.
Of course, 200 TDS is only an example.  If you are in a much higher TDS area the numbers would change a lot.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 22, 2009, 10:17:27 pm
If you are going to supply water, then use it as part of your business.
you wouldn't charge your windows just cost would you.
and like a previous post, your supplying potential competition, whether or not they are friends.
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: mattywig on July 23, 2009, 12:29:34 am
Just get him to chip in towards replacement filters if he is a friend.  If he is a rival business and prepared to take work off you then don't help him at all.  If he is a real friend then he won't be in competition with you and you can both cooperate and help eachother out.

Unless you are one of these queer folk who seperates business from friendship and is prepared to shaft a friend for money in the name of business?  I tend to find people like that actually don't have a genuine friend in the world, and often substitute the word "friend" for a person they know and are quite happy to fleece?

Not the reason Im a window cleaner, Ive got loads of friends who are window cleaners all of whom get together after work on a friday in the pub and all of whom know that to charge eachother £25 for some pure water would make them a complete tool. ;D ;D
Title: Re: pure water
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on July 23, 2009, 06:56:36 am
The guy is just starting out and will be using more water till he gets the hang of it.

If hes a mate as you say, then i'd charge him mates rates till he gets his own system.

What i would do is work out my usage and ask for the cost of what it takes to produce plus a little extra for your time (or a couple of beers).

Help the guy out in his new business venture - after all what are mates for