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Title: two men one pump ?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on July 10, 2009, 07:57:30 pm
60psi surflo one analogue vari
does it have the beans to run two reels?
one 100mtr micro one 60mtr micro
need a quick fix two man set up to clear a two and a half week backlog and get a sixteen yr old streak of p off the sofa
ideas please
oh also have a spare 100 psi flojet kicking about but no extra flow controllers
thanks ;D
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 10, 2009, 08:12:54 pm
I doubt a 60 psi pump will cope with 2 hose reels and 2 pumps. Have you tried using a backpack, you can pick them up for £100 now, plus you will have it if you need to take anyone on in the future.
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: mlscontractcleaner on July 10, 2009, 08:39:01 pm
We used to have a 60psi pump and two reels carrying 50m of 12.5mm hose. That worked perfectly but I can't imagine it would work with smaller bore hose. I'd imagine you'd need a 100psi pump; not sure that'd work with 2 small bore hoses though. ???
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: matt on July 10, 2009, 08:41:12 pm
just get 1 of them 12 quid pumps of ebay

connected it up with a bypass valve and away you go  ;)
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: tomy jackson on July 10, 2009, 09:02:05 pm
run the one on vey and by pass on other one
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on July 10, 2009, 09:15:24 pm
The 60 psi will not run 2 x 100m of microbore hose. The answer lies in your 100psi Flojet, this will very easily run 2 x 100m of microbore as this is how we have run our vehicles for years. Generally there is no need for an electronic controller either, just tune the pressure switch to match the set-up ( http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/What_pressure_delivery_pump_will_I_need_.html )
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: mr D on July 10, 2009, 10:12:27 pm
The 60 psi will not run 2 x 100m of microbore hose. The answer lies in your 100psi Flojet, this will very easily run 2 x 100m of microbore as this is how we have run our vehicles for years. Generally there is no need for an electronic controller either, just tune the pressure switch to match the set-up ( http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/What_pressure_delivery_pump_will_I_need_.html )

now ya tell me!!!!!
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: Tim82 on July 10, 2009, 10:36:07 pm
The 60 psi will not run 2 x 100m of microbore hose. The answer lies in your 100psi Flojet, this will very easily run 2 x 100m of microbore as this is how we have run our vehicles for years. Generally there is no need for an electronic controller either, just tune the pressure switch to match the set-up ( http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/What_pressure_delivery_pump_will_I_need_.html )

Well i have a 100psi flojet pump on my trolley and it struggles with two microbore lines of 50 metres... No offence Alex, but have you actually tried this yourself?
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: darragh windows on July 10, 2009, 11:34:53 pm
The 60 psi will not run 2 x 100m of microbore hose. The answer lies in your 100psi Flojet, this will very easily run 2 x 100m of microbore as this is how we have run our vehicles for years. Generally there is no need for an electronic controller either, just tune the pressure switch to match the set-up ( http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/What_pressure_delivery_pump_will_I_need_.html )




we use two 60 metre microbore reels run off one 100psi shurflow pump and have done for 18 months

Well i have a 100psi flojet pump on my trolley and it struggles with two microbore lines of 50 metres... No offence Alex, but have you actually tried this yourself?
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: chris@c.m.s on July 11, 2009, 12:18:11 am
Don't forget flow and pressure are 2 separate things and pumps differ slightly, I'd rather have a high flow rate than be able to knock a parrot of its perch from 10 yards ;D   
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 11, 2009, 12:22:13 am
They maybe different, but you cant have one without the other, thats a fact.
you need pressure to make the water flow, and its the flow (whether its a pushing or pulling force) that creates pressure.
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: chris@c.m.s on July 11, 2009, 01:00:03 am
you cant have high pressure without a suitable flow, but flow can be restricted by the bore of the supply, so I'm assuming pumps with a higher flow rate will provide better for a 2 man van ;)   
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: Alex Wingrove on July 11, 2009, 06:09:41 am
The 60 psi will not run 2 x 100m of microbore hose. The answer lies in your 100psi Flojet, this will very easily run 2 x 100m of microbore as this is how we have run our vehicles for years. Generally there is no need for an electronic controller either, just tune the pressure switch to match the set-up ( http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/What_pressure_delivery_pump_will_I_need_.html )

Well i have a 100psi flojet pump on my trolley and it struggles with two microbore lines of 50 metres... No offence Alex, but have you actually tried this yourself?

I work like this, very effective
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on July 11, 2009, 09:01:31 am
The 60 psi will not run 2 x 100m of microbore hose. The answer lies in your 100psi Flojet, this will very easily run 2 x 100m of microbore as this is how we have run our vehicles for years. Generally there is no need for an electronic controller either, just tune the pressure switch to match the set-up ( http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/What_pressure_delivery_pump_will_I_need_.html )

Well i have a 100psi flojet pump on my trolley and it struggles with two microbore lines of 50 metres... No offence Alex, but have you actually tried this yourself?

As I have highlighted above from my original comment, yes.  My van is currently set up with one 100psi Flojet and two 100 metre reels of hose.  I always work with two operatives.  I would imagine that you have a different model Flojet pump.  Whilst the pressure switch may be a 100psi, the flow rate on some of the smaller Flojet pumps may not be up to coping with my set up.
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: davids3511 on July 11, 2009, 11:43:04 am
Alex, what happens when one pole is disconnected? Does the other pole get a blast of water?
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on July 11, 2009, 11:48:28 am
No.  The flow does increase when only using one but because you are using 100 metres of microbore, it's still very usable.
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: Tim82 on July 11, 2009, 12:23:29 pm
The 60 psi will not run 2 x 100m of microbore hose. The answer lies in your 100psi Flojet, this will very easily run 2 x 100m of microbore as this is how we have run our vehicles for years. Generally there is no need for an electronic controller either, just tune the pressure switch to match the set-up ( http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/What_pressure_delivery_pump_will_I_need_.html )


Well i have a 100psi flojet pump on my trolley and it struggles with two microbore lines of 50 metres... No offence Alex, but have you actually tried this yourself?

As I have highlighted above from my original comment, yes.  My van is currently set up with one 100psi Flojet and two 100 metre reels of hose.  I always work with two operatives.  I would imagine that you have a different model Flojet pump.  Whilst the pressure switch may be a 100psi, the flow rate on some of the smaller Flojet pumps may not be up to coping with my set up.


ah right, well whatever the difference is, something isnt working properly. What about shurflo pumps?
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: geefree on July 11, 2009, 03:29:41 pm
I did this last year,

but because i also used 100 metres of micro on one reel ..... and 60 on another....the flow rates were different, the punp had to be turned up, as one had a good flow and one a weak flow of water,

so you definitely need equal amounts of hose.
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: seandyer2003 on July 11, 2009, 06:04:35 pm
I did this last year,

but because i also used 100 metres of micro on one reel ..... and 60 on another....the flow rates were different, the punp had to be turned up, as one had a good flow and one a weak flow of water,

so you definitely need equal amounts of hose.

Makes sense :)
Title: Re: two men one pump ?
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on July 11, 2009, 06:58:36 pm
run the one on vey and by pass on other one
tommy how is your by pass set up
the surflo is on my old diy trolley and sits in the van i might just dismount it and let him use that then wire the flojet up for van mount ;D best of both worlds  8)