Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company on July 16, 2009, 04:17:12 pm
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I've got to the stage where I have outgrown my litttle Pug Partner van ( a little too quickly for my liking), and now I need something with more floor space, greater payload, and a tad more power.
I've owned a 2.5 T4 before, and never had any trouble with it, and liked the size.
But them T5's are not cheap !, but look lovely vans and would be my first choice if cost was not an issue.
Is the 104bhp T5 strong enough to handle 800 odd kilos on a daily basis on country hilly roads?
So, I've looking also at the Renault Traffic & Vauxhall / Nissan equivalents. They look similar to the T5 in floorspace, Payloads are good, and engines look strong enough to handle the weight - and they are selling for a lot less then the T5's.
Not having owned a Renault before.
Are they any good?
Whats the build quality like, and are the engines reliable?
My experience of VW is that they are lovely vehicles to drive, how do the Renaults compare?
I'm prepared to pay a bit more for a van, but need something thats going to last for at least 5 years.
I did consider leasing, but I'm not sure I'd really benefit from any tax savings, so I think I opt for buying outright, and running it until it becomes uneconomical to do so.
Sorry for so many questions, but would appreciate any folks experiences and opinions. :)
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hiace , renult got to many probs gearbox and pumps,so out of the two v w
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VW - made of metal and durable stuff.
Renault - made of cheese and plastic.
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T5 great vans. The 104bhp model will easily haul 800kg around Cornwall. I have this model with a 700litre tank and it never feels under powered.
The T5's make great contract hire vehicles as they have a good resale value. There are also some good purchase deals around. A friend of mine has just bought a T28 102PS panel van - 08 plate, 17,000 miles for £10,500 (inc VAT). I regularly see 55 plate vans for £4000-5000.
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mmmmm - T5 then I think :)
I'll look a bit more into contract hire, thanks Alex
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mmmmm - T5 then I think :)
I'll look a bit more into contract hire, thanks Alex
If you change your mind and buy a Trafic, put some money aside for gearbox changes as part of the 18,000 mile services.
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My T5 T30 shifts (90mph allegedly) with a 650 tank, heater, 30ft ladder and bits and bobs in it. Very economical on fuel and no plasticky feel about it inside the cab.
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in reference to the gear box problems regarding the vivaro/traffic/primster that would depend on its age. yes they did have major problems up till 06 reg but the changed there manufacture and seem to have it all sorted now.
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VW T5 V's Renault Traffic & Vauxhall / Nissan equivalent
you do know why the T5 costs more dont you ;)
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Silly really to try and compare these 2 vans,the VW is far superior in every way except price.
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t5 all the way but dont rule out the vivaro
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VW T5
T28 102PS
189.99 + VAT per month Contract Hire - 10 in stock
Freedom Vehicle Contracts 0845 130 1870
T30 2.5TDI 130PS BULKHEAD
£700 DEPOSIT FOLLOWED BY 35 PAYMENTS OF £209.99 + VAT. Contact Rob Glover on 07798575727
Worth looking at the T28 above -1000kg payload and only £217.35 a month
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in reference to the gear box problems regarding the vivaro/traffic/primster that would depend on its age. yes they did have major problems up till 06 reg but the changed there manufacture and seem to have it all sorted now.
Quite possibly. Mine's an 03 plate and the gearbox didn't even manage 40,000. Saying it was part of the 18,000 mile service was a bit of exagerated humour but 40,000 is still too few miles.
When the time come to replace my current van, it has put me right off going the Trafic/Vivaro/Primastar route even if that problem has been sorted. I've always had my best time with vehicles when I've gone Japanese. I won't be in the market for another van for quite a while but when I am, it will be a Jap one I think.
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i have a traffic with 45k horse away at it from new and has never give me any bother!
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Just thought of another van - This is what I would be getting if I did not have a T5.
The new Hyundai H100, very smart (looks a bit like a T5-Vito cross), good spec and 5 year 100,000 warranty.
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yl get hiace cheper than hyundi. the anser is in the di bit of hi
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My 2 year old T5 was in the VW garage this morning having a new clutch fitted for £600+VAT as the old clutch was burnt out from the previous owner I bought it from. What a lovely surprise when they said "no charge as it's covered under the warranty". Good reason to have the rest of the day off. :)
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is this a van forum i must be on the wrong site.
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Hi
have you consisidered the vauxhall viviaro, the same as traffic but i think a bit more solid.
I have run them for 6 years and not any problems
john
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Hi
have you consisidered the vauxhall viviaro, the same as traffic but i think a bit more solid.
I have run them for 6 years and not any problems
john
is that you jeremy ??
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I have had my T5, 2.5TDI for two months now and it is fantastic compared to other vans i have driven, it goes very well, i would go for this model over the 1.9 (my plumber friend has this one)when fully laden it pulls much more easily, obviously the running costs are slightly more but saying that the engine doesnt have to work as hard!
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VW T5
T28 102PS
189.99 + VAT per month Contract Hire - 10 in stock
Freedom Vehicle Contracts 0845 130 1870
T30 2.5TDI 130PS BULKHEAD
£700 DEPOSIT FOLLOWED BY 35 PAYMENTS OF £209.99 + VAT. Contact Rob Glover on 07798575727
Worth looking at the T28 above -1000kg payload and only £217.35 a month
Thanks Alex - I did find that one for £189 per month, although its a LWB which I think would be too big for me.
I thinks it has to be the T5 though.... because my liitle girl likes the big VW badge ;D
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Hi
have you consisidered the vauxhall viviaro, the same as traffic but i think a bit more solid.
I have run them for 6 years and not any problems
john
how can they be more solid ???
they are made in the same factory..same line too !!
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I have been driving Vw transporters for the last 12 years...i wont have anything else.
my current one has 120k miles on it. 130bhp
I also have a VW Crafter 163 BHP....awesome van, but drives more like a van, where as the T5 is as near to a car as you can get.
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VW T5
T28 102PS
189.99 + VAT per month Contract Hire - 10 in stock
Freedom Vehicle Contracts 0845 130 1870
T30 2.5TDI 130PS BULKHEAD
£700 DEPOSIT FOLLOWED BY 35 PAYMENTS OF £209.99 + VAT. Contact Rob Glover on 07798575727
Worth looking at the T28 above -1000kg payload and only £217.35 a month
Thanks Alex - I did find that one for £189 per month, although its a LWB which I think would be too big for me.
I thinks it has to be the T5 though.... because my liitle girl likes the big VW badge ;D
or maybe a fan of the beastie boys?
(http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44712&stc=1&d=1243255570)
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VW T5
T28 102PS
189.99 + VAT per month Contract Hire - 10 in stock
Freedom Vehicle Contracts 0845 130 1870
T30 2.5TDI 130PS BULKHEAD
£700 DEPOSIT FOLLOWED BY 35 PAYMENTS OF £209.99 + VAT. Contact Rob Glover on 07798575727
Worth looking at the T28 above -1000kg payload and only £217.35 a month
alright Alex.
is there any small print on these lease deals? do you have to pay for anything at the end of the term for damage or anything else?
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With Contract Hire it is very simple as you are basically 'renting' the vehicle for an agreed period of time. Usually you pay 3 months rent up front and then monthly afterwards. You have an agreed mileage allowance a year (10,-15,000) and anything over that is charged per mile usually about £30-50 per 1000 miles over that at the end of the agreement.
You are usually allowed to fix things (systems, ply-lining etc.) to the vehicles as long as it does not damage (nothing that a rubber bung will not fix) or will not affect re-sale. You are allowed usual wear and tear including minor scratches and scuffs, but actual damage will have to be fixed. At the end of the contract you can simply hand the vehicle back and pay nothing at all, some firms will then offer you the vehicle to purchase at a discounted price.
The great thing about CH is that the cost is treated as a 100% expense. If you take out a maintenance contract along with the vehicle then this is also 100% deductible - usually about £30 a month for all servicing/tyres/exhausts/faults/etc.
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adding the maintenance sounds good to. then basically you will pay nothing else other than the monthly figure. I'm in the process of becoming LTD so it sounds better by the minute. i may have a shop around
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the way this countrys going i mite go down to a car and trailer because we all mite end up broke on the dole or dead from the swine flu.