Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Platinum NW on July 02, 2009, 11:40:38 pm
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For those of you with staff how much do you pay them per day?
Is it best to pay by the hour or by the day?
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depends how much he makes me. pay him per shift
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i would say by the day.
a days rate of x amount, and you tell him how many and which houses to do each day.
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day rate im having problems with my team leader who gets paid 18500 a year which is really good money in y area, we agreed he would start work on the first job and finish on the last but he seems to think i should do more.............i guess i need to remind him im the boss :)
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£50 per day and for that I would want him to earn me £120 minimum per day, if he is inexperienced then £80-£90
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I think the two best options are:
1. A basic wage per hour plus bonus related pay.
2. A certain % of work completed.
Andy
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a basic wage then a bonus for work completed and 100% attendance
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day rate im having problems with my team leader who gets paid 18500 a year which is really good money in y area, we agreed he would start work on the first job and finish on the last but he seems to think i should do more.............i guess i need to remind him im the boss :)
I might come work for you :)
Why does he think you need to do more lol?? Doesnt he work alone?
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Depends what they are doing too?? 12 hours of commercial, or 8 hours on domestic, do they know what they are doing and are fast ?
But i would try think of it as pay as much as you can afford, rather than as little as you can get away with, if you re gonna take on staff, theres no bigger investment in your company , so you may as well look after them , if they dont work, the business fails or stagnates at least
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kick his bum
and remind him who pays his wages if that dont work demote him and give his job to 1 of your other staff my god an employ that got the gaul to say the owner dont do enough shockin
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£50 a day for someone without work is very good!
Theres people like us who will go out there and do our own work, by our own things, have all the stress of sorting things out, then theres people who just want to go work do whatever no stress and £50 at end of day thank you very much.
Hardly treating them like s*** as you so nicely put it.
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£50 over 36 hours is about £7 a hour no were near min wage?
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To be honest,they will get fed up earning £50 per day,they will soon leave and get all the knowledge to start on their own making £150 plus a day.
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To be honest,they will get fed up earning £50 per day,they will soon leave and get all the knowledge to start on their own making £150 plus a day.
Thats the problem here - paying little enough to make you money and enough to keep them happy / interested.
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i think i would go with minimum wage + bonuses (X% of the weekly net profits, or set amount for meeting various targets).
that way when they are working they can be rewarded, but come holiday time or bad weather you have a lower commitment
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day rate im having problems with my team leader who gets paid 18500 a year which is really good money in y area, we agreed he would start work on the first job and finish on the last but he seems to think i should do more.............i guess i need to remind him im the boss :)
It always ends up with staff thinking like this to the word in fact,i don`t know what it is about this job but it seems to be the only 1 where they can`t seperate the workers from the boss.Don`t ask me why i`ve had about 3-4 like this.
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i think myself .£50 per day is not a bad wage .olso depends how good they ar .dont forget they have their money .day finished boss has stress . paper work . tax . maintaince of vans n equipment etc .mind u i would give bonus at end of week
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£50 a day for someone without work is very good!
Theres people like us who will go out there and do our own work, by our own things, have all the stress of sorting things out, then theres people who just want to go work do whatever no stress and £50 at end of day thank you very much.
Hardly treating them like s*** as you so nicely put it.
This 2009 mate.
£50 is nothing these days if thats what you're earning (when I say nothing, I mean pittance)
I earnt that 15 years ago landscaping (for someone else on the cards, and landscaping is notoriously badly paid) and 12 years ago window cleaning for someone else, whats happened to wage increases in that case mate in the last 12 years?
£50 over 36 hours is about £7 a hour no were near min wage?
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has you seem to be struggling ill explain £7 per hour over 36 hours is £252 which is almost £50 a day...now this is no where near min wage.........i can do in braile if you like
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Ronnie you are getting a sense of humour as you get older ;D
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pigeon by name pigeon by brain, a full time job is over 30 hours, so £50 a day if working 36 hours a week is around £7 per hour or should i say cluck click cluck cluck
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Now now Ronnie ;D
Hes new 'ere, just ignore em
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two glasses of wine and a day at court and this is how i end up ;D
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You been up before the beak?
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You been up before the beak?
pardon???
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before the beak = day in court
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arr. no family matter fighting for access and representing my self............bloody hard work
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arr. no family matter fighting for access and representing my self............bloody hard work
hope it worked out,i was in that position 20 years since
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When my mate works with me I pay him £100 a day, 8 till 3, hes trad and wfp, polite and trusting, and the only person id employe and when he with me full time he will be on more then this.
Chris
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arr. no family matter fighting for access and representing my self............bloody hard work
Dont wish to pry ronnie, and understand if you dont wanna reply on here, but i presume you fighting for access to your kid, in which case, why need to fight?? surely you got a right anyway ??
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When my mate works with me I pay him £100 a day, 8 till 3, hes trad and wfp, polite and trusting, and the only person id employe and when he with me full time he will be on more then this.
Chris
i hope it would turn you over a good bit then ;)
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its complicated sean has ex has made many allegations and resisted contact, welfare reports have had to be done but on friday my final hearing i was given alternate weekends but i wanted shared.
the mother just told the court what she wanted and no eveidence i proveided the court made any difference.
but she is happy to get the csa on my case all the time ::)
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Ronnie, hope you get through this ok mate.
As for paying staff, my guys get £65 a day basic AFTER tax, they also get a bonus each week if all booked work is complete. Depending on the workload that bonus can be anything from £30 to £100 each.
Overtime is paid at shared %age, that is, say we take on a £100 job that will get done after their 36hrs then I will split the money after costs, 50% - so say it costs £10 in fuel to go do this job, thats £90 split 50/50 = £45 each.
Once they have done their full week they have made me enough to warrant a bonus in some form or other. At the end of the day, if they are paid well, they will have no need or desire to start up on their own and will put the little bit extra into the work that they do. Both guys have been with us for quite a few years and I have no intention of ever letting them go, ok, so I'm not making £150 a day off each man but what use would that be if they never turned up for work, instead, I don't work them hard, I get a good reliable service from then and as a result I get a smaller return but a much more reliable return and a better working environment.
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What an encouraging post and work/employment ethic Alan.
Matt
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This thread has been on here before, however, the way we work is 100% bonus, they get a %age of whatever work they do during the week, we have daily and weekly targets and they average between £16K - £20K pa.
New starters are on £6.50/hr for the first two months, if they are then good enough they then go on %age, if not they go!
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just had a look through the records there and both guys got just over £21k each last year after tax, I would need to check with our accountant what it was before tax ( I know I should have that on our own records but I haven't - tut tut ) but I would reckon that would be somewhere in the region of £25k
Now if you are a sole trader, you will have at least £5k of expenses on top of that ( granted they are for the most part tax deductible ) but even so, you would need to turnover at least £30K to better that, now assume a 44wk working year, thats = £681/week.
Maybe I pay too much!! lol!!
BTW - thanks Matt
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just had a look through the records there and both guys got just over £21k each last year after tax, I would need to check with our accountant what it was before tax ( I know I should have that on our own records but I haven't - tut tut ) but I would reckon that would be somewhere in the region of £25k
Now if you are a sole trader, you will have at least £5k of expenses on top of that ( granted they are for the most part tax deductible ) but even so, you would need to turnover at least £30K to better that, now assume a 44wk working year, thats = £681/week.
Maybe I pay too much!! lol!!
BTW - thanks Matt
wow alan that sounds like a good system mate, where you based??
You put them lads in there own vans??
wouldnt mind chatting to you at some point as im just taking someone on part time again at minute, and really wanna make most of it ...
sean
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my system is similar to alans but not a % they have one target to meet and they mostly do it on 6 hour working days, don't bleed them dry, don't over work them and respect them and they will be loyal and work. there have been a couple along the way that haven't worked out and haven't respected the situation. they were outted instantly. i find the paranoia sometimes creeps in that something is not right but mainly its in my own head. i think my blokes have a pretty good ride.